**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 21 02:59:58 2015 Jul 21 09:23:41 Hi. I need some help. My n900 battery drains quite fast. Jul 21 09:25:16 I have read about this in forums, all there is unapplicable for me - switch to 2g network, change wifi to 10 mW, not to use im accounts ... Jul 21 09:25:41 run top press shift-p Jul 21 09:25:52 watch what is eating cpu Jul 21 09:26:29 also, do yo uhave any widgets on the homescreen? Jul 21 09:27:22 I have installed modified kernel for overclock. Using qCPUFreq, I have set 800MHz max speed, but minimum is 500. Jul 21 09:27:58 set minimum to 250 Jul 21 09:28:50 I suppose i need to reduce the minimum cpu speed, but i dont know how. 150MHz seems enough in idle. Jul 21 09:29:13 depends what did you install Jul 21 09:29:51 but usually you change values in /etc/pmconfig, no need for any app Jul 21 09:30:22 so i suggest uninstalling it and going back to default Jul 21 09:30:40 Does oc to 800 increase power consumption much. Even so, I suppose it does work 10% of the time, others 90% are at lower speeds. Jul 21 09:30:47 yes it does Jul 21 09:31:02 over 500-600 mhz you start to pay more in amps for every mhz Jul 21 09:31:08 Alphadog2: could your battery just be dead? :P Jul 21 09:32:00 Its possibe, but I doubt. I can test it and measure capacity with standart load Jul 21 09:32:37 How long does your n900s last? Jul 21 09:32:40 grab bq27200.sh script and check what is your battery last max capacity Jul 21 09:32:47 depends on use Jul 21 09:32:53 when idle its 1-2 weeks Jul 21 09:32:54 And in what condition Jul 21 09:33:01 when in use its 4-8hours Jul 21 09:33:46 4-8hours ? Jul 21 09:33:50 i mean max use Jul 21 09:33:56 like playing vids all the time Jul 21 09:34:00 or games Jul 21 09:35:23 Im far away Jul 21 09:35:36 ☺ Jul 21 09:38:14 Alphadog2: what is "modified kernel"? Jul 21 09:38:36 may I have your "uname -a" output? Jul 21 09:39:38 Enhanced linux kernel for power users Jul 21 09:40:02 Alphadog2: which version? Jul 21 09:40:49 2.6.28-10powe Jul 21 09:41:04 powe? Jul 21 09:41:38 Alphadog2: type "uname -a" in terminal and provide the output Jul 21 09:41:51 R53 #1 PREEMPT Jul 21 09:42:19 armv71 unknown at the end Jul 21 09:42:23 Alphadog2: 2.6.28-10power53? Jul 21 09:42:31 ssh into device for easier time Jul 21 09:43:04 Alphadog2: how old is the battery in the device? Jul 21 09:43:51 freemangordon_: mine is 6years old Jul 21 09:43:53 :) Jul 21 09:44:15 I boight it second hand, so i dont know. It was last week. Jul 21 09:44:21 KotCzarny: and what is the capacity? Jul 21 09:44:37 try buying a polarcell Jul 21 09:44:39 Alphadog2: then most probably your battery is dead, just buy a new one Jul 21 09:44:39 freemangordon_: last 'normal' capacity was ~1200 Jul 21 09:44:50 now bq script shows weird values Jul 21 09:44:59 Pmconfig says that min is 125 max 600 Jul 21 09:45:25 Alphadog2: uninstall that qcpufreq app Jul 21 09:45:28 KotCzarny: i really doubt 6yo battery has lost only 100 mAh of its capacity ;) Jul 21 09:45:29 I think 125 is too low Jul 21 09:45:48 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FZVSWmyx Jul 21 09:45:58 Alphadog2: actually, uninstall everything related to overclocking you may have installed Jul 21 09:46:00 (too feel comfortable ... when it wakes up to display a call for instance) Jul 21 09:46:27 Alphadog2: and reflash it / start fresh, if you haven't yet Jul 21 09:46:40 KotCzarny: no way :) Jul 21 09:46:57 freemangordon_: that's why i said bq script got weird data Jul 21 09:46:58 :) Jul 21 09:47:03 I reflashed it when i bought it Jul 21 09:47:25 I will check with bq script Jul 21 09:48:05 Alphadog2: all you need is kernel-power and Jul 21 09:48:08 kernel-power-settings Jul 21 09:48:28 or mcedit and google Jul 21 09:48:55 hmm funny, I dont have kernel-power-settings Jul 21 09:48:56 for OC that is. remove all those fancy GUI applications, most if not all of them are unmaintained and not compatible with recent kernels Jul 21 09:49:08 bencoh: do you OC? Jul 21 09:49:20 you just need to edit /etc/pmconfig for OC Jul 21 09:49:29 no, but I can change it in pmconfig (?) Jul 21 09:49:34 which kernel-power-settings most likely does Jul 21 09:49:48 (I used to run on 250->500) Jul 21 09:55:37 frickin' consumer dsl, what did i miss? Jul 21 10:12:01 KotCzarny: business DSL isn't much better Jul 21 10:12:30 luke, business dsl usually comes with static ip Jul 21 10:12:42 which in turn doesnt disconnect on regular basis Jul 21 10:12:48 not here. Jul 21 10:12:54 any other is businessish Jul 21 10:12:59 nor do dynamic IPs disconnect regularly here.. Jul 21 10:15:15 My battery just died :) Jul 21 10:16:09 So you advice me to uninstall all overclock features, and if i want OC just to edit pmconfig Jul 21 10:16:15 es Jul 21 10:16:16 yes Jul 21 10:16:24 and first try to run on stock Jul 21 10:16:29 to see if it helps Jul 21 10:16:35 without any oc Jul 21 10:16:44 And check the battery status using bq script Jul 21 10:16:49 yes Jul 21 10:16:57 Alphadog: most probably your battery needs replacement Jul 21 10:17:02 ~polarcell Jul 21 10:17:03 hmm... polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement Jul 21 10:17:16 things to look for is vdq:1 field otherwise data could be wrong Jul 21 10:17:25 (though it's wrong on my device anyway) Jul 21 10:18:18 KotCzarny: doesn't it need calibration? Jul 21 10:18:20 KotCzarny: s/vdq/ci/ Jul 21 10:18:29 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FZVSWmyx Jul 21 10:18:32 both 1 Jul 21 10:18:44 ci means calibration incomplete? Jul 21 10:18:49 invalid Jul 21 10:19:02 and vdq is important wen you're trying to calibrate it Jul 21 10:19:10 will it become valid just by a charge/discharge cycle? Jul 21 10:19:23 more or less Jul 21 10:19:32 k, we will see in a few days Jul 21 10:19:47 but you need a real discharge cycle, which means "no bme" in the last phase Jul 21 10:20:03 hmm Jul 21 10:20:34 I searched thru aliexpress, all batteries there were mentioned in comments worse than the original battery in capacity, but on product description they were all above 1500 Jul 21 10:20:48 alphadog: polarcell Jul 21 10:21:33 ebay.com has them for ~10usd/eur with shipping free Jul 21 10:22:51 With same size. I also saw a 2400 battery, it seemed true - it was twice larger than original, with additional back phone cover. Jul 21 10:23:03 yes, mugen Jul 21 10:23:09 if you has moneys go for it Jul 21 10:23:21 But price was about 80$ :) Jul 21 10:23:27 ^ Jul 21 10:23:27 and some space in your pocket Jul 21 10:24:00 polacell brand was tested and tried by many community members Jul 21 10:24:05 *polarcell Jul 21 10:24:15 just do it Jul 21 10:25:23 and pastebin bq script output Jul 21 10:26:08 Alphadog: so when was the last time you replaced the battery? Jul 21 10:26:21 he bought it used recently (device) Jul 21 10:26:33 so probably never Jul 21 10:26:36 surprised it works at all Jul 21 10:26:56 luke, nokia made good batteries Jul 21 10:26:59 built to last Jul 21 10:27:03 KotCzarny: not mine :P Jul 21 10:27:16 mine still works after 6years Jul 21 10:27:16 Its original, has the holo sticker Jul 21 10:27:31 half a year ago, it stopped even booting :/ Jul 21 10:27:51 I also have 6310i with original battery. I use it, lasts 5-6 days Jul 21 10:46:20 I actually think my battery is bad. Charging it 20 minutes, and when tried to use the phone while in charger, it turned off Jul 21 10:46:42 So this seems to be the problem Jul 21 10:46:57 that too Jul 21 11:34:39 * DocScrutinizer05 sighs Jul 21 12:07:28 i thought mugen was pretty bad Jul 21 12:07:42 like, compared to two BL-5Js Jul 21 12:22:25 price wise, yeah Jul 21 12:26:31 no, capacity wise Jul 21 12:26:39 capacity is not all Jul 21 12:26:45 2.2Ah versus almost 3 Jul 21 12:26:59 bl-5j is 1.3-1.4 Jul 21 12:27:06 mugen claims its 2.4 Jul 21 12:27:17 my 1.5 bl-5j says hi Jul 21 12:27:34 nokia sells 1.3-1.4 ones Jul 21 12:27:53 still 2.8 vs 2.4 Jul 21 12:28:20 it can be quite significant Jul 21 17:58:18 can anyone here run the following on a maemo machine and tell me what you get? pkg-config --cflags nss Jul 21 17:58:36 more generally, I'm trying to figure out whether maemo still has its own NSS config Jul 21 17:59:08 n8x0 or n900? Jul 21 17:59:26 a maemo machine ? Jul 21 17:59:46 yeah, maemo Jul 21 17:59:50 with NSS installed Jul 21 17:59:57 not to mention you dont do pkgconfig on device Jul 21 17:59:57 you likely already have it Jul 21 18:00:01 only in scratchbox Jul 21 18:00:01 ? Jul 21 18:00:04 you shouldnt have pkg-config on a maemo device, unless you installed the sdk on it Jul 21 18:00:08 okay :) Jul 21 18:00:13 [root@Nokia-N900:~]# pkg-config Jul 21 18:00:13 -sh: pkg-config: not found Jul 21 18:00:18 I have no idea about anything related to maemo Jul 21 18:00:21 can try it scratchbox though Jul 21 18:00:24 do people still use pidgin for it? Jul 21 18:00:29 bencoh: yeah, that'd be useful Jul 21 18:00:34 pidgin still works, at least Jul 21 18:00:36 basically, wherever people would build pidgin Jul 21 18:00:53 that would be in scratchbox then :) Jul 21 18:01:53 mind you, maemo libs ARE old Jul 21 18:02:01 so dont rely on anything exotic Jul 21 18:02:02 funny, pkg-config doesnt give me anything for nss or libnss Jul 21 18:02:19 bencoh, try /etc/ files directly Jul 21 18:02:27 anyway Jul 21 18:02:30 ii libnss3 20100401-1.9.2-5.2+0m5 Network Security Service Libraries - runtime Jul 21 18:03:03 same on device Jul 21 18:04:45 what about microb-engine-nss? Jul 21 18:04:48 as the package name? Jul 21 18:13:32 ptrz: oh, you're talking about mozilla-nss then Jul 21 18:14:26 > pkg-config --cflags mozilla-nss Jul 21 18:14:26 -I/usr/include/microb-engine -I/usr/include/microb-engine/nss -I/usr/include/microb-engine/nspr Jul 21 18:14:49 libnss3-dev: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/mozilla-nss.pc Jul 21 18:17:16 oh cool Jul 21 18:17:18 thanks Jul 22 00:02:57 hi Jul 22 00:03:00 people Jul 22 00:03:04 hi are you? Jul 22 00:03:32 someone connected? Jul 22 00:22:57 hola Jul 22 00:34:27 ho :) Jul 22 00:34:42 hi veikko Jul 22 00:34:48 hi are you man? Jul 22 00:35:07 a question you are development? Jul 22 00:35:40 I'm only a hacker Jul 22 00:37:00 ok **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 22 02:59:59 2015