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Aug 28 03:02:08 <Svetlana> package a balloon. when attached to an app it makes it fly high up in the sky :)
Aug 28 03:07:27 <Oksanaa> I am sleepy (as in, have a cold), so will not read logs until a week later, I guess
Aug 28 04:17:09 <KotCzarny> oksanaa, ive compiled elinks with ssl and js support yesterday for fremantle, works without any hacks
Aug 28 04:17:58 <KotCzarny> so its just a matter of packaging and uploading (balloons could work)
Aug 28 04:18:46 <KotCzarny> vajb: worn flat, i should glue bit of metal in place probably
Aug 28 04:26:23 <KotCzarny> ive waited for edv1 to go 1, then fully charged, ci is now 0, shall i cycle it once more or its calibrated already?
Aug 28 04:26:54 <DocScrutinizer05> ci=0 == calibration correct
Aug 28 04:27:33 <DocScrutinizer05> though it doesn't account of adjustment limitation which is 1/8 aka 12% iirc
Aug 28 04:28:29 <KotCzarny> i didnt kill bme, so voltage was around 3200something at the start
Aug 28 04:28:58 <DocScrutinizer05> if you wanna be sure, rinse and repeat, then compare if LMD changed significantly. If it didn't change too much, it's actually properly calibrated
Aug 28 04:29:36 <KotCzarny> lmd will charge because it still is invalid from ci=1
Aug 28 04:29:51 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm?
Aug 28 04:29:57 <KotCzarny> s/charge/change/
Aug 28 04:29:58 <infobot> KotCzarny meant: lmd will change because it still is invalid from ci=1
Aug 28 04:30:31 <KotCzarny> typing from n900 is cool but typo prone
Aug 28 04:31:00 <DocScrutinizer05> where from bq27200 datasheet you got " lmd will change because it still is invalid from ci=1" ?
Aug 28 04:31:56 <KotCzarny> well, now it shows 1790 so i assume its invalid, and will show correct value after first cycle with ci=0
Aug 28 04:32:22 <DocScrutinizer05> you just said your ci=0
Aug 28 04:33:25 <DocScrutinizer05> I told you that means it completed a learning cycle and LMD supposed to be correct, unless last adjustment of LMD (during learning cycle) got limited by the "maximum 12% change" rule
Aug 28 04:33:52 <KotCzarny> could be
Aug 28 04:34:02 <KotCzarny> it was going nuts earlier
Aug 28 04:34:14 <KotCzarny> like 2800
Aug 28 04:34:15 <DocScrutinizer05> thus I suggested to redo and see if adjustment of LMD is <<12%, which means it's actually correct
Aug 28 04:34:36 <DocScrutinizer05> afk
Aug 28 04:37:04 <KotCzarny> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=T5rHV8FW
Aug 28 04:39:28 <KotCzarny> elinks can copy links on touch, nice
Aug 28 04:43:49 <KotCzarny> oksanaa, ive compiled elinks with ssl and js support yesterday for fremantle, works without any hacks
Aug 28 05:23:43 <Sicelo> what battery is that KotCzarny? but yeah, DocScrutinizer05 was correct. It clearly says in your paste "Cycle Count since Learning: 0"
Aug 28 05:31:28 <KotCzarny> sicelo: 6yo original that came with my n900
Aug 28 05:35:06 <Sicelo> then your capacity is "too" high .. meaning it will steadily go down (subject to the 6-12% limit mentioned)
Aug 28 05:39:21 <KotCzarny> thats why i got around to calibrate it
Aug 28 05:39:42 <KotCzarny> i wonder why it became invalid after all those yearsa
Aug 28 05:41:02 <Sicelo> exchanged batteries perhaps? it resets to 2056mAh when cleared
Aug 28 05:41:35 <Maxdamantus> How does it know when a battery is exchanged?
Aug 28 05:42:26 <Sicelo> DocScrutinizer05 will know. i don't. but it definitely "knows" somehow. i'll say voodoo :D
Aug 28 05:42:40 <KotCzarny> nope, i have only one bat
Aug 28 05:49:05 <zGrr> moin :)
Aug 28 05:49:13 <KotCzarny> oink
Aug 28 06:19:13 <bencoh> Oksana: hm I haven't found the time to do it yet, but yeah I'll probably port/build it eventually
Aug 28 07:14:28 <Vajb> that lock switch seems to be quite soft plastic. Because now when i look closely mine, i notice that it shows some wear on other end and is probably by nail. I don't use that "bumb" on slider, but push my nail between slider and slot to unlock
Aug 28 07:14:50 <Vajb> is probably caused*
Aug 28 07:15:51 <KotCzarny> that only works when you have nails to use
Aug 28 07:17:26 <Vajb> works if u have nail at all here
Aug 28 07:17:44 <KotCzarny> what about winter? (gloves)
Aug 28 07:18:07 <Vajb> mostly i open slide
Aug 28 07:18:23 <Vajb> use slider only to lock
Aug 28 07:19:03 <Vajb> i had to relube slides behind screen. They started to squeak
Aug 28 07:19:21 <KotCzarny> doesnt that make them catch dirt?
Aug 28 07:22:04 <Vajb> probably, but i take it rather than squeak
Aug 28 07:22:14 <KotCzarny> mine doesnt squeak (yet)
Aug 28 07:22:36 <KotCzarny> it shows some wear on the back though
Aug 28 07:22:39 <Vajb> of course i swiped all extra off
Aug 28 07:23:16 <Vajb> and i used lube witch is carefull for electronics
Aug 28 07:23:37 <Vajb> scratches behind screen?
Aug 28 07:23:59 <Vajb> i have two paintless spots there
Aug 28 07:24:01 <KotCzarny> no, where slide mechanism touches back of the screen
Aug 28 07:24:38 <Vajb> oh
Aug 28 07:25:03 <KotCzarny> we probably meant the same thing
Aug 28 07:25:04 <KotCzarny> :)
Aug 28 07:25:35 <Vajb> could be :p
Aug 28 07:26:01 <Vajb> btw last nite i was able to got that vibrate script for irssi to work!
Aug 28 07:26:20 <KotCzarny> :)
Aug 28 07:26:28 <KotCzarny> you can make it blink the led too
Aug 28 07:26:41 <KotCzarny> or sms you, or anything
Aug 28 07:26:48 <Vajb> and even managed to add feature to not vibrate if my status is away
Aug 28 07:27:29 <KotCzarny> now try that with droid
Aug 28 07:27:33 <Vajb> yes i was thinking to maybe blink led if im away
Aug 28 07:27:34 <KotCzarny> or iphone
Aug 28 07:27:51 <Vajb> rather not :)
Aug 28 07:27:59 <KotCzarny> and thats why n900 is so nice for people who like things customized
Aug 28 07:28:26 <KotCzarny> it's the firefox of the phones world
Aug 28 07:28:26 <Vajb> yup gotta love it
Aug 28 07:28:58 <KotCzarny> with the difference of software being updated and hardware quite not
Aug 28 07:29:07 <Vajb> or just true linux
Aug 28 07:29:33 <KotCzarny> almost true linux
Aug 28 07:30:15 <Vajb> exactly. Could have phrased it as "as true as it gets in hones"
Aug 28 07:30:25 <Vajb> phones*
Aug 28 07:30:32 <KotCzarny> good enough [tm]
Aug 28 07:30:53 <Vajb> yup
Aug 28 07:31:46 <KotCzarny> and even browser situation is acceptable if you dont rely on it most of the time
Aug 28 07:32:02 <KotCzarny> elinks/midori/fennec/microb
Aug 28 07:36:40 <Vajb> try qml-browser. I think im having a little crush with it hehe
Aug 28 07:37:01 <KotCzarny> might do, but as i said, i dont use browser much
Aug 28 07:37:08 <Vajb> how elinks differs from links?
Aug 28 07:37:14 <KotCzarny> and my js scripts work fine in microb
Aug 28 07:37:20 <KotCzarny> elinks supports js
Aug 28 07:37:25 <Vajb> i c
Aug 28 07:37:38 <KotCzarny> quirky, but often good enough
Aug 28 07:37:43 <Vajb> i tried links but it crashes on most of the pages i use
Aug 28 07:38:03 <KotCzarny> if you want to try just grab the binary from the oscp download page
Aug 28 07:38:12 <KotCzarny> 500kB
Aug 28 07:38:27 <Vajb> midori never used on phone and fennec is a tad slow
Aug 28 07:38:43 <Vajb> nah no thanks
Aug 28 07:39:10 <KotCzarny> fennec is slow but works good on those js packed sites
Aug 28 07:39:29 <Vajb> reason to try links was to get rid of commercials, but then i read that customs hosts file is way to go
Aug 28 07:39:41 <Vajb> custom*
Aug 28 07:39:43 <KotCzarny> midori has built in adblock
Aug 28 07:39:56 <KotCzarny> compatible with firefox's one
Aug 28 07:40:03 <KotCzarny> so you can just use the lists you want
Aug 28 07:40:31 <Vajb> but i read hosts file is still most economic
Aug 28 07:40:41 <KotCzarny> well
Aug 28 07:40:49 <KotCzarny> you need some things
Aug 28 07:40:58 <Vajb> just not that convenient to maintain
Aug 28 07:41:40 <Vajb> since i don't know much, i just form my opinios based on what i have read :)
Aug 28 07:41:40 <KotCzarny> personally i just use my own c proxy with the list of patterns i want to block personally
Aug 28 07:41:59 <KotCzarny> things like ad*.*.* or /ads/
Aug 28 07:42:27 <Vajb> any read up of that?
Aug 28 07:42:36 <KotCzarny> um?
Aug 28 07:42:57 <Vajb> things explained in web page
Aug 28 07:43:11 <Vajb> like c proxy for dummies :)
Aug 28 07:43:48 <KotCzarny> i wrote c proxy for me from scratch because i wasnt able to find ready-made tool
Aug 28 07:43:57 <KotCzarny> junkbuster/privoxy is closest
Aug 28 07:44:12 <Vajb> ah i see
Aug 28 07:44:16 <KotCzarny> but first one is unsupported and missing ftp support and privoxy is a bit heavy on configuration
Aug 28 07:44:30 <Vajb> u prefer to write everything by urself
Aug 28 07:44:52 <KotCzarny> if i dont find solution that satisfy my needs, then yes
Aug 28 07:45:09 <KotCzarny> i've used junkbuster for a long time
Aug 28 07:45:15 <KotCzarny> and was happy with it
Aug 28 07:45:17 <Vajb> well i would if i could also
Aug 28 07:45:28 <KotCzarny> grab, compile, run
Aug 28 07:45:36 <KotCzarny> it doesnt need anything special
Aug 28 07:45:43 <KotCzarny> and config is very easy
Aug 28 07:47:08 <KotCzarny> oh
Aug 28 07:47:13 <KotCzarny> privoxy is in repos
Aug 28 07:48:06 <KotCzarny> but main thing about it is being able to run it everywhere (fe. on your router (openwrt))
Aug 28 07:48:21 <KotCzarny> then all your devices can use one config without the hassle
Aug 28 07:49:12 <Vajb> sounds convenient
Aug 28 07:49:17 <Vajb> and probably is
Aug 28 07:50:54 <Vajb> oh yes, before i forgot. Since crunchbang linux is not maintained anymore. What would be ur choice for lightweight desktop distro? I have amd tb 1.3ghz with ~650mb of ram
Aug 28 07:51:13 <KotCzarny> um
Aug 28 07:51:17 <KotCzarny> there are few choices
Aug 28 07:51:22 <KotCzarny> personally i use slackware
Aug 28 07:51:24 <Vajb> lubuntu and xubuntu feel bit bloated for my taste
Aug 28 07:51:27 <KotCzarny> but arch is nice
Aug 28 07:51:36 <KotCzarny> and gentoo is nice too
Aug 28 07:51:46 <KotCzarny> mint is another choice
Aug 28 07:52:00 <Vajb> i was thinking of slackware, but does it use apt at all?
Aug 28 07:52:06 <KotCzarny> for your config just drop the gnome/kde and use fluxbox
Aug 28 07:52:32 <KotCzarny> slack didnt have package manager for a long time, now it has something similar (not apt, but package manager)
Aug 28 07:52:56 <KotCzarny> just switch to fluxbox or xfce
Aug 28 07:52:58 <Vajb> so no more building from source?
Aug 28 07:53:05 <KotCzarny> and you should be fine even on *bundu
Aug 28 07:53:07 <KotCzarny> *buntu
Aug 28 07:53:12 <Vajb> i think crunchbang uses xfce
Aug 28 07:53:37 <KotCzarny> slack never needed compiling from source, you think about gentoo
Aug 28 07:54:45 <Vajb> ah. I was just remembering things ten years past and then i heard that slackware is hardest and purest of them all hehe
Aug 28 07:56:27 <kerio> just install debian
Aug 28 07:56:27 <kerio> jeez
Aug 28 07:57:58 <kerio> also buy a ssd
Aug 28 07:58:21 <Vajb> is there ssd with ide connector...
Aug 28 08:02:07 <kerio> probably not
Aug 28 08:05:05 <KotCzarny> yes
Aug 28 08:05:16 <KotCzarny> but you are better of buying ide-msata adapter
Aug 28 08:05:22 <KotCzarny> cheaper and more options that way
Aug 28 08:05:40 <KotCzarny> for thinkpad x40 you will need 3.3V version, pc needs 5V one
Aug 28 08:06:27 <KotCzarny> do you need 2.5" or 3.5" one?
Aug 28 08:08:21 <Vajb> well to be honest i don't think that that ide connection is that much of a bottle neck :)
Aug 28 08:08:39 <Vajb> im happy with my ide disks till they last
Aug 28 08:08:44 <KotCzarny> traditional hdds are slow
Aug 28 08:08:55 <KotCzarny> and ssd are cheap nowadays
Aug 28 08:09:09 <KotCzarny> but
Aug 28 08:09:20 <KotCzarny> you can do even cheaper simply using ide--sata adapter
Aug 28 08:12:04 <KotCzarny> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-2in1-IDE-HDD-to-SATA-Hard-Drive-Serial-ATA-1-5-Gbp-Converter-ATA-100-133-FO-/261999647569?hash=item3d00655b51
Aug 28 08:12:08 <KotCzarny> 2$
Aug 28 08:12:12 <KotCzarny> free shipping
Aug 28 08:12:13 <KotCzarny> :)
Aug 28 08:13:12 <KotCzarny> and trust me, ssd hdd speeds up those old machines
Aug 28 08:14:05 <KotCzarny> and even if you upgrade your pc you can put ssd there
Aug 28 08:14:23 <Vajb> hmm my hdd might actually have ide and sata
Aug 28 08:14:58 <Vajb> and if i get 512gb card for n900 i could as well ditch whole desktop
Aug 28 08:15:17 <Vajb> it's just mostly music anyways
Aug 28 08:15:28 <KotCzarny> :>
Aug 28 08:16:04 <KotCzarny> and scratchbox?
Aug 28 08:16:19 <KotCzarny> backup?
Aug 28 08:16:25 <Vajb> nope
Aug 28 08:16:51 <Vajb> all files in sd card and that copied to memory stick
Aug 28 08:17:12 <Vajb> usb host mode works here :)
Aug 28 08:17:19 <KotCzarny> :)
Aug 28 08:17:53 <Vajb> still never used scratchbox
Aug 28 08:18:06 <Vajb> nor did i ever try to program anything
Aug 28 08:18:29 <Vajb> been planning to, just didn't get there yet
Aug 28 08:18:36 <Vajb> im lazy :)
Aug 28 08:18:41 <KotCzarny> scratchbox is useful for compiling linux apps
Aug 28 08:59:28 * Maxdamantus wants to someday see if he can daisychain SD cards.
Aug 28 08:59:48 <Maxdamantus> supposedly it is possible, but noone seems to actually do it.
Aug 28 08:59:59 <KotCzarny> no physical space available?
Aug 28 09:00:13 <Humpelst1lzchen> Maxdamantus: spi mode?
Aug 28 09:00:26 <KotCzarny> and does it require controller support or just connecting them in some way?
Aug 28 09:00:33 <Maxdamantus> Can't remember what SPI mode is.
Aug 28 09:00:45 <Maxdamantus> it shouldn't require an extra controller.
Aug 28 09:00:45 <KotCzarny> spi mode is the basic (slowest) 1 bit mode i think
Aug 28 09:01:34 <Maxdamantus> I think the speed would still be greater than the N900 can handle anyway.
Aug 28 09:02:48 <Humpelst1lzchen> SD cards usually come with two busses, the slow spi mode most microcontroller can do and the proprietary SD bus modes
Aug 28 09:03:11 <Maxdamantus> No, I mean using actual SD operation.
Aug 28 09:03:31 <Maxdamantus> SD devices have addresses that they seem to be able to use in a network.
Aug 28 09:04:02 <Maxdamantus> so if the destination address doesn't match the device, it forwards the message on to the next one.
Aug 28 09:04:24 <DocScrutinizer05> Sicelo: 40(?) full charge-discharge cycles and CI=1
Aug 28 09:09:45 <KotCzarny> which param is the cycle count?
Aug 28 09:35:40 <Vajb> from full to empty is one cycle
Aug 28 09:36:09 <Vajb> from full to half to full is half cycle
Aug 28 09:36:26 <Vajb> if i understood correctly what i read :)
Aug 28 16:00:14 <KotCzarny> ~autobuilder
Aug 28 16:00:19 <KotCzarny> ~builder
Aug 28 16:00:21 <KotCzarny> hrm
Aug 28 16:01:36 <bencoh> ~listvalues builder
Aug 28 16:01:38 <infobot> Factoid search of 'builder' by value (22 of 31): borland ;; bottem ;; builder xcessory pro for linux ;; classytcl ;; csb ;; ctbld ;; dennis ;; doc welder ;; ebuilder ;; epingle ;; foxpilot ;; freebuilder ;; jtb ;; kgui ;; korfe ;; lispworks ;; mason ;; pbuilder ;; port 888 ;; python builder ;; rpm builder ;; sci.
Aug 28 16:01:54 <KotCzarny> ~dennis
Aug 28 16:01:55 <infobot> Automated DNS builder. URL: http://www.carumba.com/code/dennis/
Aug 28 16:02:19 <KotCzarny> ~listvalues autobuilder
Aug 28 16:02:21 <infobot> Factoid search of 'autobuilder' by value returned no results.
Aug 28 16:02:52 <bencoh> ~listvalues caldron
Aug 28 16:02:53 <infobot> Factoid search of 'caldron' by value returned no results.
Aug 28 16:13:57 <KotCzarny> ~literal #maemo autobuilder
Aug 28 16:14:22 <KotCzarny> infobot: #maemo autobuilder is https://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel#Autobuilder_special_considerations
Aug 28 16:14:22 <infobot> KotCzarny: okay
Aug 28 16:14:27 <KotCzarny> ~autobuilder
Aug 28 16:14:28 <infobot> somebody said autobuilder was https://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel#Autobuilder_special_considerations
Aug 28 16:14:55 <KotCzarny> anyone remembers autobuilder log page?
Aug 28 16:18:26 <bencoh> https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/ ?
Aug 28 16:18:28 <bencoh> firefox does <3
Aug 28 16:18:32 <KotCzarny> :)
Aug 28 16:18:48 <KotCzarny> i think about the one that lists recent builds and statuses
Aug 28 20:01:18 <Sicelo> 0S2008 had handwriting recognition .. could this possibly have been forward-ported to N900?
Aug 28 20:02:39 <DocScrutinizer05> could, sure. prolly wasn't though
Aug 28 20:03:15 <Sicelo> maybe closed source?
Aug 28 20:05:01 <Sicelo> by the way .. i've never seen N770-810 in RL 
Aug 28 20:05:12 <Vajb> there are some handwriting tools on repo
Aug 28 20:05:23 <Sicelo> really Vajb? let me check
Aug 28 20:05:42 <Vajb> just did apt-cache search with handwriting
Aug 28 20:05:52 <Vajb> at least chinese
Aug 28 20:28:48 <Sicelo> https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1543  . cellwriter port
Aug 28 20:35:25 <Vajb> does gnuchess-book make some difference for osso-chess?
Aug 28 20:36:12 <Vajb> like will it make game more varied or harder
Aug 28 20:36:44 <Sicelo> doubt
Aug 28 20:37:20 <Sicelo> looks like they slimmed it down a lot
Aug 28 20:37:26 <Sicelo> Vajb: are you beating the chess?
Aug 28 20:37:35 <DocScrutinizer05> hardly :-)
Aug 28 20:37:38 <Vajb> hah i wish
Aug 28 20:37:54 <DocScrutinizer05> gossip has it it's been to good for one of the Nokia bosses
Aug 28 20:38:11 <Vajb> but it just sounded better to ask if it makes it harde rather than easier ;)
Aug 28 20:38:24 <DocScrutinizer05> so he told the devels to add a few more "beginners levels"
Aug 28 20:39:28 <Vajb> i installed it again and played maybe ten games so far. Won none
Aug 28 20:39:39 <DocScrutinizer05> expected :-D
Aug 28 20:39:42 <Vajb> and i used to think im ok at chess
Aug 28 20:40:18 <Vajb> what happened of games being enjyable experience :D
Aug 28 20:40:18 <DocScrutinizer05> osso-chess is pretty strong, allegedly (no chess player here, so I can't comment)
Aug 28 20:41:03 <DocScrutinizer05> I just seem to remember there was a tale about a Nokia boss complaining just like you did ;-)
Aug 28 20:41:17 <Vajb> hmm i have old kasparov travel chess computer laying around somewhere. I could arrange a tournament between them
Aug 28 20:41:29 <DocScrutinizer05> hehe! nice idea
Aug 28 20:42:04 <DocScrutinizer05> you should report about that event in tmo, with a *lot* of screenshots
Aug 28 20:42:13 <Vajb> it has only one problem tho. If used above mid level it takes like 20min to figure move
Aug 28 20:42:31 <DocScrutinizer05> the kasparov thingie?
Aug 28 20:42:32 <Vajb> hah. Would be hottest thread of them all
Aug 28 20:42:40 <Vajb> yes kasparov
Aug 28 20:43:15 <DocScrutinizer05> we'll set up live video coverage! :-D
Aug 28 20:44:28 <Vajb> hmm maybe for launch night of neo900. "see how neo900 slays Kasparov" :D
Aug 28 20:44:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, I spammed the link almost everywhere now, so why not here. after all it's a lot about maemo OS in it: http://neo900.org/stuff/cccamp15/ccc2015talk/neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015.mkv
Aug 28 20:45:49 <DocScrutinizer05> NB this is a pre-release version that will get transcoded for lower datarate and better video and audio and some title screen at beginning
Aug 28 20:46:15 <Oksanaa> :-) osso-chess uses gnu chess engine, and yes, it's quite strong. Though, I do wonder if a chess engine exists which analyses available chess games of opponent to figure out _personal_weaknesses and use them
Aug 28 20:46:40 <DocScrutinizer05> hehe, that would be smart
Aug 28 20:46:59 <Vajb> hmm quick q about dbus led's. If i activate it by dbus it will be lit till i deactivate it by dbus?
Aug 28 20:47:19 <DocScrutinizer05> after all, unlike human opponents, a computer can't learn to change its strategy
Aug 28 20:47:40 <DocScrutinizer05> Vajb: yup
Aug 28 20:48:00 <Oksanaa> Instead of playing each game as if opponent was an unknown entity... Like, speech-to-text would ideally also use personal voice of each human, instead of catch-it-all template
Aug 28 20:48:19 <DocScrutinizer05> Vajb: or until you activate a higher prio pattern, and when you disable that other pattern, it's supposed to revert what been there
Aug 28 20:48:58 <Vajb> heh reminds me of ardberk chess on s60v2. It made always the same moves so one had just to memorize moves to win to beat it
Aug 28 20:50:36 <Vajb> hmm i have to think if it would be smarter for irssi notify
Aug 28 20:51:21 <Vajb> tho im not that urgently needed by anyone, but who not to just do it because it is possible :)
Aug 28 20:51:30 <Vajb> who=why*
Aug 28 20:51:49 <Oksanaa> What is gnuchess-book (recommended by gnuchess) and why doesn't apt-cache know what it is? Not in repos?
Aug 28 20:52:14 <Vajb> at least it contains opening moves
Aug 28 20:52:19 <Vajb> dunno what else
Aug 28 20:52:42 <Vajb> just saw that it was recommended when osso-chess-ui pulled gnuchess
Aug 28 20:53:16 <Vajb> found debian version via google, but decided to ask first if it matters
Aug 28 20:53:33 <Sicelo> gnuchess-book should contain openings and endings (for which no analysis is necessary)
Aug 28 20:53:38 <Vajb> and so farim not convinced enough to install it
Aug 28 20:53:49 <Vajb> far im*
Aug 28 20:54:27 <Sicelo> Vajb: install, haha .. shouldn't break anything. but you'll need to be a strong player to even see the difference (if there will be)
Aug 28 20:55:52 <Vajb> maybe i install it after i beat osso 10/10
Aug 28 20:56:16 <Vajb> https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnuchess-book
Aug 28 20:56:17 <Oksanaa> Okay, so how does gnuchess analysis work? Does it in any place have a book of thousand and one chess games it has learned from?
Aug 28 20:56:35 <Sicelo> don't think N900 has that
Aug 28 20:56:46 <Vajb> maybe it has some voodoo like bme
Aug 28 20:59:19 <DocScrutinizer05> Oksanaa: it uses some game strategies, like minimax etc
Aug 28 20:59:19 <Oksanaa> KotCzarny: elinks-compiled-for-diablo cannot open the link above on my N900. Can your elinks compiled-for-fremantle do that?
Aug 28 20:59:32 <DocScrutinizer05> the rest actually is "voodoo"
Aug 28 21:00:50 <DocScrutinizer05> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimax
Aug 28 21:05:17 <DocScrutinizer05> "voodoo" == heuristics
Aug 28 21:31:29 <Oksanaa> Funny: http://erikbern.com/2014/11/29/deep-learning-for-chess/
Aug 28 21:44:41 <Vajb> could this beat osso-chess :)
Aug 29 02:36:26 <nwolf900> Hi all, I'm a fresh N900 user; anyone got any idea what could have caused Hildon's orientation change to stop working? I've installed the CSSU update last night, orientation change appeared to be working after the first reboot; but I've installed a bunch of other apps and rebooted a few more times when today I noticed that it had stopped working.. maybe a particular packaged could have caused this?
Aug 29 02:36:34 <nwolf900> Hi all, I'm a fresh N900 user; anyone got any idea what could have caused Hildon's orientation change to stop working? I've installed the CSSU update last night, orientation change appeared to be working after the first reboot; but I've installed a bunch of other apps and rebooted a few more times when today I noticed that it had stopped working.. maybe a particular packaged could have caused this?
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