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Sep 03 03:04:54 <DocScrutinizer05> Oksana: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#proper_bash_and_tools
Sep 03 06:36:10 <KotCzarny> oksana: imgur is sometimes overloaded
Sep 03 06:36:24 <KotCzarny> and rightly so, its one of the best image sharers
Sep 03 06:39:35 <kerio> the direct links to images usually work
Sep 03 06:43:23 <KotCzarny> not always
Sep 03 06:43:32 <KotCzarny> sometimes even direct links time out
Sep 03 06:43:47 <KotCzarny> curse of popularity
Sep 03 08:48:25 <totalizator> btw - any chance to make imgur share plugin for n900 auth capable?
Sep 03 08:48:56 <KotCzarny> answer is: maybe, who is the maintainer/developer?
Sep 03 08:49:39 <totalizator> dude, I'm a script kiddie not an archeologist
Sep 03 08:49:45 <KotCzarny> hehe
Sep 03 08:49:59 <KotCzarny> even script kiddies grow up a little
Sep 03 08:50:05 <KotCzarny> if the need arises
Sep 03 08:50:15 <totalizator> argh, you got me
Sep 03 08:51:34 <KotCzarny> im compiling oscp for 64bit cygwin
Sep 03 08:51:40 <KotCzarny> lets see how well it goes
Sep 03 08:51:57 <KotCzarny> maybe i will write proper makefile one day
Sep 03 09:02:01 <totalizator> impossible O__O
Sep 03 09:02:18 <totalizator> fingers crossed
Sep 03 09:11:05 <KotCzarny> i love fixing stuff by commenting code out, eh
Sep 03 09:12:45 <buZz> anyone been able to fix WPA Enterprise on Maemo ?
Sep 03 09:13:01 <buZz> it seems to be lacking a anonymous identity field
Sep 03 09:13:14 <buZz> thus our radius doesnt know where to auth me ;(
Sep 03 10:20:27 <ceene> I'm quite happy with the new Yappari release
Sep 03 10:20:50 <ceene> i've solved quite a few things
Sep 03 10:22:58 <ceene> i still don't understand how people find my thread on the forums, are able to read the first post to find my email, replace the #@# by @ and write me emails, but they are still unable to clock on the links to download the fcking .deb files
Sep 03 10:23:10 <ceene> *to click
Sep 03 10:27:01 <KotCzarny> magic
Sep 03 10:27:21 <KotCzarny> put email under the deb?
Sep 03 10:30:48 <ceene> the deb files have my email as maintainer and all that
Sep 03 10:30:56 <ceene> but my email is only on the changelog
Sep 03 10:31:08 <ceene> I'd assume that people would read the fucking post
Sep 03 10:31:22 <KotCzarny> put the debs at the end of the post
Sep 03 10:31:41 <ceene> but no, there's some people with the ability to skim read everything to search for an email address and write me instead of reading
Sep 03 10:32:10 <ceene> they are highlighted, just below a big bold " LATEST VERSION: 2.0.16"
Sep 03 10:32:12 <ceene> anyway
Sep 03 10:32:34 <ceene> the strangest thing of all is the people that ask me what "extras" is
Sep 03 10:32:54 <ceene> as if... i don't know, as if the n900 were a phone that was released yesterday
Sep 03 10:33:08 <KotCzarny> add a link to:
Sep 03 10:33:11 <ceene> that, i find it amusing
Sep 03 10:33:11 <KotCzarny> ~extras
Sep 03 10:33:11 <infobot> from memory, extras is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras
Sep 03 10:33:16 <KotCzarny> and/or:
Sep 03 10:33:18 <KotCzarny> ~maemo-repos
Sep 03 10:33:19 <infobot> rumour has it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Sep 03 10:33:32 <ceene> but... how people don't know about that?
Sep 03 10:33:40 <KotCzarny> there are still NEW n900 users, would you imagine?
Sep 03 10:33:45 <ceene> yep
Sep 03 10:33:46 <ceene> but
Sep 03 10:33:51 <ceene> i consider myself new, in fact
Sep 03 10:34:00 <ceene> my first and only n900 is from just a year and a half
Sep 03 10:34:13 <ceene> but i had read the full wiki and lots of forum threads before deciding to get one
Sep 03 10:34:15 <KotCzarny> my first and only n900 is from just a 6 years
Sep 03 10:34:25 <ceene> i knew how to flash it before i had ever seen one
Sep 03 10:34:41 <KotCzarny> maybe people get them because they are cheap and have hw kb
Sep 03 10:34:44 <ceene> i wouldn't get a 10 year old phone without knowing what it can and can't do
Sep 03 10:35:08 <KotCzarny> imagine that phrase 'n900 is cheap'
Sep 03 10:35:09 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 03 10:35:30 <ceene> dunno, there are android phones for 60 euros
Sep 03 10:45:55 <Sicelo> ceene: thanks for the new Yappari :)
Sep 03 10:49:11 <Sicelo> are you 100% sure? :-O  .... 18:27 < DocScrutinizer05> kerio: nope, again wrong (about being wrong) - actually when D+- isn't shorted then the N900 does not charge *at all*
Sep 03 10:50:09 <KotCzarny> wouldnt that mean n900 would be picky about chargers?
Sep 03 10:50:40 <KotCzarny> i've used many kinds of chargers (even some cheapo ones) and it always worked fine
Sep 03 10:50:50 <KotCzarny> even if samsungs complained/ignored
Sep 03 10:51:05 <ceene> Sicelo: you're welcome :)
Sep 03 11:36:16 <buZz> KotCzarny: i'm one :P
Sep 03 11:36:23 <buZz> found a n800 in a pile of old hw 
Sep 03 11:36:34 <buZz> dont care about GSM/phone hw
Sep 03 11:36:37 <buZz> but love a nice PDA
Sep 03 11:36:42 <KotCzarny> n800 or n900?
Sep 03 11:36:49 <buZz> n800
Sep 03 11:36:57 <buZz> omap2420 iirc
Sep 03 11:36:59 <KotCzarny> might i interest you in oscp?
Sep 03 11:37:19 <buZz> Offensive Security Certified Professional (OSCP) Certification ?
Sep 03 11:37:28 <KotCzarny> old schol console player
Sep 03 11:37:32 <KotCzarny> *school
Sep 03 11:37:37 <buZz> have a link? :)
Sep 03 11:37:40 <KotCzarny> ~oscp
Sep 03 11:37:40 <infobot> i heard oscp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590
Sep 03 11:38:04 <buZz> still need to install diablo :)
Sep 03 11:38:26 <buZz> impressive format list KotCzarny 
Sep 03 11:38:39 <KotCzarny> mostly libav and modules
Sep 03 11:38:45 <KotCzarny> and midi
Sep 03 11:39:37 <buZz> very cute
Sep 03 11:40:04 <KotCzarny> n800's dpad works nicely for navigation
Sep 03 11:40:28 <buZz> really like the shape of device
Sep 03 11:40:35 <buZz> smaller than most modern 'cellphones'
Sep 03 11:40:37 <buZz> :P
Sep 03 11:40:54 <KotCzarny> i like the dual full size sd slots
Sep 03 11:41:10 <buZz> yeah, but, does diablo support >8GB ?
Sep 03 11:41:16 <KotCzarny> most likely
Sep 03 11:41:33 <KotCzarny> i think someone put 2x256G there
Sep 03 11:41:44 <KotCzarny> could require updated kernel
Sep 03 11:41:48 <buZz> sexy
Sep 03 11:41:53 <KotCzarny> so flash to diablo
Sep 03 11:42:06 <buZz> i will
Sep 03 11:42:10 <buZz> after work :P
Sep 03 11:42:56 <KotCzarny> i guess you would like console (local or via ssh) and/or remote interface of oscp
Sep 03 12:50:50 <Oksanaa> I have done apt-get source as root, which has probably created confusing permissions. I am not yet at the stage to care...
Sep 03 12:51:46 <buZz> KotCzarny: nah even the maemo appearance looks good :)
Sep 03 12:53:01 <Wizzup> well, status update
Sep 03 12:53:05 <Wizzup> it boots, like previously
Sep 03 12:53:10 <Wizzup> using usbnet + telnetd I have access now
Sep 03 12:53:19 <Wizzup> but mount still fails with 'invalid argument'
Sep 03 12:53:24 <Wizzup> on all mmcblk0 and mmcblk1 partitions
Sep 03 12:53:29 <Wizzup> and I don't see any more debug
Sep 03 12:53:39 <Wizzup> I *CAN* reboot and pass debug to the kernel args
Sep 03 12:53:43 <Wizzup> but hoping I can do that runtime.
Sep 03 12:53:48 <KotCzarny> dmesg ?
Sep 03 12:57:07 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: nothing new is added after failed mounts
Sep 03 12:57:14 <Wizzup> guess I have to reboot with debug params
Sep 03 12:57:21 <KotCzarny> dmesg -s 999999|grep -i mmc
Sep 03 12:57:31 <KotCzarny> check for anything erranous
Sep 03 12:57:42 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: the problem is that the kernel writes nothing *new* to dmesg after a mou9nt
Sep 03 12:57:58 <Wizzup> I am already looking at dmesg
Sep 03 12:58:22 <KotCzarny> can you upload it somewhere?
Sep 03 12:58:49 <Wizzup> yes
Sep 03 12:59:37 <Wizzup> http://sprunge.us/KMCg
Sep 03 12:59:57 <KotCzarny> hmm
Sep 03 13:00:26 <Wizzup> # mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /mnt/root/
Sep 03 13:00:27 <Wizzup> mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /mnt/root/ failed: Invalid argument
Sep 03 13:00:32 <Wizzup> the same for all mmcblkXX devices
Sep 03 13:00:34 <KotCzarny> does dd </dev/mmcblk0 >/tmp/ppp count=1 work?
Sep 03 13:01:23 <Wizzup> yes
Sep 03 13:01:45 <Wizzup> and it is just not zeroes
Sep 03 13:01:48 <Wizzup> not just*
Sep 03 13:02:50 <KotCzarny> try adding -t vfat or -t ext4 ?
Sep 03 13:03:04 <KotCzarny> and -o ro just in case
Sep 03 13:05:45 <Wizzup> will after the reboot
Sep 03 13:06:05 <KotCzarny> also i wonder if this is related: [    6.973480] LUN: removable file: (no medium)
Sep 03 13:10:32 <buZz> hiya Wizzup :)
Sep 03 13:15:34 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: total pebcak
Sep 03 13:15:36 <Wizzup> will explain in a bit
Sep 03 13:15:45 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 03 13:15:54 <KotCzarny> good thing it works
Sep 03 13:16:11 <Wizzup> not yet
Sep 03 13:16:18 <Wizzup> but I didn't  cat arch/arm/boot/zImage arch/arm/boot/dts/omap3-n900.dtb > zImage  
Sep 03 13:16:21 <Wizzup> after a make
Sep 03 13:16:26 <Wizzup> was using old kernel
Sep 03 13:16:29 <Wizzup> with no ext4 support still
Sep 03 13:17:57 <KotCzarny> but vfat should work anyway
Sep 03 13:18:52 <KotCzarny> maybe driver just caches first 512kB of the device
Sep 03 13:20:16 <Wizzup> works!!!
Sep 03 13:20:21 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 03 13:20:22 <Wizzup> awesomesauce
Sep 03 13:20:25 <Wizzup> I am such an idiot
Sep 03 13:20:51 <KotCzarny> well, since you've fixed it, your not such an idiot
Sep 03 13:20:55 <KotCzarny> *you're
Sep 03 13:20:59 <Wizzup> the hint came from cat /proc/partitions
Sep 03 13:21:01 <Wizzup> had no ext4
Sep 03 13:21:04 <Wizzup> typed uname -a
Sep 03 13:21:07 <Wizzup> saw it was from 2 days ago
Sep 03 13:21:28 <KotCzarny> yeah, -t ext4
Sep 03 13:22:42 <Wizzup> that was not required in the end
Sep 03 13:22:44 <Wizzup> the -t ext4
Sep 03 13:23:07 <KotCzarny> yeah, but could explicitely tell you its not compiled in
Sep 03 13:26:12 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: yep, it did
Sep 03 14:19:52 <Wizzup> also works without initrd 
Sep 03 14:23:14 <KotCzarny> cool
Sep 03 14:23:20 <Wizzup> ! :) 
Sep 03 14:23:25 <Wizzup> wifi works too
Sep 03 14:30:18 <Vajb> pff 34th move checkmate
Sep 03 14:30:28 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 03 14:30:50 <Vajb> soon i will start to keep record
Sep 03 14:31:32 <Vajb> then i can be happy for breaking moves record :)
Sep 03 14:35:01 <Ras_Older> Oh ffs my N900's battery is really starting to die. 1½ hours unused in my pocket and the charge had went steadily to zero according to BatteryGraph.. Should I now order that monster battery or just external portable battery pack :D
Sep 03 14:36:47 <KotCzarny> maybe something was running in the bg?
Sep 03 14:36:51 <Ras_Older> http://www.mugenbattery.com/mugen-power-extended-capacity-battery-2400mah-for-nokia-n900/ well dunno that is bit pricey for my liking
Sep 03 14:36:58 <KotCzarny> ~polarcell
Sep 03 14:36:59 <infobot> well, polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement
Sep 03 14:37:36 <Wizzup> +1 for those
Sep 03 14:37:48 <Wizzup> Bought about 5 of those
Sep 03 14:37:50 <Wizzup> polarcell is good
Sep 03 14:38:01 <Ras_Older> ah and its local brand too :'D
Sep 03 14:55:05 <charlie79> hello :)
Sep 03 15:25:02 <Wizzup> Luke-Jr: I have a mainline kernel (4.1.0-rc4 from pali's repo) running gentoo on my n900 atm
Sep 03 15:25:10 <Wizzup> Going to look at your wiki page later and see if I can get gprs and stuff to work
Sep 03 15:25:22 <bencoh> pali's repo is not mainline
Sep 03 15:26:07 <Wizzup> It's close to mainline
Sep 03 15:26:13 <Wizzup> But you're right.
Sep 03 15:28:24 <Luke-Jr> Wizzup: cool. seems that may be the only viable way to do Gentoo soon
Sep 03 15:28:40 <Luke-Jr> Wizzup: my concern is that I don't want to lose full Maemo functioning :/
Sep 03 15:28:43 <Wizzup> I mean, I don't compile on the n900 (I have ARM machines that I can just chroot into the n900 sd card)
Sep 03 15:28:49 <Wizzup> Luke-Jr: this is on a sd card
Sep 03 15:28:51 <Wizzup> maemo still works fine
Sep 03 15:29:03 <Wizzup> (although admittedly I am using a spare n900)
Sep 03 15:29:05 <Luke-Jr> Wizzup: with the 4.1 kernel?
Sep 03 15:29:11 <Wizzup> yes
Sep 03 15:29:27 <Luke-Jr> even GPRS, voice calls, etc?
Sep 03 15:29:59 <Wizzup> I need to test that. In theory it should work.
Sep 03 15:30:22 <Wizzup> I mean, I got it booting only just now. Wifi works. usb gadgets work.
Sep 03 15:30:33 <Wizzup> I first want to get usb host to work, then I will look at gprs and stuff.
Sep 03 15:31:16 <Sicelo> hehe, Wizzup & Luke-Jr aren't on the same page afaict ..
Sep 03 15:31:37 <Sicelo> Wizzup: you're saying your Maemo is working with 4.1 kernel? 100%?
Sep 03 15:31:45 <Wizzup> No.
Sep 03 15:31:48 <Wizzup> I am not using maemo at all.
Sep 03 15:31:51 <Wizzup> I said gentoo was booting
Sep 03 15:31:51 <Sicelo> :)
Sep 03 15:31:59 <Luke-Jr> [15:28:51] <Wizzup> maemo still works fine
Sep 03 15:32:01 <Wizzup> There is also maemo on the device, that still works fine.
Sep 03 15:32:08 <Wizzup> Yes... but not with that kernel
Sep 03 15:32:11 <Wizzup> I mean, I have not even tried
Sep 03 15:32:12 <Wizzup> But I doubt t.
Sep 03 15:32:17 <Wizzup> doubt it
Sep 03 15:32:22 <Wizzup> All /sys entries etc are different
Sep 03 15:32:27 <Wizzup> Let alone that 3d accel probably doesn't work
Sep 03 15:32:35 <Wizzup> I don't think maemo has a graceful fallback for that
Sep 03 15:32:47 <Wizzup> I plan to write my own ui
Sep 03 15:33:45 <Sicelo> you want usb host in gentoo?
Sep 03 15:34:11 <Luke-Jr> Wizzup: I want to be able to chroot maemo->gentoo. Which means Maemo needs to work 100% in whatever kernel I update to.
Sep 03 15:34:59 <Wizzup> ah, yeah, I don't care about that
Sep 03 15:35:04 <Wizzup> Sicelo: yes, I want to get the usb host to work
Sep 03 15:35:08 <Wizzup> (at some point)
Sep 03 15:38:47 <Pali> hi, sry but I do not have time now... nor in next three weeks
Sep 03 15:43:03 <Wizzup> Pali: ah, no worries, I do not think I need your time :) 
Sep 03 15:43:08 <Wizzup> I'm just happy with 4.1.0 booting
Sep 03 15:43:45 <Pali> if you find some bugs, feel free to write patches and send them to specific linux kernel mailing list
Sep 03 15:44:16 <Wizzup> ack
Sep 03 16:22:22 <DocScrutinizer05> Ras_Older: BatteryGraph? tztztz. The tool that shows how it depletes the battery?
Sep 03 16:26:50 <DocScrutinizer05> Luke-Jr: ((Which means Maemo needs to work 100% in whatever kernel I update to.)) I don't know of a *single* OS that is capable to do that. Let alone maemo which has closed blobs
Sep 03 16:28:12 <DocScrutinizer05> actually I highly doubnt a Gentoo compiled to work on a 4.x kernel would happily work on a 2.x kernel, and vice versa
Sep 03 16:28:36 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm almost absolutely sure it won't
Sep 03 16:30:35 <Luke-Jr> DocScrutinizer05: as long as you don't go beyond glibc 2.19, it will
Sep 03 16:30:44 <DocScrutinizer05> you *might* be able to create a unified rootfs when you have two particular kernel APIs that you want to make work in that (or out of that) OS. Linux is pretty flexible in that regard. A lot of work but can be done. Generic "works with all kernels" however: no way!
Sep 03 16:33:24 <DocScrutinizer05> kernel devels have an annoying habit to never keep e.g. /sys/* and /dev/* paths stable
Sep 03 16:33:56 <DocScrutinizer05> and for sure there's more than just that which you need to take care of
Sep 03 16:34:54 <DocScrutinizer05> and then there's X11 and all the freedesktop.org stuff on top of that
Sep 03 16:35:51 <DocScrutinizer05> honestly kexec is your best bet
Sep 03 16:44:13 <DocScrutinizer05> Ras_Older: use zzztop!
Sep 03 16:45:48 <DocScrutinizer05> and even before that, use simple top to see which process gogs your CPU. Make sure your WLAN doesn't search for APs constantly. Stop resp quit all processes that constantly chat with internet (like skyhost aka skype)
Sep 03 16:46:01 <DocScrutinizer05> s/gogs/hogs/
Sep 03 16:46:02 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: and even before that, use simple top to see which process hogs your CPU. Make sure your WLAN doesn't search for APs constantly. Stop resp quit all processes that constantly chat with internet (like skyhost aka skype)
Sep 03 16:46:57 <DocScrutinizer05> make sure your USB isn't spinning busy in detecting attached hosts, or worse itself is trying to do hostmode
Sep 03 16:47:32 <DocScrutinizer05> make sure you don't have constant audio streams that stream silence to the soundcard all the time
Sep 03 16:48:11 <DocScrutinizer05> since that keeps CPU busy and amplifiers and mixer and I2S active
Sep 03 16:49:18 <DocScrutinizer05> close all browser windows since they nowadays *always* have some crappy JS that constantly hogs CPU even when the canvas isn't visible (aka app in background)
Sep 03 16:51:03 <DocScrutinizer05> some even have youtube-alike movies embedded, often for ads, which constantly do internet traffic which can cost a *lot* of battery, depending on your RAT (2G, 3G, WLAN, in no particular order)
Sep 03 16:51:27 <KotCzarny> audio is easily detectably in top
Sep 03 16:51:34 <KotCzarny> as it churns the pulseaudio
Sep 03 16:51:51 <KotCzarny> *detectable
Sep 03 18:57:18 <Ras_Older> DocScrutinizer05: Thank you for the information! I'll try to monitor the situation without BatteryGraph next.
Sep 03 18:57:58 <DocScrutinizer05> Ras_Older: lots of applets are known to be very poorly designed and hogging your battery
Sep 03 18:58:29 <DocScrutinizer05> and prolly 2/3 of battery monitoring apps are actually the hugest drain for battery
Sep 03 19:00:19 <DocScrutinizer05> an app that displays a graph on wallpaper or in window and updates that graph 10 times per second even when not visible is clearly something that should get nuked from all devices and repositories
Sep 03 19:01:21 <DocScrutinizer05> there are a stunning scary lot of such fubar applets and apps
Sep 03 19:02:16 <DocScrutinizer05> weather apps that re-fetch the data from internet every time they gain focus resp visibility
Sep 03 19:02:46 <DocScrutinizer05> clock and batterygraph apps that refresh with a 10Hz timer
Sep 03 19:03:06 <buZz> awesome :P
Sep 03 19:03:10 <buZz> hehe
Sep 03 19:03:54 <DocScrutinizer05> and then there's all that "P2P" stuff that does a lot of internet chatting for no *good* reason and thus cuts through your battery by keeping the modem TX active all the time
Sep 03 19:09:35 <KotCzarny> battery-eye is nice
Sep 03 19:24:46 <DocScrutinizer05> "nice" is not a relevant parameter here
Sep 03 19:25:40 <DocScrutinizer05> not even as function cal ;-)
Sep 03 19:31:01 <Sicelo> you in-niced his connection!
Sep 03 19:31:15 <Sicelo> s/in/un/
Sep 03 19:31:16 <infobot> Sicelo meant: you un-niced his connection!
Sep 03 21:26:55 <buZz> sweet, someone made a entire videoseries of 'fresh n8x0 pimping'
Sep 03 21:26:56 <buZz> :P
Sep 03 21:27:10 <buZz> cloning os to SD etc
Sep 03 21:27:40 <buZz> on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
Sep 03 22:00:15 <mtnman> elho
Sep 03 22:02:51 <stryngs> hi
Sep 03 22:02:59 <mtnman> whassup?
Sep 03 22:03:07 <stryngs> working 
Sep 03 22:03:08 <stryngs> u?
Sep 03 22:03:29 <mtnman> reinstalling cssu after reflashing
Sep 03 22:03:38 <stryngs> f-u-n
Sep 03 22:03:53 <mtnman> F-U-N, even
Sep 03 22:30:17 <DocScrutinizer05> mtnman: restoring a BM backup is prolly faster than reinstalling CSSU
Sep 03 22:31:07 <mtnman> what is bm backup?  it doesn't sound so good :D
Sep 03 22:31:14 <DocScrutinizer05> ~bm
Sep 03 22:31:14 <infobot> i guess backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975
Sep 03 22:32:11 <mtnman> well i already did restore my backup menu... but the cssu source didn't show up in application mgr
Sep 03 22:32:29 <mtnman> anyhow, cssu is now installing... all is well.
Sep 03 22:36:31 <Sicelo> looks like N900 is thicker than N810 .. wondering why
Sep 03 22:37:03 <DocScrutinizer05> umm, a number of reasons, mostly prolly the main camera module
Sep 03 22:37:40 <Sicelo> ah, that one makes sense :)
Sep 03 22:38:06 <Sicelo> because cellmo shouldn't really add thickness in this particular case at least
Sep 03 22:39:12 <Sicelo> i find that my interest in Nokia N810 is growing. pity i don't see any in local markets
Sep 03 23:23:41 <sixwheeledbeast> Well i would think cellular would take a fair amount of space
Sep 04 00:01:18 <DocScrutinizer05> real estate on PCB yes, height no
Sep 04 00:23:43 <Oksanaa> find: unrecognized: -exec
Sep 04 00:40:56 <Oksanaa> I am attempting to build a package on-device, and get error: find: unrecognized: -exec
Sep 04 02:16:44 <Oksanaa> find: unrecognized: -exec What is that? During dpkg-buildpackage. And having source code relying on scratchbox so that it cannot be built on device is ugly
Sep 04 02:17:04 <Oksanaa> Is there such a thing as GNU find, and where to find it?
Sep 04 02:24:38 <Oksanaa> findutils conflict busybox. going for findutils-gnu
Sep 04 02:37:55 * DocScrutinizer05 has a deja-vu
Sep 04 02:38:14 <DocScrutinizer05> Oksana: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#proper_bash_and_tools
Sep 04 02:40:22 <DocScrutinizer05> Oksanaa: ^^^
Sep 04 02:41:39 <DocScrutinizer05> [2015-09-03 Thu 04:58:36] <-- Oksanaa (~chatzilla@Maemo/community/council/Wikiwide) has left this server (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.1/20100330163407]).
Sep 04 02:41:40 <DocScrutinizer05> [2015-09-03 Thu 04:59:09] <DocScrutinizer05> o.O
Sep 04 02:41:42 <DocScrutinizer05> [2015-09-03 Thu 05:04:54] <DocScrutinizer05> Oksana: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#proper_bash_and_tools
Sep 04 02:46:17 <Oksanaa> Thank you :-) I am too lazy yet to install all the bash and tools, so going on the have-to-have basis...
Sep 04 02:46:45 <Oksanaa> My /home space is full to extent I cannot check email (aka 10MB free)
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