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Aug 26 05:42:29 <Vajb> what would be the correct string in browser switchboard to open link in qml-browser?
Aug 26 05:42:54 <Vajb> or some other way to make it default browser?
Aug 26 05:43:55 <Vajb> %s only brings up qml "start screen"
Aug 26 06:02:34 <KotCzarny> maybe -url your-link ?
Aug 26 06:02:44 <KotCzarny> try -h from terminal
Aug 26 06:07:44 <KotCzarny> or maybe write a little helper that would start it
Aug 26 06:08:45 <KotCzarny> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-November/001474.html
Aug 26 06:09:32 <KotCzarny> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93508
Aug 26 06:11:35 <Vajb> hmm
Aug 26 06:12:37 <KotCzarny> tmo link is to write content/links handlers inside qml browser, so it's different thing
Aug 26 06:12:52 <KotCzarny> there is further example how to open youtube links in cutetube
Aug 26 06:13:42 <KotCzarny> also, maybe qml uses dbus to listen for system links
Aug 26 06:14:29 <Vajb> ah that's where i got carried away
Aug 26 06:15:11 <Vajb> i'll dig throughly when i get back on laptop
Aug 26 06:15:22 <KotCzarny> but i guess it's useful to handle a/v content as well (using gst or mafw maybe)
Aug 26 06:16:10 <Vajb> hmm link handler would come handy when wanting to open youtube links in cutetube2
Aug 26 06:16:21 <KotCzarny> vajb, do you use oscp and can/want to test fmtx support?
Aug 26 06:16:38 <Vajb> sorry, nope
Aug 26 06:16:53 <KotCzarny> i have some old car radio which only supports station name (8 chars) and ignoring station text (32 chars)
Aug 26 06:17:36 <KotCzarny>  /opt/qml-browser/bin/qml-browser --url=%s
Aug 26 06:17:43 <KotCzarny> i think that's what you need
Aug 26 06:19:46 <Vajb> yeah! Thx!
Aug 26 07:42:55 <bencoh> KotCzarny: hm ... is there a proper way to open links in cutetube ?
Aug 26 07:43:03 <bencoh> (apart from the "monitor copy/paste thing)
Aug 26 10:30:59 <Vajb> bencoh: fennec opens default media player when i try to play youtube video on it. So maybe you can dig info from it's source.
Aug 26 10:36:20 <bencoh> the question is more about cutetube being able to handle it than the browser being able to send the event
Aug 26 10:36:23 <bencoh> but thx
Aug 26 10:45:33 <KotCzarny> bencoh, i think if the browser doesnt error-out on js, then its just a matter of passing that link to player
Aug 26 10:45:55 <KotCzarny> and i think cutetube accepts even plain youtube.com/v/ links etc
Aug 26 10:46:29 <KotCzarny> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1434222&postcount=29
Aug 26 10:46:37 <KotCzarny> this one is for qml-browser matcher
Aug 26 10:46:41 <bencoh> maybe, but the question is how to pass it to cutetube
Aug 26 10:46:56 <bencoh> ooh, great, thx :-)
Aug 26 10:47:30 <bencoh> I hope it still works with cutetube2
Aug 26 10:47:35 <KotCzarny> but it apparently calls cutetube by dbus
Aug 26 10:47:50 <KotCzarny> if one is based on the other, then it should have similar interface
Aug 26 10:48:05 <bencoh> not sure about this assumption, but I'll have to try
Aug 26 10:50:10 <KotCzarny> Name=org.marxoft.cutetube2
Aug 26 10:50:28 <KotCzarny> wonder if its the same cutetube2
Aug 26 10:52:21 <KotCzarny> hmm, there is also cutetube-qml
Aug 26 10:53:32 <KotCzarny> qmltube - YouTube and Dailymotion client with lots of features
Aug 26 10:53:57 <KotCzarny> drat, i need second n900 for testing all those apps
Aug 26 10:54:04 <sixwheeledbeast> I believe qml has not been updated in a long while. 
Aug 26 10:56:28 <Vajb> i have similiar opinion. I think qml version worked till cutetube
Aug 26 10:56:57 <Vajb> and since they both stopped working somebody came up with ct2
Aug 26 10:59:43 <KotCzarny> i think all they need is updating google parsing
Aug 26 10:59:54 <KotCzarny> rest would work the same
Aug 26 11:00:10 <KotCzarny> would be nice to have some yt-lib
Aug 26 11:21:18 <bencoh> Vajb: "somebody" is the author of both qml and cutetube :)
Aug 26 11:22:16 <bencoh> he started working on the qyoutube/qdailymotion libs before ct stopped working
Aug 26 11:33:11 <Vajb> oh well. Then it was just my feeling that they stopped working simultaneously :)
Aug 26 11:40:46 <bencoh> I think ct2 was publicly released pretty close to it
Aug 26 13:07:49 <bencoh> ~repos
Aug 26 13:07:49 <infobot> repos is probably deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./
Aug 26 13:07:56 <KotCzarny> ~maemo-repos
Aug 26 13:07:57 <infobot> rumour has it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Aug 26 13:08:32 <bencoh> yeah, trying to change ~repos, muarf.org is back online :)
Aug 26 13:08:42 <KotCzarny> repos is hardcoded
Aug 26 13:08:58 <KotCzarny> even pali (or doc, dont remember) wasnt able to change it
Aug 26 13:09:09 <bencoh> wtf :D
Aug 26 13:09:28 <KotCzarny> infobot: forget repos
Aug 26 13:09:29 <infobot> i didn't have anything called 'repos' to forget, KotCzarny
Aug 26 13:10:58 <KotCzarny> do you have ovi repo on muarf too?
Aug 26 13:11:30 <bencoh> I do but you need the nokia repository password
Aug 26 13:11:44 <KotCzarny> you may add it to that wiki page
Aug 26 13:12:25 <bencoh> yeah I'm still wondering whether I should add the complete url with user:pass or just give a hint
Aug 26 13:12:33 <Svetlana> give a hint
Aug 26 13:12:35 <KotCzarny> give a hint
Aug 26 13:12:40 <Svetlana> :)
Aug 26 13:13:20 <bencoh> the apt-mirror wiki page has the full (user:pass) link, but it points to nokia ... which is quite not the same :)
Aug 26 13:14:04 <KotCzarny> does that pass matter much?
Aug 26 13:14:45 <bencoh> every maemo/harmattan user should be able to retrieve it from a running system
Aug 26 13:14:57 <KotCzarny> but does it matter in any way?
Aug 26 13:15:02 <bencoh> and it's publicly available on the wiki
Aug 26 13:15:03 <bencoh> dunno
Aug 26 13:15:05 <KotCzarny> is it used anywhere else?
Aug 26 13:15:08 <bencoh> no
Aug 26 13:15:17 <KotCzarny> is there something special that needs pass?
Aug 26 13:15:26 <bencoh> ?
Aug 26 13:15:36 <bencoh> well, it's ovi
Aug 26 13:15:56 <KotCzarny> because if pass is the same for everyone and not personalized in any way
Aug 26 13:16:01 <bencoh> I know it all died a long time ago and all, but it's still 3rd-party software
Aug 26 13:16:48 <bencoh> infobot: repos =~ s/maemo//
Aug 26 13:16:48 <infobot> bencoh: i didn't have anything called 'repos' to modify
Aug 26 13:16:55 <bencoh> meh, alright, alright
Aug 26 13:17:08 <KotCzarny> hehe
Aug 26 13:17:14 <bencoh> who the hell hardcoded that? tim?
Aug 26 13:17:35 <KotCzarny> ~repo
Aug 26 13:17:36 <infobot> The webos-internals source code repositories are hosted at http://gitorious.org/webos-internals and http://gitorious.org/webos-applications
Aug 26 13:18:01 <bencoh> haha
Aug 26 13:18:06 <KotCzarny> i wonder if this is just random talk or used by anyone
Aug 26 13:18:33 <bencoh> this probably was used by some of the webos community :)
Aug 26 16:09:25 <DocScrutinizer05> KotCzarny: don't mess with infobot, maemo doesn't own it!
Aug 26 16:09:47 <KotCzarny> doc: still, 'repos' factoid seems hardcoded
Aug 26 16:10:28 <DocScrutinizer05> and *I* can change almost everything in infobot database
Aug 26 16:10:31 <KotCzarny> which is even more weird if you say 'maemo doesnt own it'
Aug 26 16:11:39 <DocScrutinizer05> nothing is hardcoded. Please don't mess with factoid database unless you really understand how it works
Aug 26 16:11:49 <DocScrutinizer05> ~factinfo repos
Aug 26 16:11:50 <infobot> there's no such factoid as repos, DocScrutinizer05
Aug 26 16:11:56 <DocScrutinizer05> ~factinfo #maemo repos
Aug 26 16:11:57 <infobot> #maemo repos -- created by DocScrutinizer05 <~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Sat Jul 11 20:08:56 2015 (45 days); it has been requested 18 times, last by bencoh, 3h 4m 8s ago.
Aug 26 16:12:06 <DocScrutinizer05> literal repos
Aug 26 16:12:10 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal repos
Aug 26 16:12:11 <infobot> "#maemo repos" is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
Aug 26 16:12:34 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chanset #maemo
Aug 26 16:12:34 <infobot> chan: #maemo (see _default also)
Aug 26 16:12:34 <infobot>  _time_added => 1179878166, autojoin => infobot, factoidSearch => $chan _default
Aug 26 16:13:36 <KotCzarny> what is the meaning of 'literal' and how does it relate to factoids
Aug 26 16:13:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ~repos
Aug 26 16:13:50 <infobot> repos is, like, deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./
Aug 26 16:13:56 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal repos
Aug 26 16:13:57 <infobot> "#maemo repos" is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
Aug 26 16:14:18 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+help
Aug 26 16:14:19 <infobot> I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"
Aug 26 16:14:20 <infobot> 37 topics: action, addressing, alternation, author, banadd, bandel, botmail, chanadd, chandel, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, convert, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, dfind, dice, dict, dns, do, dollar variables, dstats, factinfo, factstats, flags, forget, freshmeat
Aug 26 16:14:20 <infobot> 39 topics: google, hex, hex2ip, hostadd, hostdel, httpdtype, identify, ignore, ircstats, join, karma, kernel, kick, lart, lc, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lobotomy, lock, main, math, md5, mode, news, news add, news del, news mod, news set, news set expire, nickometer, onjoin, ord, page, part, piglatin, quote, redirection
Aug 26 16:14:20 <infobot> 33 topics: rename, reply, reverse, rot13, rssfeeds, say, scramble, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, translate, uc, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, upsidedown, uptime, useradd, userdel, verstats, wantnick, whois, wikipedia, wtf
Aug 26 16:15:01 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+help literal
Aug 26 16:15:03 <infobot> used to get a raw factoid contents. Use _default to ignore factoidSearch path.
Aug 26 16:15:03 <infobot>   Usage: literal [_default|prefix] <factoid>
Aug 26 16:15:03 <infobot> Example: literal infobot
Aug 26 16:16:14 <KotCzarny> so, it's just a debug command, still, how one would change it when "infobot: repos is ..." isn't working?
Aug 26 16:21:20 <bencoh> no infobot: #maemo repos is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
Aug 26 16:21:26 <bencoh> meh
Aug 26 16:21:38 <bencoh> no, infobot, #maemo repos is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
Aug 26 16:21:46 <bencoh> ~repos
Aug 26 16:21:47 <infobot> methinks repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./
Aug 26 16:21:57 <bencoh> didnt change a thing
Aug 26 16:22:08 <KotCzarny> try: infobot: no, ... is ...
Aug 26 16:22:08 <bencoh> (there is one more space)
Aug 26 16:22:30 <KotCzarny> it has to ack the command too
Aug 26 16:22:42 <bencoh> infobot: no, #maemo repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
Aug 26 16:22:43 <infobot> okay, bencoh
Aug 26 16:22:46 <bencoh> woooh
Aug 26 16:22:48 <bencoh> ~repos
Aug 26 16:22:49 <infobot> methinks repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
Aug 26 16:23:14 <bencoh> thx
Aug 26 16:23:50 <KotCzarny> also i think "" aren't needed
Aug 26 16:25:22 <bencoh> actually it should be multiline to be copypastable, but I'm not sure that's even possible
Aug 26 16:25:32 <KotCzarny> not on irc
Aug 26 16:26:25 <KotCzarny> that's why i made wiki page (copypastable)
Aug 26 16:27:11 <KotCzarny> which also helps users not knowledgeable with apt/app manager
Aug 26 16:42:41 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, #maemo repos is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;;
Aug 26 16:42:41 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
Aug 26 16:43:06 <KotCzarny> fail?
Aug 26 16:43:07 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, you already had it like that
Aug 26 16:43:17 <KotCzarny> you cut it in half
Aug 26 16:43:20 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, #maemo repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
Aug 26 16:43:21 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: okay
Aug 26 16:44:12 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: multiline not possible
Aug 26 16:45:02 <bencoh> mmkay
Aug 26 16:45:48 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: #maemo repos is also see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Aug 26 16:45:48 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
Aug 26 16:46:12 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal maemo-repos
Aug 26 16:46:13 <infobot> "maemo-repos" is "http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories"
Aug 26 16:46:42 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, maemo-repos is <reply>see #maemo repos
Aug 26 16:46:43 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
Aug 26 16:47:02 <DocScrutinizer05> ~maemo-repos
Aug 26 16:47:03 <infobot> i guess #maemo repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Aug 26 16:47:27 <bencoh> pfew :D
Aug 26 16:49:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listvalues downloads.maemo
Aug 26 16:49:32 <infobot> Factoid search of 'downloads.maemo' by value (1): #maemo repos.
Aug 26 16:50:02 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listkeys repo
Aug 26 16:50:04 <infobot> Factoid search of 'repo' by key (16 of 30): weathercode porto alegreporto ;; work report ;; #maemo repos ;; platform: reporting bugs ;; bug report ;; repositories ;; pureftpd repository ;; tps report ;; status report ;; maemo-repos ;; [auto-report] greycat ;; repop ;; bzsocreport ;; report elg ;; !repo ;; sharepoint.
Aug 26 16:50:39 <bencoh> wow, listvalues ... that's cool
Aug 26 16:52:10 <DocScrutinizer05> please alsways use #maemo prefix for factoids that are maemo specific
Aug 26 16:52:45 <DocScrutinizer05> e.g. maemo repostitories are. Systemd isn't
Aug 26 16:53:03 <DocScrutinizer05> ~systemd
Aug 26 16:53:04 <infobot> systemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer, Daniel Mack, Tom Gundersen, David Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel, or see https://devuan.org  http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
Aug 26 16:53:55 <DocScrutinizer05> note that #maemo prefixed factoids are not directly available in other channels. they however are available as ~#maemo <factoid key>
Aug 26 16:54:07 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+chaninfo
Aug 26 16:54:07 <infobot> 123/123 channels, 4769 users, 3650 unique: #debian/1702, #kde/438, #gsoc/321, #asterisk/215, #maemo/186, #oe/153, #wowuidev/134, #wowace/91, #cubieboard/88, #neo900/85, #utah/84, #harmattan/66, #meego/62, #wowhead/60, #asterisk-dev/57, #bzflag/53, #openmoko/52, #qi-hardware/52, #arm-netbook/50, #webos-internals/46, #openmoko-cdevel/45, #maemo-ssu/44, #elinux/40, #curseforge/37, #uphpu/29, #sc2mapster/28, #debianppc/26, #brlcad/25, #slug
Aug 26 16:57:03 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+status
Aug 26 16:57:03 <infobot> Since Tue Aug 25 05:41:59 2015, there have been 5 modifications, 28 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 16 commands.  I have been awake for 1d 11h 15m 4s this session, and currently reference 119436 factoids.  I'm using about 85424 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 211.15/3.44 child 0/0
Aug 26 17:01:22 <DocScrutinizer05> before changing a factoid, do a ~literal <factoid> and a ~factinfo <factoid> and make sure you don't kick out legit previous content
Aug 26 17:02:24 <DocScrutinizer05> general policy: as long as you're not absolutely sure you know more recent info, the factoid is right and owned by the one who created it. You shouldn't hijack factoids
Aug 26 17:16:31 <KotCzarny> ~maemo-repos
Aug 26 17:16:32 <infobot> it has been said that #maemo repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Aug 26 17:16:35 <KotCzarny> hmm
Aug 26 17:16:37 <KotCzarny> long
Aug 26 17:20:29 <KotCzarny> earlier version was more to the point
Aug 26 17:20:59 <KotCzarny> not to mention muarf is fremantle specific, where wiki is for all nits
Aug 26 17:29:52 <DocScrutinizer05> then don't call the factoid maemo-repos! :-S
Aug 26 17:30:07 <KotCzarny> um?
Aug 26 17:30:27 <KotCzarny> but #maemo repos isnt equal to maemo-repos 
Aug 26 17:31:09 <DocScrutinizer05> I yes, I cleary see the semantic difference. It's the void spaces, right?
Aug 26 17:31:17 <KotCzarny> nope
Aug 26 17:31:27 <KotCzarny> repos is vague
Aug 26 17:32:28 <DocScrutinizer05> right, and so you assigned repos=http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/  and now complain that maemo-repos which forwards to #maemo repos == repos is not fremantle specific
Aug 26 17:32:40 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry your logic eludes me
Aug 26 17:32:42 <KotCzarny> no, repos was bencohs muarf
Aug 26 17:33:41 <KotCzarny> i didnt create repos factoid
Aug 26 17:34:01 <DocScrutinizer05> but I will when you can't come up with something sensible
Aug 26 17:34:40 <KotCzarny> i come up with something sensible, which is wiki page
Aug 26 17:34:54 <DocScrutinizer05> so why you complain about factoids?
Aug 26 17:34:55 <KotCzarny> and which has enough information
Aug 26 17:35:07 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, afk
Aug 26 17:35:09 <KotCzarny> because i liked maemo-repos as a link
Aug 26 17:35:41 <KotCzarny> infobot: no, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Aug 26 17:35:42 <infobot> KotCzarny: okay
Aug 26 17:35:59 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget maemo-repos
Aug 26 17:36:00 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i forgot maemo-repos
Aug 26 17:36:10 <KotCzarny> it was my factoid
Aug 26 17:36:16 <KotCzarny> why did you change it?
Aug 26 17:36:16 <DocScrutinizer05> ~maemo-repos is foo
Aug 26 17:36:16 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
Aug 26 17:36:25 <DocScrutinizer05> ~lock maemo-repos 
Aug 26 17:36:25 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: locking factoid maemo-repos
Aug 26 17:36:45 <DocScrutinizer05> I changed it because that is a mess
Aug 26 17:36:52 <KotCzarny> it is not
Aug 26 17:37:00 <KotCzarny> maemo is not only fremantle
Aug 26 17:37:07 <KotCzarny> ~repos
Aug 26 17:37:08 <infobot> [repos] "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Aug 26 17:37:18 <KotCzarny> now, how can i check repos for diablo?
Aug 26 17:37:28 <DocScrutinizer05> how did you before?
Aug 26 17:37:34 <KotCzarny> i wasnt able
Aug 26 17:37:44 <KotCzarny> thats why i've added repos info to the wiki page
Aug 26 17:37:50 <DocScrutinizer05> so?
Aug 26 17:37:56 <KotCzarny> so it was easy to use
Aug 26 17:38:01 <DocScrutinizer05> so?
Aug 26 17:38:27 <KotCzarny> so how can i ask infobot about repos for diablo?
Aug 26 17:38:36 <DocScrutinizer05> how did you before?
Aug 26 17:38:42 <KotCzarny> with ~maemo-repos
Aug 26 17:38:50 <DocScrutinizer05> now you got ~repos
Aug 26 17:38:55 <KotCzarny> ~repos
Aug 26 17:38:56 <infobot> methinks repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Aug 26 17:40:02 <DocScrutinizer05> ~lock #maemo repos
Aug 26 17:40:03 <infobot> locking factoid #maemo repos, DocScrutinizer05
Aug 26 17:40:23 <KotCzarny> i didnt touch ~repos
Aug 26 17:40:36 <DocScrutinizer05> afk
Aug 26 17:40:36 <KotCzarny> now you've borken ability to update it
Aug 26 17:41:06 <KotCzarny> which means if at any given time muarf moves, then factoid would be greatly obsolete
Aug 26 17:41:53 <DocScrutinizer05> ~unlock #maemo repos
Aug 26 17:41:53 <infobot> unlocking factoid #maemo repos, DocScrutinizer05
Aug 26 17:43:11 <KotCzarny> still, i think ~maemo-repos was more convenient
Aug 26 17:43:26 <KotCzarny> and versatile
Aug 26 17:43:29 <DocScrutinizer05> ffs
Aug 26 17:43:42 <DocScrutinizer05> ~unlock maemo-repos
Aug 26 17:43:42 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: unlocking factoid maemo-repos
Aug 26 17:44:09 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Aug 26 17:44:10 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: okay
Aug 26 17:44:15 <KotCzarny> thank you
Aug 26 18:31:30 <Vajb> bencoh: did you get that url handler to work with cutetube2
Aug 26 18:31:55 <Vajb> qml-browser url handler i mean ^
Aug 26 18:48:05 <KotCzarny> vajb: you can use python to easily test it
Aug 26 18:49:50 <KotCzarny> or even command line
Aug 26 18:49:55 <KotCzarny> (dbus-send)
Aug 26 18:51:58 <KotCzarny> googled example: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request
Aug 26 18:51:59 <KotCzarny> com.nokia.mce.request.req_tklock_mode_change string:unlocked
Aug 26 18:53:18 <KotCzarny> erm. scratch that, you are talking about qml syntax
Aug 26 19:27:04 <DocScrutinizer05> ~phonecontrol
Aug 26 19:27:04 <infobot> well, phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control
Aug 26 19:28:49 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Open_file_in_media_player
Aug 26 20:17:48 <Vajb> yup. Im talking about qml-browser
Aug 26 20:17:52 <Vajb> i copied those lines to url handler and changed name according to your information here about cutetube2, but it doesn't work as expected. So i decided to ask if bencoh got it working :)
Aug 26 20:18:15 <KotCzarny> vajb, most likely interface name changed
Aug 26 20:18:32 <KotCzarny> (which is logical if one had both ct and ct2 for example)
Aug 26 20:20:16 <Vajb> yeah
Aug 26 20:20:30 <Vajb> i need to figure it out
Aug 26 20:20:44 <Vajb> tho im not that addicted to youtube services
Aug 26 20:20:50 <DocScrutinizer51> use dbus introspection, us mdbus2
Aug 26 20:20:55 <DocScrutinizer51> use*
Aug 26 20:21:57 <Vajb> mm so i want youtube links in qml-browser to open in ct2
Aug 26 20:22:26 <KotCzarny> first figure out the ct2 dbus interface
Aug 26 20:22:33 <DocScrutinizer51> mdbus2 has *very* convenient completion on tab, just like bash only for dbus namespace
Aug 26 20:22:47 <KotCzarny> and use python or dbus-send to control ct2
Aug 26 20:25:26 <DocScrutinizer51> don't forget to *strart* ct2 before you hit tab-tab in mdbus2
Aug 26 20:27:16 <DocScrutinizer51> honestly you don't really want to mess with dbus when you lack mickey's-dbus2
Aug 26 20:28:14 <KotCzarny> i will need to add dbus listener to oscp one day, eh
Aug 26 20:33:17 <KotCzarny> https://github.com/marxoft/cutetube2/blob/master/app/dbus/org.marxoft.cutetube2.xml
Aug 26 20:34:38 <DocScrutinizer51> sure, why use simple tools when you can also search and find and study the source ;-P
Aug 26 20:35:15 <KotCzarny> because i dont have cssu-thumb installed
Aug 26 20:35:17 <KotCzarny> :P
Aug 26 20:35:34 <KotCzarny> or cssu in that matter
Aug 26 20:35:57 <DocScrutinizer51> tou're aware that a simple dbus introspection yields basically same info?
Aug 26 20:36:26 <DocScrutinizer51> and how thumb comes in there?
Aug 26 20:36:53 <KotCzarny> i think qml was for cssu-thumb or something
Aug 26 20:37:32 <DocScrutinizer51> you seem to have a faible for assumptions
Aug 26 20:37:41 <KotCzarny> could be
Aug 26 20:38:17 <KotCzarny> i assume i should go to sleep, it's pretty late
Aug 26 20:41:37 <Vajb> wee i got qml browser to launch ct2 now
Aug 26 20:41:43 <KotCzarny> :)
Aug 26 20:41:59 <KotCzarny> dont forget to document it on tmo or wiki
Aug 26 20:42:05 <Vajb> but url is not following so i guess it needs something more than just changed dbus commands
Aug 26 20:42:38 <Vajb> i had few typos there so that's why it didn't open at first place
Aug 26 20:42:57 <Vajb> i don't have maemo or wiki account :-s
Aug 26 20:43:07 <KotCzarny> make one?
Aug 26 20:43:33 <Vajb> never thought someone would actually care what i do or tweak :-p
Aug 26 20:43:59 <KotCzarny> how do you think many of the hacks you are using came to life? :P
Aug 26 20:44:04 <Vajb> but yeah. I will, but this is not the day
Aug 26 20:44:12 <Vajb> true that hehe
Aug 26 20:56:40 <DocScrutinizer51> how about you start to assume I won't suggest stuff that's not applicable for you without special prerequisites I forgot to mention
Aug 26 21:01:28 <DocScrutinizer51> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2010/02/11/mdbus2-for-maemo5/
Aug 26 21:03:47 <KotCzarny> your assumption that vajb is here failed
Aug 26 21:04:34 <KotCzarny> anyway, sleepy time
Aug 26 21:07:11 <DocScrutinizer51> what makes you think I'm talking to anobody else but you?
Aug 26 21:10:57 <DocScrutinizer51> just out of curiousity: how old are you?
Aug 26 21:11:46 <DocScrutinizer51> if I had to guess I'd say 16<x<23
Aug 26 21:12:29 <DocScrutinizer51> you got that self confidence of youth
Aug 26 21:25:55 <Vajb> who me?
Aug 26 21:28:56 <DocScrutinizer51> nah, KotCzarny 
Aug 26 21:30:34 <DocScrutinizer51> he's very active but more often than not ignoring suggestions and so reinventing the weel
Aug 26 21:32:28 <Vajb> i guess he just wants to make stuff work by his own means
Aug 26 21:33:02 <DocScrutinizer51> yes, that's exactly the way it seems
Aug 26 21:33:54 <DocScrutinizer51> alas this generlly (not specifically limited to him) leats to a special sort of bitrotting
Aug 26 21:34:12 <DocScrutinizer51> lemme call it knowhow-rotting
Aug 26 21:34:44 <DocScrutinizer51> leads*
Aug 26 21:36:03 <DocScrutinizer51> this knowhow fade+away is a general disease in maemo since 4 years
Aug 26 21:37:30 <DocScrutinizer51> 5 years ago we even had cracks like javispedro who understood audio
Aug 26 21:39:03 <DocScrutinizer51> without those guys and gals stuff like H-E-N never whould have get finished
Aug 26 21:42:29 <Vajb> yeah. You all have been doing amazing stuff for maemo
Aug 26 22:04:34 <bencoh> Vajb: haven't tried yet
Aug 26 22:09:41 <Vajb> i have and so far i can only make it launch ct2. Not to play anything
Aug 26 22:14:11 <bencoh> I'd try and read the source at that point
Aug 26 22:18:20 <Vajb> that's what i thought also. Only problem is i don't know what im doing :D
Aug 26 22:18:39 <Vajb> but that'll be tomorrows problem
Aug 26 22:20:11 <bencoh> hm yeah :)
Aug 26 22:21:04 <bencoh> well I still need to figure how to plug two more disks in this server and keep everything running without making a cable mess and launch a pvmove ...
Aug 26 22:21:25 <bencoh> doinging this at 00:21 isn't really the best thing I could come up with ...
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