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Jul 28 03:00:09 <Kabouik> But with the patched Vanilla, I got the above error
Jul 28 03:03:33 <DocScrutinizer05> grep -a -A15  'name = "internal";'  patched-4096home-VANILLA.bin
Jul 28 03:03:41 <DocScrutinizer05> pastebin result
Jul 28 03:04:07 <DocScrutinizer05> or compare to http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#increase_size_of_.2Fhome_-_if_you_like_that
Jul 28 03:04:12 <Kabouik> I tried again after repatching the Vanilla, will tell you after
Jul 28 03:04:47 <Kabouik> In "sed -e "s/2048/$NEW-HOME-SIZE/" path/to/*VANILLA*.bin >patched-VANILLA.bin", should I leave the $, like "$4096", or just "4096"?
Jul 28 03:05:00 <DocScrutinizer05> just 4096
Jul 28 03:05:07 <Kabouik> Alright
Jul 28 03:05:15 <Kabouik> We'll see if it works this time
Jul 28 03:06:12 <Kabouik> Seems better, don't know why exactly. Probably a typo or a corrupt file with tranfers from desktop pc to laptop over wifi
Jul 28 03:06:24 <DocScrutinizer05> don't forget to yank last line in md5sums.txt, the one you ">>"-added
Jul 28 03:06:51 <Kabouik> Yep, done it
Jul 28 03:07:00 <Kabouik> It seems to have worked this time, will boot the N900 now
Jul 28 03:07:08 <DocScrutinizer05> you shouldn't have two lines with same filename in md5sums.txt
Jul 28 03:07:17 <DocScrutinizer05> \o/
Jul 28 03:08:16 <Kabouik> Still don't know if I want cssu thumb or stable :D
Jul 28 03:08:37 <DocScrutinizer05> you want stable. you can go for thumb later
Jul 28 03:08:40 <Kabouik> thumb is supposedly faster and lighter, but unstable?
Jul 28 03:08:58 <DocScrutinizer05> it's more complicated to handle
Jul 28 03:08:58 <Kabouik> Ok, it won't require heavy work like flash and reinstall everything
Jul 28 03:09:23 <DocScrutinizer05> no, it's 'easy'
Jul 28 03:09:31 <Kabouik> And if I want kernelpower all along cssu-stable and backupmenu, no hassle?
Jul 28 03:09:42 <DocScrutinizer05> no hassle
Jul 28 03:09:49 <Kabouik> Perfect
Jul 28 03:10:14 <Luke-Jr> where is pali these days? :/
Jul 28 03:10:31 <DocScrutinizer05> temporarily offline?
Jul 28 03:10:42 <DocScrutinizer05> ~seen pali
Jul 28 03:10:43 <Kabouik> He was there earlier tonight
Jul 28 03:10:45 <infobot> pali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 5h 32m 2s ago, saying: 'from year 2011'.
Jul 28 03:10:56 <Kabouik> Heck, 5h30 ago already u_u
Jul 28 03:11:35 <DocScrutinizer05> Kabouik: please do a "df -h" on device
Jul 28 03:12:09 <Kabouik> /home/opt 3.9
Jul 28 03:12:12 <Kabouik> Sounds good
Jul 28 03:12:15 <DocScrutinizer05> \o/
Jul 28 03:12:22 <Kabouik> :]
Jul 28 03:16:54 <DocScrutinizer05> how do you like the flash-it-all.sh script?
Jul 28 03:17:05 <Kabouik> Not bad. :]
Jul 28 03:17:11 <Kabouik> And thanks a lot for your help too!
Jul 28 03:17:23 <DocScrutinizer05> yw :-)
Jul 28 03:17:27 <Kabouik> Currently adding repos, then I'll save them using your other script
Jul 28 03:17:38 <Kabouik> and do a backupmenu backup
Jul 28 03:18:07 <Kabouik> I just remember that backupmenu and kernelpower are not necessarily good friends without appropriate manipulation, so I'd better be careful with that
Jul 28 03:18:12 <DocScrutinizer05> you should safe the original state of repo list too
Jul 28 03:18:36 <Kabouik> You think so? Nokia and Nokia updates are dead anyway
Jul 28 03:18:41 <DocScrutinizer05> nah, backupmenu and KP are orthogonal
Jul 28 03:19:05 <DocScrutinizer05> yep, indeed
Jul 28 03:19:10 <Kabouik> There were some adapted kp-images if I remember well
Jul 28 03:19:15 <Kabouik> like uboot and everything
Jul 28 03:19:25 <DocScrutinizer05> not afaik
Jul 28 03:19:27 <Kabouik> or multiboot, it's very far 
Jul 28 03:19:54 <DocScrutinizer05> uBoot and kernel are entagled. backupmenu however is a mere userland app
Jul 28 03:20:18 <DocScrutinizer05> and steer clear of multiboot!
Jul 28 03:20:29 <DocScrutinizer05> it's BAD[TM]
Jul 28 03:21:15 <Kabouik> It wears out emmc, something like that, right?
Jul 28 03:21:40 <Kabouik> There was an alternate version of backupmenu too, to be compatible with both types of kp
Jul 28 03:21:47 <DocScrutinizer05> NAND, yeah. But not only that. It's screwed
Jul 28 03:22:10 <DocScrutinizer05> nope, backupmenu is unrelated to kernel
Jul 28 03:22:46 <DocScrutinizer05> except maybe for battery charging
Jul 28 03:22:52 <Kabouik> Ok so I have maemo.org, maemo-extras, Nokia muarf, Nokia updates muarf
Jul 28 03:22:55 <Kabouik> Sounds good
Jul 28 03:22:57 <DocScrutinizer05> and even then, only loosely
Jul 28 03:23:09 <Kabouik> Good then
Jul 28 03:23:44 <stryngs> DocScrutinizer05: Didn't you say, long ago, that ruining emmc would take a billion re-writes?
Jul 28 03:23:56 <DocScrutinizer05> for backupmenu you need to enable extras-devel iirc
Jul 28 03:24:23 <DocScrutinizer05> ruuining eMMC takes a lot of writes, yes
Jul 28 03:24:27 <Kabouik> Ah yeah, it was too easy
Jul 28 03:24:58 <stryngs> DocScrutinizer05: k, making sure I haven't missed something =)
Jul 28 03:25:08 <DocScrutinizer05> it still has dependencies that are not (yet?) satisfied in maemo-extras
Jul 28 03:26:05 <DocScrutinizer05> the extras-devel version can pull those dependencies from extras-devel and thus should install, I heard
Jul 28 03:26:36 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe meanwhile that info is obsolete
Jul 28 03:27:21 <Kabouik> I guess I just need to be careful with apt-get upgrade if I enable extras-devel
Jul 28 03:27:29 <Kabouik> And not install crap like speedpatch and batterypatch
Jul 28 03:27:39 <Kabouik> They might be in testing though
Jul 28 03:27:56 <DocScrutinizer05> NEVER do apt-get upgrade!
Jul 28 03:28:09 <Kabouik> Yes, I know it now :]
Jul 28 03:28:36 <DocScrutinizer05> afk again
Jul 28 03:29:18 <Kabouik> I'd even like to disable apt-get upgrade command if I could
Jul 28 03:29:30 <Kabouik> To make sure I don't do stupid things when drunk ;)
Jul 28 03:29:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ~jrtools
Jul 28 03:29:31 <infobot> jrtools is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
Jul 28 03:30:43 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, it only blocks dist-upgrade :-/
Jul 28 03:31:35 <DocScrutinizer05>  "dist-upgrade"|"autoremove")
Jul 28 03:31:36 <DocScrutinizer05>     # autoremove kills rtcom-accounts-voip-support
Jul 28 03:31:38 <DocScrutinizer05>     # see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70875
Jul 28 03:31:40 <DocScrutinizer05>     echo "NONONO!! Don't do that!"
Jul 28 03:32:55 <DocScrutinizer05> change "dist-upgrade"|"autoremove")  to   "upgrade"|"dist-upgrade"|"autoremove")
Jul 28 03:33:20 <Luke-Jr> :|
Jul 28 03:33:27 <Luke-Jr> does that affect aptitude too?
Jul 28 03:33:34 <DocScrutinizer05> actually I'm not quite sure now
Jul 28 03:35:05 <DocScrutinizer05> Luke-Jr: maemo has weird packaging, there are no proper dependencies in core packages. Everything gets installed via mp-*-pr metapackage
Jul 28 03:35:07 <Kabouik> Thanks, will do that after the backup (chose the very slow compressed option :)), or tomorrow
Jul 28 03:35:16 <Kabouik> It's 5:35 already and I work tomorrow D:
Jul 28 03:35:22 <Luke-Jr> DocScrutinizer05: so shouldn't those metapackages work?
Jul 28 03:35:37 <DocScrutinizer05> err, they work
Jul 28 03:36:22 <DocScrutinizer05> but the missing dependencies in dependencies of metapackage render a normal upgrade potentially flawed and dangerous
Jul 28 03:36:46 <Luke-Jr> so only a problem if you remove standard stuff, right?
Jul 28 03:38:31 <DocScrutinizer05> a problem when for example somebody introduces a higer version of libfoobar in maemo-extras-devel which is not working at all, yet gets upgraded when you do a general upgrade
Jul 28 03:39:23 <DocScrutinizer05> we had that with libx11dunnowhat iirc
Jul 28 03:39:44 <DocScrutinizer05> killed systems
Jul 28 03:40:16 <DocScrutinizer05> several other stuff sneaking in with less obvious flaws
Jul 28 03:42:04 <DocScrutinizer05> I think Qt libs also introduced quite some fun like that
Jul 28 03:44:42 <Kabouik> Good night folks, I'll continue tomorrow
Jul 28 03:44:50 <Kabouik> It's almost 6 and I work in 3 hours :o
Jul 28 03:45:04 <Kabouik> Thanks a ton DocScrutinizer05, for all that time you spend helping me
Jul 28 03:45:27 <Kabouik> Now work on my Neo900! :O
Jul 28 09:40:31 <Kabouik_> Folks, I'm trying to enable USB networking on my N900 to allow SSH over USB (no WiFi available all the time) using this: https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking#Automatic_configuration_with_Ubuntu_12.04
Jul 28 09:41:02 <Kabouik_> I edited /etc/network/interfaces on the N900
Jul 28 09:41:17 <Kabouik_> But can't ping it from my Mint 17 x64 computer
Jul 28 09:43:03 <KotCzarny> you dont need to edit anything
Jul 28 09:43:57 <Kabouik_> Ah
Jul 28 09:44:01 <Kabouik_> Why this Wiki guide then? :[
Jul 28 09:44:08 <KotCzarny> just laod the module and ifconfig
Jul 28 09:44:22 <KotCzarny> dont know, worked for me (slackware)
Jul 28 09:44:37 <KotCzarny> maybe people like making their life harder
Jul 28 09:44:52 <Kabouik_> On Mint's network manager, I see "Nokia N900    Not supported" instead of "Nokia N900   On|Off"
Jul 28 09:45:11 <Kabouik_> Well I did try to ping the N900 before editing but it wouldn't work
Jul 28 09:46:48 <KotCzarny> make sure ifconfigs are on the same net
Jul 28 09:48:38 <Kabouik_> I really am lost here
Jul 28 09:49:03 <KotCzarny> 1/ what are ifconfig output for n900 and pc
Jul 28 09:50:08 <Kabouik_> I have the correct address on the N900, 192.168.2.15, thanks to the edited /etc/network/interfaces
Jul 28 09:50:30 <Kabouik_> But the laptop seems to fail connecting through USB, with this "Unsupported" warning in Network manager
Jul 28 09:51:14 <Kabouik_> I apparently have no usb0 in ifconfig on the laptop
Jul 28 09:51:15 <KotCzarny> network manager sucks
Jul 28 09:51:21 <KotCzarny> modprobe g_ether ?
Jul 28 09:51:43 <Kabouik_> On laptop?
Jul 28 09:51:50 <KotCzarny> yes
Jul 28 09:51:52 <Kabouik_> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'g_ether': No such device
Jul 28 09:56:32 <Defiant> Kabouik_: can you insert n900 and do ifconfig -a
Jul 28 09:56:39 <Defiant> on your PC
Jul 28 09:57:27 <Kabouik_> http://hastebin.com/tekeriqihi.css Defiant (N900 set to PC Suite)
Jul 28 09:58:19 <KotCzarny> um, i dont set any usb mode on mine
Jul 28 09:58:33 <Kabouik_> This is not the MAC address I have on the N900 with ifconfig usb0
Jul 28 09:58:35 <KotCzarny> but n900 side works if you have ifconfig usb0
Jul 28 09:59:06 <Defiant> Kabouik_: ok what about executing "ifup usb0"
Jul 28 09:59:24 <Defiant> KotCzarny: my n900 asks me everytime if I want storage or the other thing
Jul 28 09:59:30 <Kabouik_> I think it was already done Defiant
Jul 28 09:59:41 <KotCzarny> kabouik: modprobe usbnet ?
Jul 28 09:59:41 <Defiant> Kabouik_: the interface is not up
Jul 28 10:00:19 <Kabouik_> Oh, I did not run ifup usb0 on the laptop, only N900
Jul 28 10:00:34 <Kabouik_> I can now ping the N900
Jul 28 10:00:57 <Kabouik_> So each time I want to ssh into the N900, I need ifup usb0 on both devices, and then ifdown usb0 when I'm done? Am I right?
Jul 28 10:01:04 <bencoh> most probably network manager doing stuff behind your back
Jul 28 10:01:19 <KotCzarny> well, if you edit /etc/network/interfaces it will go up properly
Jul 28 10:01:24 <Defiant> /etc/udev/rules.d/nokia-n900.rules should do the ifup for you
Jul 28 10:01:43 <KotCzarny> its the pc side that didnt go up auto 
Jul 28 10:03:07 <Kabouik_> I did create a /etc/udev/rules.d/nokia-n900.rules on the laptop with the settings in the guide (though they are for Ubuntu 12.04), but it still didn't work
Jul 28 10:03:17 <Kabouik_> I edited /etc/network/interfaces too, and restarted the service
Jul 28 10:03:40 <Kabouik_> Maybe the problem is that the N900's usb0 MAC address changes at each reboot?
Jul 28 10:04:52 <Defiant> or nm interferes..
Jul 28 10:05:25 <Kabouik_> The guide does not mention any distrib more recent than Ubuntu 12.04 so I guess some things have changed since then
Jul 28 10:06:03 <bencoh> or no-one bothered editing it
Jul 28 10:06:13 <Defiant> hmm Kabouik_ can you pastebin lsusb -v
Jul 28 10:06:17 <Kabouik_> Anyway, if will use "ifup usb0" and "ifdown usb0" each time I guess. But ssh root@192.168.2.15 finds the N900, but fails because "host key verification failed"
Jul 28 10:06:32 <Kabouik_> I have to go to lunch (coworkers are awaiting me), can I get back to you later?
Jul 28 10:06:43 <Defiant> Kabouik_: you probably once at a time had another usb0 on 192.168.2.15
Jul 28 10:07:00 <Kabouik_> Ah yes, maybe, my Jolla
Jul 28 10:07:08 <Kabouik_> Have to go, will be back here
Jul 28 10:07:54 <Sicelo> just assign an IP to that usb0 ... linux won't "remember" old non-connected cards
Jul 28 10:08:25 <Sicelo> the paste shows no IP on usb0
Jul 28 10:59:15 <Kabouik_> Inded Sicelo, but it was before I did ifup usb0 on the laptop
Jul 28 11:01:19 <Sicelo> yeah :) saw later that you got it working 
Jul 28 11:02:32 <Kabouik_> I think I will just stick to using ifup usb0/ifdown usb0 on the laptop prior to sshing my N900, will be enough
Jul 28 11:03:09 <Kabouik_> But now I need to fix this host key identification problem. My Jolla is using the same IP address and thus /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts says my N900 has a wrong key
Jul 28 11:03:28 <KotCzarny> clear the line that conflixts
Jul 28 11:03:38 <KotCzarny> and start using ssh keys with passwords
Jul 28 11:04:01 <Kabouik_> Hm, guess I'll have to read some manusl for ssh keys with passwords :o
Jul 28 11:04:31 <KotCzarny> or without passwords, if you dont car
Jul 28 11:04:32 <KotCzarny> e
Jul 28 11:04:51 <Kabouik_> But is it possible to have both Jolla and N900 using the same ip when sshing?
Jul 28 11:05:03 <bencoh> and just change the IP of either jolla or n900 :)
Jul 28 11:05:05 <KotCzarny> its just that you reused the ip while sshing earlier to different host
Jul 28 11:05:31 <KotCzarny> could be usb network script assigning the same
Jul 28 11:06:03 <Kabouik_> Will change the ip of the N900 usb0 then
Jul 28 11:58:45 <Kabouik_> DocScrutinizer05, could you tell me what I should do to have enable-catalogs.sh recognized as a command? I moved it to /bin, chmod +x, but the command is still unknwon
Jul 28 11:59:17 <KotCzarny> hash -r ?
Jul 28 12:00:20 <Kabouik_> Still "not found"
Jul 28 14:23:06 <DocScrutinizer05> check the shebang
Jul 28 14:23:30 <KotCzarny> btw. did you see the news that simple mms can remotely hack almost any android device?
Jul 28 14:24:05 <DocScrutinizer05> remotely?
Jul 28 14:24:44 <KotCzarny> yup
Jul 28 14:24:51 <KotCzarny> you dont even have to open that mms
Jul 28 14:26:35 <DocScrutinizer05> well, I guess you still need to plug it in to the device to hack
Jul 28 14:26:40 <KotCzarny> nope
Jul 28 14:26:47 <KotCzarny> all it takes is sending mms
Jul 28 14:26:53 <KotCzarny> no user action required
Jul 28 14:26:57 <DocScrutinizer05> show it to device by <2m distance?
Jul 28 14:27:10 <DocScrutinizer05> argh, MMS
Jul 28 14:27:13 <KotCzarny> nope, via gsm network
Jul 28 14:28:50 <DocScrutinizer05> that's pretty old news that SMS can be used to attack a phone
Jul 28 14:29:41 <KotCzarny> sure, but we are talking about remote control without user interactin
Jul 28 14:29:55 <KotCzarny> hole was discovered >110days ago, no patches from goog
Jul 28 14:46:50 <kerio> how do you plug a mms into a phone
Jul 28 15:03:46 <DocScrutinizer05> well, I think phones getting killed by SMS without user interaction was demonstrated around CCC2009 or somesuch
Jul 28 15:03:59 <KotCzarny> not killed
Jul 28 15:04:03 <KotCzarny> total control
Jul 28 15:04:09 <KotCzarny> zombies, etc
Jul 28 15:04:09 <DocScrutinizer05> *sigh*
Jul 28 15:18:15 <KotCzarny> and its another different hole, which is going to be little star of next blackhat conference
Jul 28 15:26:54 <merlin1991> well sms wise apple had some fun with font encoding not long ago where some sms would turn the phone off
Jul 28 15:27:42 <KotCzarny> http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/07/27/android-text-attacks/
Jul 28 15:28:11 <KotCzarny> this one has power to execute any code
Jul 28 15:29:49 <KotCzarny> and the funniest part, google made a patch, but you know how and when it gets patched? if your phone provider makes an update available to you
Jul 28 15:30:38 <merlin1991> heh gotta love that article
Jul 28 15:30:39 <merlin1991> Additional exploits could be “chained”, such as those that ”escalate privileges”, allowing wider access across the phone. Drake said those exploits “are fairly easy to come by on Android, there are quite a few that are public”.
Jul 28 15:31:01 <merlin1991> all the quotation marks around non technical terms :D
Jul 28 15:40:54 <KotCzarny> oh, well, antivir companies now have legit reason to claim 'use us or else..'
Jul 28 16:09:30 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, aiui MMS tells mobile to "please pull arbitrary content from URL $random and display it" - the only surprise I see in exploits appearing for that is: "what the heck took sooooo long?"
Jul 28 16:10:04 <DocScrutinizer05> s/arbitrary content/arbitrary HTTP content/
Jul 28 16:10:04 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: meh, aiui MMS tells mobile to "please pull arbitrary HTTP content from URL $random and display it" - the only surprise I see in exploits appearing for that is: "what the heck took sooooo long?"
Jul 28 19:35:32 <Kabouik> I have a key for Sygic maps, but can't find where to download it now that Ovi repo is dead. The only thing I find on Google is a cracked version. Isn't there a legit mirror somewhere?
Jul 28 19:50:27 <Sicelo> are there even updated maps for it available?
Jul 28 19:51:12 <Kabouik> Probably not since like 2010, but that would still do the job more than an online GPS for me
Jul 28 19:51:22 <Kabouik> (I will still install an online one but need both)
Jul 28 20:05:46 <Sicelo> there are other 'better' solutions for offline .. modrana i think
Jul 28 20:06:15 <Sicelo> i personally find Ovi good enough, and they are a litte bit newer than 2010, although no longer updated too
Jul 28 20:09:21 <Kabouik> I'm not a big fan of Modrana :(
Jul 28 20:09:34 <bencoh> you can try marble
Jul 28 20:09:39 <Kabouik> Tried already
Jul 28 20:09:54 <Kabouik> I just have a key for Sygic, I find it frustrating that I can only find cracked versions of it
Jul 28 20:09:58 <bencoh> not to your taste either ?
Jul 28 20:10:33 <Kabouik> I have not tried it heavily, I admit I only have driven with Sygic/Waze/Here until now, or Ovi sometimes
Jul 28 20:11:19 <Kabouik> Sygic was the best alternative to Here for offline GPS, in my opinion. And in fact it was the most reliable the last time I had to use my N900 for driving (Waze wouldn't work and Ovi had no offline maps)
Jul 28 20:11:21 <bencoh> sygic wasn't hostes on the nokia OVI repository
Jul 28 20:11:28 <Kabouik> True
Jul 28 20:11:29 <bencoh> did they have there own repo ?
Jul 28 20:11:37 <bencoh> their*
Jul 28 20:11:47 <Kabouik> I don't know, I bought the key with a used N900, I'm not the original buyer
Jul 28 20:11:48 <Sicelo> Ovi has always had offline maps
Jul 28 20:11:56 <Sicelo> *always*
Jul 28 20:17:31 <Kabouik> Then I don't remember why
Jul 28 20:17:39 <L29Ah> did anyone suggest navit yet?
Jul 28 20:17:54 <Kabouik> But I know that when I bought this used N900 with Sygic installed on it, I liked it
Jul 28 20:18:00 <Kabouik> Now I miss not being able to download it :/
Jul 28 20:18:19 <L29Ah> are you religiously offended by cracks?
Jul 28 20:18:41 <Kabouik> No L29Ah, not at all, but the fact that I have this key, well...
Jul 28 20:18:55 <Kabouik> But maybe the cracked version is just the original with a separate crack, I'll check that
Jul 28 20:19:19 <Sicelo> :)
Jul 28 20:19:23 <L29Ah> will you become happy when you remove your key? :3
Jul 28 20:22:22 <Kabouik> :<
Jul 28 20:23:05 <Kabouik> I'm just not thrilled by the idea of downloading a .deb file on a website full of cracks, I'm not sure of the version or even if it's really safe
Jul 28 20:24:49 <L29Ah> are you using ~repos
Jul 28 20:24:52 <L29Ah> ?
Jul 28 20:24:59 <Kabouik> Yes, muarf mirrors
Jul 28 20:25:05 <Kabouik> And extras
Jul 28 20:25:12 <L29Ah> it's unsafe and full of trojans
Jul 28 20:25:16 <L29Ah> info 100%
Jul 28 20:26:21 <Kabouik> Well, right, I know, but I am surprised that people are surprised if I prefer a legit version over a cracked one (if it still exists, that's my question) as long as I have a paid key for it!
Jul 28 20:26:35 <Kabouik> I didn't expect I would have to justify :o
Jul 28 20:29:43 <Kabouik> But I get your point L29Ah, no worries, I will probably end up downloading it where I found it
Jul 28 20:34:53 <bencoh> L29Ah: meh :D it's signed by nokia :p
Jul 28 20:36:09 <L29Ah> i didn't find a way to verify the signatures
Jul 28 20:37:01 <bencoh> I dunno whether apt verifies it then says it has expired, or if it just ignores it
Jul 28 20:37:17 <Kabouik> Nokia knows something about trojans, especially Elop. :o
Jul 28 20:37:25 <bencoh> :]
Jul 28 21:19:48 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: how about changing file a tiny bit, then you'll see if it fails check
Jul 28 21:53:19 <Kabouik> http://store.steampowered.com/app/369110/
Jul 28 21:53:21 <Kabouik> Woops
Jul 28 21:53:26 <Kabouik> Wrong chan, sorry
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