**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 31 02:59:59 2015 Aug 31 04:42:57 i think they are located in /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu, but that didn't help. I have 4empty gray boxes and no idea how they got there. I noticed them after i installed and uninstalled dropn900, but dunno if they are related or not. Aug 31 05:24:05 Vajb: they're in /etc somewhere in some XML file. Aug 31 05:26:22 Actually, I'm thinking of the menu when you press the power button, which is in /etc/systemui/systemui.xml Aug 31 05:30:43 some sysbar addons put icons and functions there Aug 31 05:30:51 check screen rotation applet for example Aug 31 05:30:58 or 2g/3g setter Aug 31 05:32:14 so it is different menu then. Aug 31 05:32:15 i don't have eitherä Aug 31 05:32:33 i mean in the clock-click-menu Aug 31 05:32:39 not the power button menu Aug 31 05:32:41 -ä Aug 31 05:46:22 yes me too. I was answering to maxdamantus comment. Clock click menu is where i have now 4 small gray boxes. They r empty, but clickable and give no feedback Aug 31 05:47:05 unclean applets removal? Aug 31 09:09:32 Heh, interesting comment in that code linked by Wizzup, relates to something I mentioned the other day: https://bitbucket.org/mischief/plan9front/commits/1b61f86d62e94506a938ceb3dc684189#chg-sys/src/9/rpi/READMEhttps://bitbucket.org/mischief/plan9front/commits/1b61f86d62e94506a938ceb3dc684189#chg-sys/src/9/rpi/README Aug 31 09:09:48 er, wrong link (not specific): https://bitbucket.org/mischief/plan9front/src/1b61f86d62e94506a938ceb3dc684189f31acbdf/sys/src/9/port/sdmmc.c#sdmmc.c-6 Aug 31 09:10:00 “Assumes only one card on the bus” Aug 31 09:10:07 thus implying that you can have more. Aug 31 09:50:39 maxd: i guess most companies dont bother with that sd chaining because of no way to wire additional card without another slot Aug 31 09:51:30 arm chipset usually supports 2-4 sd cards at once without daisychaining and daisychan wont get you speed improvement Aug 31 09:51:47 and even then they usually provide only 1 slot Aug 31 09:54:04 i didn't know you could daisy chain SD cards Aug 31 09:59:12 moin :) Aug 31 11:48:31 [N9] is there a way to change the mapp app from ovi-maps to something else? Aug 31 11:48:57 ah, #harmattan, sorry Aug 31 11:53:15 he meant map source i guess? Aug 31 11:53:33 I think he meant the map application Aug 31 11:53:59 but I dunno how thing are going with meego Aug 31 11:54:03 +s Aug 31 12:08:00 it seems to be kicking :) Aug 31 12:51:44 Sicelo: kicking users off the lawn? Aug 31 12:52:50 * DocScrutinizer05 guesses Nokia sold 10 times as many N9 as they sold N900, but now probably there are 10 times more N900 in active use than N9 Aug 31 12:54:38 yes Aug 31 12:56:02 I bought N9. I never really liked N9. Came back to N900 and I still use it as my primary phone. Aug 31 13:29:53 tbh, looks to me like their community is as vibrant as this one :) Aug 31 13:30:08 is it? Aug 31 13:30:21 they just don't have Pali, FMG Aug 31 13:31:00 tbh pali and fmg are the few devels that stayed with us and not moved on to harmattan Aug 31 13:31:21 yeah. mag left :( Aug 31 13:31:53 unless those guys left again, this time for android or sailfish or tizen, Harmattan should have way more devels than maemo Aug 31 13:32:38 mag and a lot of other gifted devels :´( Aug 31 13:34:01 the damn meego schism Aug 31 13:35:09 I *never* thought meego was the right move ahead, and the way some people encouraged devels to leave maemo behind and just move over to meego was pretty bad Aug 31 13:35:53 the "new device new OS" badwaggon of fools Aug 31 13:36:13 bandwaggon, but actually badwaggon also fits Aug 31 13:37:51 I guess now largest community of ex-maemo-devels are at jolla, and I heard jolla isn't really any better than maemo5 was, regarding FOSS Aug 31 13:38:26 maybe it's a tad better than harmattan was Aug 31 13:40:16 well, we got one benefit from all this: unlike with debian nobody will try to forcefeed systemd down our throats, in maemo5 ;-) Aug 31 13:41:42 go imagine they hadn't forked meego and then sailfish and just moved on perverting maemo5 to match the latest leetest crap and not keep backward compatibility :-S Aug 31 13:42:23 we had to do a devuan-alike fork of maemo5 long ago Aug 31 13:43:42 actually I seem to remember that for a very short period in time they actually planned to backport Harmattan (incl Aegis crap) to N900. I'm quite happy that this never happened Aug 31 13:48:15 (meego schism) actually collabora guys suggested to me "why do you want to fix telepathy on maemo5? why not develop that least-cost-router for meego right away?" Aug 31 13:48:44 WONTFIX--OBSOLETE-OS my ass Aug 31 13:49:09 this was ~2 years after N900 rolled out Aug 31 13:50:54 you sure n9 outsolled n900? Aug 31 13:51:08 n9 was released only in selective markets Aug 31 13:51:29 nevertheless I'm pretty sure they sold more N9 than N900 Aug 31 13:51:56 well, I'm convinced they did, I have no solid info Aug 31 13:52:28 N9 was available via regular channels, unlike N900 Aug 31 13:52:51 afaik N900 never got sold by carriers Aug 31 13:53:12 duh, in GB I think some carrier actually offered it Aug 31 13:53:26 even with SIMlock ;-P Aug 31 13:53:46 IOW subsidized Aug 31 13:53:56 it was available with contracts in italy as well Aug 31 13:54:05 iirc, optus here sold the n900 Aug 31 13:54:09 wow! never heard of that Aug 31 13:55:33 http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-n900-has-sold-well-in-excess-of-100000-handsets-gartner-figures-seriously-wrong-claims-source-2887458/ Aug 31 13:57:03 http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/01/how-many-lumia-sales-as-nokia-and-microsoft-ashamed-to-reveal-number-lets-count-and-compare-to-n9-me.html Aug 31 13:58:39 >>finding N9 sales to be between the level of 1.5 million and 2.0 million units in Q4.<< Aug 31 13:59:11 n9 sales made the 'competing' lumia sales look bad Aug 31 14:00:19 >>Wow! Nokia specifically excluded all of its richest and biggest traditional markets where it tried to sell the Lumia, and these countries achieved - lets call it the average, 1.75 million unit sales of the N9 in Q4. So the one N9 outsold both Lumia handsets by almost exactly 3 to 1. And the average price of the two Lumia handsets is far less than the price of the N9. << Aug 31 14:00:53 "I was at an Optus store in North Sydney on Thursday. The were willing to give me post-paid $29 for the N900 but with a$20 handset repayment." Aug 31 14:01:49 It seems that Jolla is working i top secrecy. bit unusual for "open" project. Aug 31 14:02:14 I wish them well, but it looks like their project is sinking. Aug 31 14:02:22 Jolla is an epic fail, perfectionating Nokia's mistakes faithfully Aug 31 14:02:57 yes. they don't bother to listen. always know better attitude. Aug 31 14:03:01 "you can get the guys out of Nokia, but you can't get Nokia out of the guys" Aug 31 14:03:19 ;-P Aug 31 14:04:18 I even doubt, I will ever get my Jolla Tablet... Aug 31 14:04:33 they lack some FOSS evangelist Aug 31 14:05:24 instead of focusing to build great open hardware, they focus on buuilding weird closed software Aug 31 14:06:04 FOSS idea never really touched their minds Aug 31 14:06:09 do you think it is possible to build open hardware these days? Aug 31 14:06:20 I'm trying to do, yes Aug 31 14:06:26 :-) Aug 31 14:06:39 it's damn hard, but possible Aug 31 14:06:45 do you mean Neo900 project? Aug 31 14:06:47 yes Aug 31 14:08:52 it will be around a 100 , right? Aug 31 14:09:13 i mean 1000 Aug 31 14:09:59 maybe, when a little bit of 'advertisiement' is ok, lemme suggest to you the great talk of Werner Almesberger, a recognized FOSS warrior: http://neo900.org/stuff/cccamp15/ccc2015talk/neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015.mkv Aug 31 14:10:45 yes, alas it's very expensive, mostly due to low number of devices we are building, and the odds with sourcing Aug 31 14:11:03 of course Aug 31 14:11:47 if we could sell just a 100k+ like Nokia did for N900, we could beat Nokia's N900 sales tag hands down :-) Aug 31 14:13:49 but then, we actually now compete to e.g. cryptophone. We're way better and half the price, though they sell theirs with own hardened OS and a quite vulnerable off-the-shelf hardware underneath Aug 31 14:14:17 zGrr: your encoding is weird Aug 31 14:14:39 kerio: what do you mean? Aug 31 14:14:55 type the euro symbol Aug 31 14:15:12 renders perfectly here Aug 31 14:15:16 oh, right. unicode? Aug 31 14:15:37 DocScrutinizer05: i'm pretty sure i have everything in strict utf8 mode, and i get a FFFD Aug 31 14:15:57 you're likely hitting the latin-1 fallback Aug 31 14:16:07 nfc what encoding this client supports. It's pretty good at all weird encodings though Aug 31 14:16:15 or -9, whatever Aug 31 14:16:36 hmm... i don't think, i involuntarily switched to EBCDIC :) Aug 31 14:16:40 xchat on maemo otoh... ;-P Aug 31 14:16:55 i have to keep xchat on maemo with latin9 Aug 31 14:17:03 it crashes a lot with utf8 :\ Aug 31 14:17:09 yeah Aug 31 14:17:22 there's still this friggin bug in gtk(?) Aug 31 14:17:27 my xchat never crashed on maemo. Aug 31 14:18:17 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/clean-N900xchat-scrollback-from-rogue-string.sh Aug 31 14:19:11 funny detail: it failed / segfaulted on startup during scrollback loading Aug 31 14:19:51 related to some gtk-font-rendering (pango?, pogo? poopsy?) Aug 31 14:23:06 alas I lack a bookmark to the relevant bug ticket Aug 31 14:23:38 the ticket however should contain my name iirc ;-) Aug 31 14:25:16 *maybe* you actually could fix it just by installing the right font Aug 31 14:58:53 * Wizzup just compiled mainline kernel for maemo Aug 31 14:58:58 going to try it soon with a gentoo stage3 \o Aug 31 14:59:02 o/ Aug 31 14:59:03 \o/ Aug 31 15:49:08 ~tabletsdev Aug 31 15:49:09 [tabletsdev] http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads Aug 31 15:51:27 slaerick: see Aug 31 15:51:30 ~flashing Aug 31 15:51:31 hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Aug 31 15:51:47 ~combined Aug 31 15:51:48 it has been said that combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Aug 31 15:52:02 ~flasher Aug 31 15:52:03 flasher is, like, at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Aug 31 15:53:28 Nice :), thanks. Im so excited because ill be receiving a n900 today, after 1.5 years of not playing with one Aug 31 16:26:19 Hello everyone! For WPS Pixie Dust attack & Reaver v1.5.2 to N900 go see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95899 I spent this day testing them out and they seem to work quite nicely Aug 31 16:28:43 wha? Aug 31 16:28:45 Hi Ras_Older Aug 31 16:28:50 Why hey thar Aug 31 16:29:00 stryngs will like that Aug 31 16:29:07 ah .. he's here ;) Aug 31 16:29:08 It caught my eye quite nicely =) Aug 31 16:29:12 I was just wondering if stryngs would be around for this :D Aug 31 16:29:13 * stryngs reads Aug 31 16:29:21 I'm always around for pentest stuff Aug 31 16:29:39 Heh, got denied on PwnPhone name from PwnieExpress =/ I guess they truly murdered the n900 from their memories Aug 31 16:29:46 Gotta come up with a new system name Aug 31 16:30:25 And it shall be .deb'd Aug 31 16:30:46 Good read Ras_Older, thank you =) Aug 31 16:31:07 ^^ long time lurker giving back to community Aug 31 16:31:25 When I .deb it up, i'll shoot you a link Aug 31 16:31:59 Ras_Older: Nice write up, clean. Aug 31 17:25:14 :) Aug 31 17:25:21 how about pentesting metapackage? Aug 31 17:39:01 That would be awesome :D Aug 31 17:39:47 good, you've just volunteered! ;) Aug 31 17:40:03 Oi oi oi I ain't got that kind of skills :'D Aug 31 17:40:36 you will get them on the go Aug 31 17:40:38 no worries Aug 31 17:41:03 as everything, grab some package and just copyreplace Aug 31 17:43:10 But seriously talking the pentesting metapackage would be really handy. Something like cleven, reaver, wash, pixiewps, aircrack-ng set and the many ones that I cannot remember right now. Aug 31 17:43:54 nmap? Aug 31 17:43:55 ;) Aug 31 17:43:59 tcpdump? Aug 31 17:44:04 ping? Aug 31 17:44:17 I could look into it but as it is I'm on sickleave from my job and don't think I would have the time on my hands for learning it all. Aug 31 17:44:24 Yep definitely Aug 31 17:44:34 you can start by preparing the list Aug 31 17:45:02 and by creating manuals/howtos Aug 31 17:45:08 maybe a script or two Aug 31 17:45:51 I'll think about it for sure but I just don't dare to make empty promises :) Aug 31 17:57:07 Ras_Older: many thanks! Aug 31 17:57:36 maemo5 alive and kicking :-D Aug 31 18:22:15 You guys are welcome to use my work Aug 31 18:22:19 It's not optified though Aug 31 18:22:25 So a lot of retooling would be required Aug 31 18:23:01 RE: HWR on N900 .. I can confirm Aug 31 18:23:37 RE: HWR on N900 .. I can confirm "him_cellwriter" works, https://garage.maemo.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=3531 Aug 31 18:23:47 just not for QT applications Aug 31 18:31:49 ok. I think i found place of status menu. It's /etc/hildon-desktop/status-menu.plugins Aug 31 18:32:52 now i just need to figure what are those gray boxes, but i have no idea. So maybe somebody wants to look at their file too see what's in it? Aug 31 18:34:11 Vajb: it's a long file .. what you're looking for? or rather paste yours :) Aug 31 18:37:59 yes im just working on paste Aug 31 18:38:59 [clock-plugin.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:00 [connui-cellular.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:00 [status-area-applet-battery.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:00 [connui-internet.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:00 [rtcom-notification-ui.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:01 [sharing-manager-status.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:04 [ham-notifier.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:06 [ham-updates.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:25 [volume.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:25 [status-area-applet-profiles.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:25 [rtcom-presence-ui.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:25 [connui-bluetooth.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:25 [location.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:27 [hildon-status-menu-usb.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:29 [sync-plugin.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:32 [as-status-applet.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:34 [fmtx.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:37 [bluetooth-headset.desktop] Aug 31 18:39:39 [connui-bluetooth-transfer.desktop] Aug 31 18:40:13 ...maybe rather use pastebin Aug 31 18:40:13 Sicelo: im trying to find out why there are four empty squares in my status menu Aug 31 18:40:36 joga: sorry for that, wont paste anything more now Aug 31 18:42:58 btw they lasted reboot. So it's something more than just temporary error Aug 31 18:44:28 next time pastebin :) Aug 31 18:44:32 Pali: poke, where on the sd card should I put the kernel to boot? (trying mainline now, looking at http://elinux.org/N900) Aug 31 18:45:07 with uboot? Aug 31 18:45:21 yes Aug 31 18:45:31 anywhere in fat iirc Aug 31 18:45:39 but it needs a name I presume Aug 31 18:45:43 so partition one must be fat? Aug 31 18:45:50 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 Aug 31 18:45:56 ah, have it open just now Aug 31 18:45:58 thanks! Aug 31 18:46:00 hint taken, but does anybody have a clue? Aug 31 18:46:17 fat16, (fat32 sometimes has problems!!) ext2, ext3 or ext4 Aug 31 18:46:35 so ext2/ext4 then :) Aug 31 18:47:45 http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=doc/README.nokia_rx51 Aug 31 18:48:25 search for "Boot from SD or eMMC in this order:" Aug 31 18:48:37 this is for command "run sdboot" Aug 31 18:48:54 or you can create boot menu entry (see talk.maemo.org post) Aug 31 18:49:20 solved. I have somehow got program quicklaunch Aug 31 18:49:33 Pali: ack Aug 31 18:49:34 but i can't recall installing it Aug 31 18:49:39 I was already using printenv to explore how the booting worked Aug 31 18:54:22 isnt thre dpkg log somewhere? Aug 31 19:01:30 /var/log/dpkg.log on Debian systems. Aug 31 20:11:01 hum Aug 31 20:11:31 interestingly, i wasnt able to trigger edv1:1 at the end of the cycle Aug 31 20:11:37 does it matter? Aug 31 20:34:32 then i don't believe calibration succeeded. did it? Aug 31 21:16:05 weird thing is that last time i did the same thing Aug 31 21:16:18 ie. ran bq script with param and waiting for edv Aug 31 21:16:27 and rate was ~100mA Aug 31 21:16:53 this time it went under 3300mV and showed battery empty Aug 31 21:38:28 sorry to ask, I have a question about falshing my n900 Aug 31 21:39:14 I tried : Aug 31 21:39:29 "download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh" Aug 31 21:39:38 and got to the point where it says: Aug 31 21:39:54 ################################################################## Aug 31 21:39:54 please remove battery from N900, then plug N900 to a primary (non-hub) USB jack of this PC. Then insert battery which should result in this script continuing... Aug 31 21:39:54 ################################################################## Aug 31 21:39:54 resetting r&d-mode and flags Aug 31 21:39:54 maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5: error while loading shared libraries: libusb-0.1.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Aug 31 21:39:56 maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5: error while loading shared libraries: libusb-0.1.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Aug 31 21:40:01 flashing rootfs... Aug 31 21:40:03 maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5: error while loading shared libraries: libusb-0.1.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Aug 31 21:40:06 sorry, flashing RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (NOLO, rootfs, modem-fw) failed with errorcode 0 Aug 31 21:42:12 - eventhough the script does not wait until I connect my n900 Aug 31 21:42:19 -> Any ideas? Aug 31 21:43:40 install libusb Aug 31 21:43:42 32bit Aug 31 21:47:02 @kerio it says libusb-1.0-0 is already the newest version ... Aug 31 21:48:16 you need libusb-0 which is incompatible with libusb-1 (go figure...) Aug 31 21:49:54 @ecc3g apt-get says that I have lib-usb-0.1-4 as newest version ... Aug 31 21:50:11 ah, sorry missread your advise Aug 31 21:50:13 sorry Aug 31 21:54:30 @ecc3g - I am a little confused Aug 31 21:58:09 does anyone how to install libusb-0 (if it is not libusb-0.1-4 [is already the newest version]) under ubuntu? Aug 31 22:00:48 no-one? kerio? Aug 31 22:27:10 sorry, I found this citation in the logs: Aug 31 22:27:13 DocScrutinizer05 hi xes! :) how's life? 17:23 Aug 31 22:27:13 xes i think flasher has some problem with recent hardware and usb 3.0 ports (and/or 64 bit linux) Aug 31 22:27:40 It's from Thursday, 2015-08-20 Aug 31 22:27:54 I think this might be the same problem I have ... I don't know ... Aug 31 23:13:17 what I really hate: go to http://www.google.de/url?q=http://www.teslamotors.com/de_DE/&sa=U&ved=0CBEQFjAAahUKEwiY0v72uNTHAhWBlhQKHdD5B3w&usg=AFQjCNGybHDKCK_re2uAHbbsC_qbfM_6UA and click the rightmost 'explore' button Aug 31 23:14:47 actually it's http://www.teslamotors.com/de_DE/ and the button label is "entdecken" Aug 31 23:15:39 freezes your device via "swap hell exploit" Aug 31 23:16:39 push power button once, after 10 minutes select 'kill recent task' from menu, to recover Aug 31 23:17:32 evidently microB urgently needs some ulimits set on RAM usage Aug 31 23:19:37 when idiots design monster webpages that try to allocate >>250MB of RAM, we should kill off hard the browser Aug 31 23:22:47 Interesting. Sep 01 00:29:57 ~flasher Sep 01 00:29:57 it has been said that flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 01 00:57:11 mtnman: if you have a linux box and want the easy going: Sep 01 00:57:16 ~flashing Sep 01 00:57:16 maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Sep 01 00:58:30 the latter is tested to work, now even available in recently updated v2.0 Sep 01 01:00:24 ...which asks if you want to flash VANILLA (aka /home/ and MyDocs) or not Sep 01 01:01:36 you nevertheless should read the *complete* info at http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware before you start Sep 01 01:02:04 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz is just a convenience thing Sep 01 01:07:41 Does anyone know what the concept of sending text INLINE with an email? Sep 01 01:08:10 What text? Sep 01 01:08:17 A job application Sep 01 01:08:27 Put the text of your resume IN LINE within the email. Sep 01 01:08:36 Trying to figure out what exactly they mean Sep 01 01:08:55 Copy-paste into message body as plain text. Sep 01 01:08:59 K Sep 01 01:09:00 Thanks Sep 01 01:09:12 Which is barbarous though. A resume usually has nice layout and stuff. Sep 01 01:09:22 I would cheat and send them an HTML email with resume inline in that. Sep 01 01:18:34 svetlana: it's about different presentation on recipient's side. Inline should get displayed together with msg body, while attachment is just that: an attachment you need to explicitly open# Sep 01 01:19:08 Well, it's for a pentest job. If I don't follow their directions, doubt I'll get my shot Sep 01 01:19:11 errr stryngs ^^^ Sep 01 01:20:30 stryngs: it's about different mime-types of email attachments Sep 01 01:20:58 inline-disposition is sort of more aggressive Sep 01 01:21:51 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1395151/content-dispositionwhat-are-the-differences-between-inline-and-attachment Sep 01 01:21:55 DocScrutinizer05: So, do you think posting it as the body was cool? Sep 01 01:22:32 hmmm, depends. I'd prefer it since I generally reject HTML mail Sep 01 01:22:59 DocScrutinizer05: Here's hoping thne =) Sep 01 01:31:14 basically an inline-disposition of an .exe might immediately execute the .exe on opening the mail. With attachment it would always show up as email attachment and you could decide to store it to local storage or open it or do whatever you like with it. (a window noob's POV) Sep 01 01:32:09 so asking for an inline disposition in a pentest application is... weird Sep 01 01:33:02 maybe they didn't mean inline-disposition mimetype but actually asked for plaintext in msg body, which is quite the opposite Sep 01 01:34:46 sending answers inline oftem neans that you quote the OP and insert your answers right between the quoted lines (one blank line above, 2 blank lines below) Sep 01 01:34:57 often means* Sep 01 01:35:48 see Sep 01 01:35:54 ~wiki TOFU Sep 01 01:35:58 At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{wiktionary|tofu}} 'Tofu' is a food made from coagulated soy milk. 'Tofu' may also refer to: * TOFU, a synonym for top-posting in e-mail and Internet forums * Tofu Records, a former American record label for Japanese artists * Trust on first use, a security model associated with the SSH protocol * Slang for the empty boxes shown in place of undisplayable code points in compute Sep 01 01:36:58 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style Sep 01 01:37:43 >>In the interleaved reply style (also called "inline reply",...<< Sep 01 01:59:09 * stryngs is creating Ras_Older's invention in a nice .deb =) Sep 01 02:03:41 ~flasher Sep 01 02:03:42 somebody said flasher was at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 01 02:06:58 Does someone knows how to identify which CSSU version is running on the N900? Sep 01 02:07:22 when I go to "about product" I have the 21.2011.38-1 Sep 01 02:15:47 ~tabletsdev Sep 01 02:15:48 i heard tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads Sep 01 02:16:06 ~emmc Sep 01 02:16:06 it has been said that emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 Sep 01 02:16:18 ~emmc2 Sep 01 02:16:18 rumour has it, emmc2 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22FGDOJCSI/--LID--FiRe1275064390175/163EC1AE_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.IBERIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22VHGOMWUG/--LID--FiRe1274862877184/E3AD4912_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SEAP_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or see emmc3 Sep 01 02:16:34 ~emmc3 Sep 01 02:16:34 hmm... emmc3 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/4/--FID--A0A22UYGVCFDF/--LID--FiRe1272381325983/E14B4F3B_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SCANDINAVIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Sep 01 02:32:26 Ras_Older: Very nice job with your lib modification. As well, It's just a library, the .h file. Changing it back after yer done with it is the proper way to handle it. imho, what you did is ok froma high level view. No clue on the low level and the binary itself, but stryngs approved =) Sep 01 02:54:38 ~emmc Sep 01 02:54:38 [emmc] is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 Sep 01 02:54:46 ~combined Sep 01 02:54:46 hmm... combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 01 02:54:57 ~flasher Sep 01 02:54:58 i heard flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 01 02:55:22 Hmm Sep 01 02:55:27 http://termbin.com/rdvi Sep 01 02:55:35 Are those "normal" maemo LD issues for 4.6? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 01 02:59:58 2015