**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 01 02:59:58 2015 Sep 01 03:13:03 Has anyone in here completly removed the gcc 4.2 environment from their n900? Sep 01 03:15:21 dude... Im struggling to update the firmware. Not even had the chance to play with it Sep 01 03:17:12 sla_erick: eh Sep 01 05:21:18 good email readers display text attachment and images inline anyway Sep 01 05:38:02 good email readers allow you to disable html rendering ;) Sep 01 05:38:10 that too Sep 01 05:38:31 and allow you to select prefferred content to display Sep 01 05:47:01 My email reader doesn't have HTML rendering. Sep 01 05:47:46 if something comes only as HTML, I use the pipe attachment functionality to render it with elinks. Sep 01 06:34:01 then it does have html rendering Sep 01 06:34:03 :) Sep 01 06:40:24 what was the command to simulate install but not actually install anything? Apt-get -? install package. Sep 01 06:41:13 ever tried apt-get --help ? Sep 01 06:41:18 -s No-act. Perform ordering simulation Sep 01 06:43:01 hmm no :D Sep 01 06:44:10 there is a hint for you, most of the utils have -h or --help built it! Sep 01 06:44:25 some also have man page Sep 01 06:44:26 ever heard saying "there is no stupid questions, only stupid people" :) Sep 01 06:44:33 naaah Sep 01 06:44:36 just kidding Sep 01 06:44:44 me too Sep 01 06:45:24 usually i try -h or help but somehow apt escaped from that thought Sep 01 06:46:05 and i dont consider people trying doing things as stupid Sep 01 06:46:30 not everyone borns with all manuals remembered Sep 01 06:49:10 well my problem is that i've used mostly graphical parts of linux. It wa easier to run for example nautilus as root than to move files in commandline, but in maemo im starting to prefer cmdline more and more. Sep 01 06:49:22 wa=was* Sep 01 06:50:20 i was used to text mode since the beginning Sep 01 06:50:50 graphical tools are nice, but sometimes (often) you have to do things remotely or with dead x Sep 01 07:48:33 ~fiasco Sep 01 07:48:33 L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/ Sep 01 07:48:48 :) Sep 01 07:48:59 ~rootfs Sep 01 07:49:00 that factoid is a fiasco Sep 01 07:49:00 rootfs: the content of the storage volume mounted under /, on NAND mtd5 partition. Also called "the system", since it's all the files forming the linux core system (except the kernel itself). Reflash rootfs from COMBINED (see ~flashing). Also see ~bootloop Sep 01 07:49:24 ~flashing Sep 01 07:49:24 somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Sep 01 07:56:59 ~RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Sep 01 07:57:53 where is the place to get the rootfs image? Sep 01 08:00:33 ~combined Sep 01 08:00:34 combined is probably the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 01 08:02:54 thanks KotCzarny Sep 01 08:02:59 but it isnt working Sep 01 08:03:01 apparently Sep 01 08:03:09 there was some other mirror Sep 01 08:03:57 galif.eu isn't working Sep 01 08:04:45 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1418219&postcount=13 Sep 01 08:04:50 some generic hosting Sep 01 08:05:22 first one seems to have worked Sep 01 08:05:36 oddly enough... Sep 01 08:05:44 wow Sep 01 08:05:58 so they didnt remove ALL of the maemo stuff yet Sep 01 08:06:11 could be some generic archive forgotten by people and time Sep 01 08:06:46 well it is partly downloaded here... Sep 01 08:06:54 i think it just finished Sep 01 08:07:44 i shall grab me copy just in case Sep 01 08:07:45 :) Sep 01 08:07:47 ok now for flasher... Sep 01 08:07:58 grab the flasher-3.5 Sep 01 08:08:03 not newer, not older Sep 01 08:08:09 or 0xFFFF Sep 01 08:08:17 i have 3.5 Sep 01 08:08:18 though for full flash flasher-3.5 Sep 01 08:08:32 just use the script from: Sep 01 08:08:35 ~flashing Sep 01 08:08:35 hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Sep 01 08:09:27 no i only want to flash rootfs. i've used flasher from command line before and it worked find Sep 01 08:09:36 fine, eve Sep 01 08:09:40 even!!! Sep 01 08:12:01 :) Sep 01 08:26:04 nobody? Sep 01 08:27:07 internet? Sep 01 08:31:56 i tried to look it up in the internet, but I found a lot of broken links ... although I thought that I might get some help here, since the script was recommended here ... Sep 01 08:32:31 but I am looking for an answer and let u know whenever I solved the problem ... Sep 01 09:11:53 axon: did you ask a question? i fail to see it. Sep 01 09:17:12 @mtnman: Sep 01 09:17:21 i asked yesterday night for some support and just wanted to check if perhaps now people are awake who might help : whenever I run "sudo ./flash-it-all.sh" fromhttp://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz it doesn't work Sep 01 09:17:21 after Sep 01 09:17:21 ################################################################## Sep 01 09:17:21 please remove battery from N900, then plug N900 to a primary (non-hub) USB jack of this PC. Then insert battery which should result in this script continuing... Sep 01 09:17:23 ################################################################## Sep 01 09:17:25 he does not even wait until I plug in the n900 ... Sep 01 09:17:29 he just continues Sep 01 09:17:36 so my question is: Sep 01 09:17:48 do you have any idea how to fix it? Sep 01 09:18:56 or how to properly flash my device? Sep 01 09:19:00 n900 Sep 01 09:26:52 axon: i have not used that script. i have used flasher from command line. Sep 01 09:27:17 in fact, i'm about to reflash just now. Sep 01 09:27:33 i looked up http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Sep 01 09:27:38 but there most links are broken Sep 01 09:27:46 I have a ubuntu system Sep 01 09:27:59 the current flasher already downloaded a few files ... Sep 01 09:28:11 yes the links to download are broken. but the files are available. which particular ones do you still need? Sep 01 09:28:18 ls -a Sep 01 09:28:18 . Sep 01 09:28:18 .. Sep 01 09:28:18 flash-it-all.sh Sep 01 09:28:18 maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2 Sep 01 09:28:19 md5sums.txt Sep 01 09:28:21 RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Sep 01 09:28:23 RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Sep 01 09:28:25 trasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz Sep 01 09:28:41 please don't paste a bunch of stuff Sep 01 09:28:46 its hard to follow Sep 01 09:28:49 sorry Sep 01 09:29:06 tell me exactly which file you are looking for.... let's do it one at a time. Sep 01 09:29:42 the flasher and the latest firmware ... Sep 01 09:29:46 for the n900 Sep 01 09:29:49 I guess Sep 01 09:29:54 ~flasher Sep 01 09:29:55 somebody said flasher was at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 01 09:30:32 galif.eu is broken, but try each of the others and see if any work. Sep 01 09:31:05 iirc, i got flasher from jedge.com. Sep 01 09:31:14 me too Sep 01 09:31:19 now Sep 01 09:31:49 okay so you have the flasher-3.5 for your system? Sep 01 09:32:02 that's how it looks like Sep 01 09:32:13 you said ubuntu? Sep 01 09:32:17 yes Sep 01 09:32:36 did you download a .deb or a tar.gz? Sep 01 09:32:49 .tar.gz Sep 01 09:33:05 when I try to start it I get an error message: Sep 01 09:33:15 libusb-0.1.so.4 Sep 01 09:33:20 is missing Sep 01 09:33:43 but I can't find it with apt-cache Sep 01 09:34:03 ~libusb Sep 01 09:34:29 ~libusb-0.1.so.4 Sep 01 09:35:06 axon: i have never used ubuntu, but it is debian-based and you can load .debs and there is a debian package for flasher, iirc. Sep 01 09:36:36 ok, I downloaded it Sep 01 09:37:33 I can't install it due to a dependency problem Sep 01 09:37:42 flasher-3.5 hängt ab von libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.12) Sep 01 09:37:52 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=186130 Sep 01 09:38:12 axon follow the above link, someone describes the same problem you seem to be having. Sep 01 09:38:27 hint: you can google on your error msgs Sep 01 09:40:19 * mtnman goes afk for a bit Sep 01 09:43:49 someone should write a good 0xffff howto Sep 01 09:49:52 @mtnman: thanks a lot for your help ... now it looks like it is working ... sorry, the problem is described in the article http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware - at the bottom they helped me out with the libusb-0.1-4_0.1.12-13_i386.deb Sep 01 09:51:36 glad to help. now if i can get lib-usb working on my friend's windows machine... i'm away from home without my computer and need to reflash Sep 01 09:52:07 thanks again ... I just rebooted my device ... Sep 01 09:52:14 btw the @ is not needed. name and : is enough. Sep 01 09:52:47 ok Sep 01 10:04:16 sorry may I ask again ... after flashing my n900 doesn't identify to my computer anymore Sep 01 10:04:43 normally I had the possiblity to chose: connect as storage device or computer-suite Sep 01 10:07:15 I have no sim card inside ... Sep 01 10:07:31 that seems to cause the problem ... Sep 01 10:07:48 lack of sim card is probably not the problem Sep 01 10:08:10 i don't understand what you mean by "doesn' Sep 01 10:08:27 by "doesn't identify to my computer anymore" Sep 01 10:08:44 what exactly are you trying to say? Sep 01 10:09:22 if i plug the usb cable in - I don't get a menu Sep 01 10:09:31 I am currently rebooting with a sim Sep 01 10:09:56 i have a feeling rebooting even w/o the sim would work Sep 01 10:10:12 * mtnman flashed without a sim the first time Sep 01 10:11:24 yes, rebooting with a sim solved the problem Sep 01 10:11:29 i could boot before Sep 01 10:11:39 but i couldn't connect it to my computer Sep 01 10:11:55 btw: do you know the look code after flashing? Sep 01 10:12:09 to lock the screen and so on Sep 01 10:34:35 the lock code is whatever you set it to Sep 01 10:34:59 the lock code persists after flashing. Sep 01 10:35:41 btw it was the reboot, not the sim that made the difference. Sep 01 10:42:23 axon: use 32bit livecd distro Sep 01 10:43:02 mtnman - I tried rebooting before and it didn't work ... Sep 01 10:43:18 KotCzarny: whatfor? Sep 01 10:43:19 default code is 12345 Sep 01 10:43:31 axon: nvm, my scrollback was helf Sep 01 10:43:33 *helf Sep 01 10:43:36 drat Sep 01 10:43:38 *held Sep 01 10:44:51 thank you 12345 worked ;-) Sep 01 10:45:02 lol Sep 01 10:45:38 * mtnman has successfully flashed for the first time using a win64 machine Sep 01 10:45:45 woohoo! Sep 01 10:46:08 :> Sep 01 10:46:19 KotCzarny: I don't understand: nvm, my scrollback was held Sep 01 10:46:27 now restoring from backup... Sep 01 10:46:34 congrats to mtnman Sep 01 10:46:54 axon, i scrolled up my irc window and it held there, so i didnt see further text Sep 01 10:47:10 that's why i answered much earlier question Sep 01 10:47:19 * mtnman fixed two n900s tonight with two new operating systems Sep 01 10:47:23 ok, thank you! Sep 01 10:47:38 KotCzarny: you were timely in your answer. it was what he was looking for. Sep 01 10:47:52 O.o Sep 01 10:48:24 but it was only second one that helped him Sep 01 10:48:29 i have a feeling my restore may fail to reinstall some apps because it may be pointing to a deprecated repository. Sep 01 10:48:31 the one when i already scrolled it down Sep 01 10:48:42 mtnman, update repos list first then? Sep 01 10:49:03 aha... i missed your first answer to him since it had scrolled past.... hahah. Sep 01 10:49:05 heheh Sep 01 10:50:40 ~repos Sep 01 10:50:40 repos is probably "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Sep 01 10:50:46 ~maemo-repos Sep 01 10:50:47 hmm... maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Sep 01 10:51:12 things are installing... i guess i have at least one good one setup. Sep 01 10:51:35 that nokia mirror is mostly needed for proprietary stuff Sep 01 10:51:38 * mtnman is happy he can listen to music now Sep 01 10:51:49 mtnman, have you tried oscp yet? Sep 01 10:51:59 oscp? Sep 01 10:52:01 ~oscp Sep 01 10:52:02 i heard oscp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 Sep 01 10:52:46 :) Sep 01 10:53:08 so it is an audio player? Sep 01 10:53:11 or media?? Sep 01 10:53:23 started as audio player Sep 01 10:53:34 but added video play as a easy addon Sep 01 10:53:45 but by default it only plays audio Sep 01 10:54:07 (which is kind of nice if you downloaded bunch of .flv or .avi video clips Sep 01 10:54:14 and just want to listen to audio track of them Sep 01 10:54:39 what is its advantage over the stock media player? Sep 01 10:54:50 different philosophy Sep 01 10:55:00 stock uses tracker and media library Sep 01 10:55:16 and oscp uses? Sep 01 10:55:18 oscp is built upon 'your directory structure is your media library' Sep 01 10:55:32 also, oscp can run from terminal (or ssh) Sep 01 10:55:35 that makes more sense from a unix standpoint Sep 01 10:55:37 and has network remote Sep 01 10:55:51 just for completeness' sake .. if you want improved "stock" media player, then look at Open Media Player Sep 01 10:55:53 just try it, you either love it or hate it Sep 01 10:56:58 i find the way media player assembles a library annoying. its very un-unixy. Sep 01 10:57:09 then you will love oscp Sep 01 10:57:10 ah, oscp then ;) Sep 01 10:57:45 i cannot install it atm, i am still recovering from backup Sep 01 10:58:04 no worries, just keep it in your todo list Sep 01 10:58:09 also Sep 01 10:58:12 it also works on pc Sep 01 10:58:17 interface is identical Sep 01 10:58:21 i better not put it on that list, nothing on it ever seems to get done! Sep 01 10:58:24 so you can try that in the meantime Sep 01 10:58:46 i am borrowing a pc atm so i probably will not install it on here. Sep 01 10:58:46 tar.gz package is on sourceforge Sep 01 10:59:32 https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/oscp/screenshots/oscp.gif Sep 01 10:59:39 it's the ncurses gui screenshot Sep 01 11:00:10 * mtnman likes software that runs on a console Sep 01 11:00:24 also, it has minimal dependencies Sep 01 11:00:40 * mtnman likes minimal dependencies Sep 01 11:00:42 mostly system libs, decoding libraries are compiled statically in Sep 01 11:01:13 i will definitely try to remember oscp. Sep 01 11:01:27 also, there is also pentium-mmx build, in case you have some nettop terminal with castrated cpu Sep 01 11:01:42 200mhz is enough for most codecs Sep 01 11:02:16 i retired all of my pentiums, though i think i have my first linux box in storage... 386 cpu. Sep 01 11:02:41 for mp3 it could be enough Sep 01 11:02:54 though clearly would need i386 recompile Sep 01 11:03:23 it also has winamp skin mode Sep 01 11:03:24 well it is halfway around the world from where i am now and i won't have the opportunity to see that box for at least 3 months, maybe a year. Sep 01 11:03:42 but i will probably give it a shot on the n900 Sep 01 11:03:47 https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/oscp/screenshots/oscp-winamp-skin.png Sep 01 11:04:01 and there is 2GB winamp skin package on talk.maemo.org Sep 01 11:04:12 (and oscp has load-random-skin keybinding) Sep 01 11:04:21 information overload. i will look for it another time. Sep 01 11:04:27 :) Sep 01 11:04:31 just remember the name Sep 01 11:04:46 ok. btw what is your location? Sep 01 11:04:55 define location Sep 01 11:05:02 part of the world Sep 01 11:05:05 .pl Sep 01 11:05:29 cool. i am always curious of the location of people with whom i communicate. Sep 01 11:05:39 did i say it plays most of the audio formats you might have? Sep 01 11:05:49 yes yes yes Sep 01 11:05:49 if not all Sep 01 11:05:50 ;) Sep 01 11:06:33 listen, i am not gonna look at it til at least tomorrow. i will finish my restore, listen to some music, and go to bed. Sep 01 11:06:46 sure, just making sure the name sticks in your memory Sep 01 11:07:24 my audio has been broken on this thing for about 1.5 years... Sep 01 11:07:33 n900 or pc? Sep 01 11:07:35 and it would not accept incoming calls. Sep 01 11:07:38 how annoying Sep 01 11:07:53 n900. i told you i don't have a pc and am borrowing one atm Sep 01 11:07:59 uhum Sep 01 11:08:10 but you have reflashed, does it work now? Sep 01 11:08:24 yes i told you it works now. Sep 01 11:08:27 cool Sep 01 11:08:42 seems you are better at saying stuff than listening :) Sep 01 11:09:08 its hot here Sep 01 11:09:11 no offense intended Sep 01 11:09:12 31C in the shadows Sep 01 11:09:13 ((someone should write a good 0xffff howto)) and 0xFFFF does NOT need libusb? Sep 01 11:09:40 it was 11C indoors here for most of the day :) Sep 01 11:09:51 lucky you Sep 01 11:10:04 in car it goes up to 35-40C Sep 01 11:10:04 my hands got too cold to type, so i lit a fire. Sep 01 11:10:25 grab some half-mittens? Sep 01 11:10:25 * mtnman has no car Sep 01 11:10:40 the ones with fingers cut Sep 01 11:10:56 i have always resisted those Sep 01 11:11:12 in the winter i've used them Sep 01 11:11:19 for typing? Sep 01 11:11:22 when i worked in badly heated building Sep 01 11:11:24 oh yeah those are awesome Sep 01 11:11:24 yeah Sep 01 11:11:38 i'll think about it Sep 01 11:11:52 and n900 doesnt need those ressitive ones Sep 01 11:11:59 so you can grab some for 1-2eur Sep 01 11:12:05 * mtnman prefers to light a fire Sep 01 11:12:07 http://www.iaminthestore.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/dca5dbeb0da86656ca8438b075f39329/B/e/Best_Quality_Deathrock_Skeleton_Pattern_Knitted_Warm-Keeping_Average_Size_Half_Finger_Gloves_Elastic_Half_Finger_Gloves_Mittens_White_1.jpg Sep 01 11:12:59 i know some people who wear those under shell mittens on less cold days Sep 01 11:13:23 they are good if you have to type in cold room Sep 01 11:13:42 by the way, the ones in the picture are gloves. mittens don't have fingers. Sep 01 11:14:09 mittens, glove, with fingers cut they work the same ;) Sep 01 11:14:19 also, english is not my primary language Sep 01 11:14:37 i realize that. it is why i explained it to you. Sep 01 11:14:42 :) Sep 01 11:15:11 and just to make sure your eyes remember: oscp (old school console player) Sep 01 11:15:33 and it doesnt matter it's much more than console Sep 01 11:16:30 you can stop now. i made a note of it. Sep 01 11:17:01 :) tea time Sep 01 11:17:40 and since you did clean flash, you know about cssu? Sep 01 11:18:01 yes, after restore it is my next step. Sep 01 11:19:19 as opposed to NeXTSTEP Sep 01 11:23:53 then cssu howto will already tell you about: Sep 01 11:23:55 ~bm Sep 01 11:23:56 hmm... backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 Sep 01 13:11:27 has anyone done a second-curtain flash with the n900? http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/h/1771 Sep 01 13:12:27 fcamera (the app) has no flash support Sep 01 13:13:08 fcam (the lib) does, though ... so you'd just need to patch it (or patch rawcam) Sep 01 14:18:06 Has anyone in here completly removed the gcc 4.2 environment from their n900? Sep 01 14:22:59 removed? Sep 01 14:23:06 apt-get remove ? Sep 01 14:42:48 As in I'd like 4.6 to be the main environment KotCzarny Sep 01 14:43:02 I've got a switcheroo thingie I do, which works, but I get a lot of LD issues Sep 01 14:43:31 http://termbin.com/rdvi Sep 01 14:43:34 Things like that Sep 01 14:43:44 I dunno if its the way I have the environment setup or whatnot Sep 01 14:43:57 It builds just fine, but still, figure it might be cleaner if I rip out the 4.2 stuff Sep 01 14:44:28 KotCzarny: I have found a nice remote GUI for the oscp :3 http://i.imgur.com/qFFPPOa.png Sep 01 14:45:05 it's called GoTYY - https://github.com/yudai/gotty " Share your terminal as a web application" Sep 01 14:46:27 you can run ARM release from here https://github.com/yudai/gotty/releases on a N900 and it works just fine Sep 01 15:00:39 stryngs, 4.6 in repos is broken, ie. generating bad binaries Sep 01 15:01:26 totalizator, nice Sep 01 15:01:42 you can post it to tmo if you've tried it Sep 01 15:04:00 KotCzarny: Do we have 4.7? Sep 01 15:04:33 KotCzarny: I've built a couple different things with 4.6, and it works well, the stuff I've built; ld issues aside Sep 01 15:05:38 stryngs, i think it misbuilt something for me Sep 01 15:05:46 and 4.7 is available Sep 01 15:06:17 http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU-thumb_toolchain_setup_%28gcc4.7.2-linaro%29 Sep 01 15:06:19 here Sep 01 15:06:22 wow Sep 01 15:06:25 KotCzarny: very cool Sep 01 15:06:28 its about cssu, but works on stock too Sep 01 15:06:37 KotCzarny: So that begs the question, CAN 4.2 be removed? Sep 01 15:07:15 stryngs, from device itself? yes, in sb? doesnt matter as you can setup different toolchain target Sep 01 15:07:41 KotCzarny: I don't use sb Sep 01 15:07:50 KotCzarny: I will check into the 4.7 info; very handy Sep 01 15:08:06 sb is convenient Sep 01 15:08:25 easy to backup/restore, and if something breaks it doesnt bring down the device Sep 01 15:08:58 KotCzarny: Right, but still. Hmm, so it seems I have to build 4.7 Sep 01 15:09:14 could be tricky Sep 01 15:09:34 Oh well, it'll be worth it; I'm going through an image change right now Sep 01 15:09:40 For 4.4, does it work well? Sep 01 15:09:42 i have tried gcc from 4.4.x to 4.9.x, and it didnt build out of the bat Sep 01 15:09:50 KotCzarny: 4.4 has .debs though Sep 01 15:09:57 havent tried Sep 01 15:10:02 KotCzarny: k. Sep 01 15:10:03 but 4.7 works fine Sep 01 15:10:11 Yeah, but I don't have the 4.7 .deb =/ Sep 01 15:10:12 i've build whole oscp with it and it worked ok Sep 01 15:10:23 * stryngs doesn't use scratchbox. Sep 01 15:10:34 * stryngs prefers to natively build. Sep 01 15:11:01 n900 is fine for smaller packages, but if i have 6 core 3.3ghz machine handy, why not using it? Sep 01 15:11:37 KotCzarny: Agreed; it's just not for me =) Sep 01 15:11:51 KotCzarny: KotCzarny So do you have the .debs handy for 4.7? Sep 01 15:11:58 nope Sep 01 15:12:05 KotCzarny: Ah, feel like making some? =) Sep 01 15:12:07 as i said, gcc didnt build for me Sep 01 15:12:16 tried from 4.4 to 4.9 Sep 01 15:12:25 and probably needs some patching Sep 01 15:12:26 KotCzarny: Ah, so you only attempted with sb, not natively Sep 01 15:12:31 (we have old libc) Sep 01 15:12:42 ive tried compiling gcc IN sb Sep 01 15:12:51 so it was kind if native Sep 01 15:13:15 Interesting. Sep 01 15:13:28 When I get some time, I'll see what I can do about building it natively Sep 01 15:13:30 but it was failing in stage3 usually Sep 01 15:13:38 It would be nice to have 4.7 ON the n900 Sep 01 15:13:46 as i said, i suspect old libs Sep 01 15:13:54 and some arm quirks Sep 01 15:14:07 if you manage, prepare the patch and howto please :) Sep 01 15:14:28 or just build into /opt/gcc47 Sep 01 15:14:33 for easy moving Sep 01 15:16:14 I'll give it a whirl Sep 01 15:17:48 looks like i'm the only one not finding fault with tracker :$ Sep 01 15:17:52 :) Sep 01 15:36:34 * stryngs attempts to build 4.7.4 -------> Natively. Sep 01 15:36:44 And yes Sep 01 15:36:47 * stryngs IS crazy Sep 01 15:37:00 good kinda crazy Sep 01 15:37:43 Ras_Older: I deb'd your work Sep 01 15:37:53 Ras_Older: As well, u don't need to mod reaver Sep 01 15:37:57 it built without your mods Sep 01 15:38:04 http://ethicalreporting.org/foo.tgz if u want it Sep 01 15:38:15 f5c534a0f6100435746ede8ddc8ae16b91b1e3ea reaver_1.5.2-fork-t6_x_armel.deb Sep 01 15:38:19 Hi everyone, what do you recommend between installing kernel power or cssu? what are the differences Sep 01 15:38:22 0e15fab3dede917388dab15f054ac899f8bbfa24 pixiewps_1.1_armel.deb Sep 01 15:44:04 sla_erick: you can have them both. Kernel power is just updated kernel, but cssu is like mostly updated maemo operating system. Sep 01 15:46:36 Vajb: thanks, so as of today, is it better to have the cssu than the pr 1.3.1? Sep 01 15:47:12 it's been better to have cssu for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong time Sep 01 15:47:37 i prefer cssu. It's community build newest possible maemo. pr 1.3.1 s just where Nokia left off Sep 01 15:48:08 okay, Ill definately try it then. Thanks guys Sep 01 15:48:43 do you recommend first installing power kernel or cssu? Sep 01 15:51:57 i think it doesn't matter, but i have a feeling i did cssu first Sep 01 15:52:40 also there is atleast three versions of cssu Sep 01 15:52:56 cssu-stable, cssu-testing and cssu-thumb Sep 01 15:53:36 i have a cssu-testing and it's stablest operating system what i have had in nokia phones Sep 01 15:54:28 do not install thumb before a kernel with thumb support (recent kernel-power for instance) Sep 01 15:55:17 okay. One more thing, I have the extras repo enabled and also the OVI. Im getting the repos from wiki.maemo.org/Repository. Do I need to have any other enabled repo? I see "Nokia Applications" and "Nokia System Software Updates" but I dont know if I need those Sep 01 15:58:19 cssu install will automatically pull repos it needs Sep 01 15:58:32 just follow instructions on cssu page Sep 01 15:58:37 Vajb: except for the nokia repositories Sep 01 15:58:52 but CSSU should be fine regarding that now Sep 01 15:59:28 oh yeah they can't be pulled automagically since they are on different place now? Sep 01 15:59:38 exactly Sep 01 16:00:50 hmm maybe i should do fresh install just to see how it works out now Sep 01 16:01:42 great, so now I have to decide what cssu, Vajb says that testing is the stablest to him. How about thumb? the wiki article N900 perfect setup says to install cssu thumb Sep 01 16:03:31 well cssu-stable should be stablest them all, but i just wanted to note that testing is also stable for me :) Sep 01 16:04:39