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Jul 09 07:14:42 * Maxdamantus wonders if he can back up and restore his root filesystem before the battery runs out.
Jul 09 07:15:01 <Maxdamantus> alternatively .. how do you get it to charge in 3.14?
Jul 09 07:15:11 * Maxdamantus thinks he's done it before, but can't remember.
Jul 09 07:48:12 <Maxdamantus> Damn it. Always forget about sparse files when doing this sort of thin.
Jul 09 07:48:27 <Maxdamantus> -rw-r--r--    1 1000     1000        1.0T Apr  9  2014 /mnt/debian-armel-root/home/max/codedrive
Jul 09 07:57:01 <bencoh> Maxdamantus: maybe the charge script works
Jul 09 08:31:30 <antranigv> the testing version of CloudGPS is not working, how can I install the stable version? or should I use  the .deb file for that?
Jul 09 08:33:30 <KotCzarny> pin it or use deb
Jul 09 08:33:50 <antranigv> pin?
Jul 09 08:33:56 <KotCzarny> ~apt
Jul 09 08:33:57 <infobot> methinks apt is a stuild bot, said by Cotulla
Jul 09 08:40:53 <L29Ah> http://maemo.org/packages/view/hildon-desktop/ wtf no sources
Jul 09 08:49:37 <KotCzarny> hehe
Jul 09 08:53:35 <L29Ah> stage.maemo.org repos are dead
Jul 09 08:53:38 <L29Ah> no hildon for me?
Jul 09 08:56:49 <KotCzarny> try the hildon from hildon org?
Jul 09 08:59:16 <antranigv> L29Ah: funtoo + hildon for tablets? (:
Jul 09 08:59:59 <L29Ah> nvm found it
Jul 09 09:00:08 <L29Ah> gentoo + hildon for n900
Jul 09 09:01:03 <antranigv> L29Ah: nice (:
Jul 09 09:02:28 <L29Ah> it feels like it never ends...
Jul 09 09:02:57 <L29Ah> and my n900 will die sooner than i bring up an usable system for it
Jul 09 09:07:01 <KotCzarny> fremantle is pretty usable
Jul 09 09:07:39 <antranigv> KotCzarny: will FAM be able to choose what package to install? using the blacklist?
Jul 09 09:09:32 <KotCzarny> i stopped using fam
Jul 09 09:09:41 <KotCzarny> and use apt directly for a long time
Jul 09 09:11:35 <antranigv> KotCzarny: agree, better idea. but sometimes I think that HAM, FAM, and apt are doing different stuff...
Jul 09 09:12:52 <KotCzarny> they are mostly using apt
Jul 09 09:13:12 <KotCzarny> mostly.
Jul 09 12:59:58 <Maxdamantus> Hm. On my current service provider, I can dial `*100#` and get some weird prompt-based UI to do things like look at my balance .. what is that protocol called?
Jul 09 13:00:26 <Maxdamantus> Is it some sort of encoding over SMS?
Jul 09 13:04:02 <kerio> service codes
Jul 09 13:04:46 <Maxdamantus> What indicates that it's a service code?
Jul 09 13:04:49 <kerio> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data
Jul 09 13:04:52 <Maxdamantus> The * and the #?
Jul 09 13:04:54 <kerio> whoops
Jul 09 13:04:58 <kerio> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data
Jul 09 13:05:23 <Maxdamantus> It looks like the UI that pops up can be done whenever the provider wants.
Jul 09 13:06:11 <Maxdamantus> so presumably dialing *100# just sends some message, and the provider just happens to send some independent (as in, not formally a response) message to ask me more stuff.
Jul 09 13:06:55 <Maxdamantus> Yeah, okay.
Jul 09 13:19:10 <DocScrutinizer05> Maxdamantus: ((what is that protocol called?)) USSD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data
Jul 09 13:19:28 <DocScrutinizer05> duh, kerio beat me
Jul 09 13:20:40 <DocScrutinizer05> the "UI" is just a display showing response to USSD command
Jul 09 13:21:49 <DocScrutinizer05> and yes, the response is not realy linked to the command you sent, afaik
Jul 09 13:24:57 <DocScrutinizer05> I didn't bother yet to find out if USSD are a different message/telegram type over the air, but on modem interface level you have both dedicated AT commands to send USSD as well as generic ATD (dial) command that does exactly same when you send command ATD*100#;<enter>
Jul 09 13:25:12 <jon_y> hi guys, is cssu thumb still maintained?
Jul 09 13:25:28 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd think yes
Jul 09 13:25:34 <jon_y> hmm ok
Jul 09 13:30:34 <bencoh> it might be lagging behind -testing for some packages iirc
Jul 09 13:32:03 <kerio> nice, support for OpenSSL versions 1.0.0 and 0.9.8 will cease on 31st December 2015
Jul 09 13:50:36 <bencoh> :(
Jul 09 13:51:03 <Wizzup> kerio: No surprise
Jul 09 13:51:13 <kerio> bencoh: it's good
Jul 09 13:51:20 <kerio> we have an excuse to switch over
Jul 09 13:51:32 <bencoh> riiight.
Jul 09 13:51:43 <kerio> at least for the stuff that can be recompiled
Jul 09 14:00:07 <Wizzup> kerio: agreed!
Jul 09 18:01:25 <SAiF> hey .  wats up
Jul 09 19:16:24 <RzR> http://abbra.livejournal.com/197954.html
Jul 09 19:19:52 <bencoh> :)
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