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Sep 10 08:40:59 <chem|st> stryngs: what is your question exactly? For your packages and /opt, iirc there used to be optification scripts to have $data opted, those you can just upload to extras-devel to test normal deployment and dependency issues, then you promote to extras-testing where people test your stuff and then it gets promoted some day to extras...
Sep 10 08:41:35 <chem|st> I just returned from vacation with 600+ emails to walk through
Sep 10 08:41:40 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 10 08:41:48 <bencoh> :]
Sep 10 08:41:50 <KotCzarny> select all, delete?
Sep 10 08:42:01 <KotCzarny> [x] yes  [ ] no
Sep 10 08:42:53 <chem|st> KotCzarny: some of them reoccure if I do not answer ;)
Sep 10 08:43:09 <KotCzarny> that means they be important then ;)
Sep 10 08:44:28 <KotCzarny> ok, anyone got some idea how to chip off piece of magnet to fit in place of missing one in n900's cover?
Sep 10 08:44:33 <chem|st> I already deleted most notification stuff
Sep 10 08:46:11 <KotCzarny> hmm, maybe i just can use piece of steel and magnetize it
Sep 10 08:46:18 <chem|st> KotCzarny: isn't it that T shaped part next to the camera cover?
Sep 10 08:46:38 <KotCzarny> chemist: its the part under the foot
Sep 10 08:46:41 <chem|st> how did you remove it?
Sep 10 08:47:10 <KotCzarny> i bought 'broken' n900 very cheap (~25usd) which turned out to simply be missing that little bit of magnet
Sep 10 08:47:11 <chem|st> ah the stand's magnet...
Sep 10 08:47:51 <chem|st> I have a 2m coil of magnet band that is about the same thickness
Sep 10 08:48:33 <KotCzarny> im considering chipping off some magnet or just buying replacement cover (~3usd)
Sep 10 08:49:22 <chem|st> KotCzarny: go for the new cover... $3 isn't worth the hassle
Sep 10 08:49:49 <KotCzarny> it's the wait
Sep 10 08:50:04 <KotCzarny> i'm always trying to fix stuff anyway
Sep 10 08:50:12 <KotCzarny> even if i buy replacements
Sep 10 09:15:00 <vectis> KotCzarny: try a craft shop for magnetic sheets, you can get it over here for diy fridge magnets.
Sep 10 09:49:24 <zGrr> moin :)
Sep 10 09:57:34 <KotCzarny> vectis, if i find such thing locally, yeah, otherwise chipping magnet or steel magnetized piece is max i'm gonna invest in it
Sep 10 10:02:13 <KotCzarny> from my tests closing magnetized screedriver works, so there is hope magnetic field doesnt have to be strong
Sep 10 10:14:44 <KotCzarny> ok, chip is quite big, but works
Sep 10 10:14:53 <KotCzarny> it will do till the cover arrives
Sep 10 12:36:57 <ceene> i'd happily pay 25usd for a second n900 to tinker with
Sep 10 12:36:57 <ceene> :)
Sep 10 12:37:13 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 10 12:37:21 <ceene> do you have one?
Sep 10 12:37:22 <ceene> :P
Sep 10 12:37:37 <KotCzarny> there is another for ~34usd right now
Sep 10 12:37:49 <KotCzarny> browse local classifieds?
Sep 10 12:39:23 <ceene> 65EUR Vendo Nokia N900 y va para whatsapp... precio NO NEGOCIABLE
Sep 10 12:39:25 <ceene> hehe
Sep 10 12:39:34 <ceene> i could always break yappari and told him no! whatsapp won't work!
Sep 10 12:39:45 <ceene> i'll pay 30EUR tops
Sep 10 12:41:13 <ceene> s/told/tell/
Sep 10 12:41:15 <ceene> :P
Sep 10 12:41:30 <KotCzarny> ceene, thing with classifieds is that you have to monitor it every few days
Sep 10 14:02:50 <merlin1991> re speedyham, it's part of cssu-t since 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo10 (24.12.2014) 
Sep 10 14:38:02 <DocScrutinizer05> or http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb
Sep 10 14:38:46 <DocScrutinizer05> merlin1991: watch out to not give "wrong answer", he asked about cssu stable
Sep 10 14:39:38 <DocScrutinizer05> (saying this since this guy is a pest to prove you did something wrong, even when you simply want to help him)
Sep 10 14:42:43 <DocScrutinizer05> first he didn't know at all what "et al" means, 5 minutes later he tried to correct me about me using "et al" wrong
Sep 10 14:44:58 <DocScrutinizer05> no matter what, anyway I gave wrong answer to him, that's certain
Sep 10 14:45:33 <DocScrutinizer05> I hate when somebody tells I'm wrong when I'm not
Sep 10 14:46:18 <DocScrutinizer05> I love when somebody asks "are you sure" when I'm wrong
Sep 10 14:47:17 <kerio> you're wrong
Sep 10 14:47:31 <DocScrutinizer05> no i'm BAD
Sep 10 14:47:36 <kerio> are you sure?
Sep 10 14:47:40 <kerio> :3
Sep 10 14:47:46 <DocScrutinizer05> hehehe, not really
Sep 10 14:48:59 <DocScrutinizer05> sometimes I think I might be bad, but then... more often then not I notice I'm not as bad as many others
Sep 10 14:50:16 <Vajb> bad to the bone
Sep 10 15:43:26 <Wizzup> Any clue if it would be possible to use the sim card slot/reader in the n900 as a general purpose card reader?
Sep 10 15:43:35 <Wizzup> Or is it too coupled with the modem?
Sep 10 16:32:02 <ceene> so it seems i'm gonna need to implement textsecure into yappari
Sep 10 16:32:27 <ceene> i don't want to :( i don't have that much time nor energy
Sep 10 19:42:02 <DocScrutinizer05> Wizzup: it's connected *only* to the modem
Sep 10 20:51:35 * Sicelo has just joined his first LUG :)
Sep 10 20:53:09 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer05: oh well
Sep 10 20:53:33 <DocScrutinizer05> taht's life. Get a Neo900 ;-)
Sep 10 20:53:37 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer05: wanted to use a openphp smartcard
Sep 10 20:53:43 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer05: I ... ordered one :)
Sep 10 20:53:49 <DocScrutinizer05> \o/
Sep 10 20:53:53 <Wizzup> openpgp*
Sep 10 20:54:10 <DocScrutinizer05> there you get dual SIM slot and either of both can also get used as smartcard reader
Sep 10 20:54:53 <Wizzup> awesome....
Sep 10 20:55:04 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed, isn't it :-)
Sep 10 20:55:05 <Wizzup> if I have spare monies I may go for a second neon
Sep 10 20:58:29 <L29Ah> do you like a playlist-based player?
Sep 10 20:59:52 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, usually not really
Sep 10 21:00:26 <DocScrutinizer05> who maintains playlists? there's just one playlist I use: the queue
Sep 10 21:00:57 <DocScrutinizer05> however YMMV
Sep 10 21:03:04 <Sicelo> L29Ah: try oscp
Sep 10 21:03:05 <DocScrutinizer05> I find it highly annoying that most players don't have convenient and smart management of the queue. Like not only removing songs from queue but alsi inserting, or moving a song up/down in queue. Or setting a stop-point after a song (*in* a song?) with either hard pasue or fadeout
Sep 10 21:08:41 <Sicelo> DocScrutinizer05: do you have an example of one that does all that?
Sep 10 21:09:02 <Wizzup> mpd
Sep 10 21:09:15 <DocScrutinizer05> err, amarok I think did most of it, back when it was OK
Sep 10 21:11:32 <DocScrutinizer05> amaroK sucks in that it never empties the queue after a song has been played (or after the 12th song after that song starts playing)
Sep 10 21:12:15 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, it's just a hit of a button to clear complete playlist, but often that's also not what you want to do
Sep 10 21:12:41 <erlehmann> ; apt-rdepends amarok >[2] /dev/null | grep -c 'systemd'
Sep 10 21:12:42 <erlehmann> 14
Sep 10 21:19:25 <Sicelo> i wonder if moving song up/down could be added into OMP
Sep 10 22:35:46 <sixwheeledbeast> I'd like to see an Artist play all button 
Sep 10 22:55:25 <Oksana> (magnet missing in n900's cover?) My magnet separated from the leg, but still is magnetically-attached to the other side. So the leg waves around freely which is a tad annoying. I am not sure which glue would be strong enough (in tiny quantities) to put this tiny magnet back in place.
Sep 10 22:58:33 <L29Ah> cyanoacrylate should do the job
Sep 10 22:58:41 <drathir> Oksana: mine soldered by normal fast one but needed a lot of patience...
Sep 10 22:59:22 <svetlana> Hm. I didn't realise one can use a soldering process against magnet and plastic.
Sep 10 22:59:23 <drathir> bc needed to clean both parts...
Sep 10 22:59:55 <drathir> svetlana: soldering mean put together/catch together...
Sep 10 23:01:55 <jabis> same superglue they use to stich your face if you accidentally bump into a fist :D (some model airplane superglue without the additives that melt plastic)
Sep 10 23:02:03 <drathir> and will be really useful tooth-pick and long nails ^^
Sep 10 23:02:21 * Oksana doesn't exactly know what is "normal fast glue", but will try to do it... Not the most urgent thing to do. But given how any new phone will arrive only in q4/2015 (optimistically) or q1/2016 , I have to maintain this one in working condition until then
Sep 10 23:02:45 <drathir> yea superglue one...
Sep 10 23:03:01 <drathir> Oksana: ^
Sep 10 23:03:46 <drathir> Oksana: not use 2part one/mixed ones glues...s
Sep 10 23:04:32 <jabis> one drop, spread with a toothpick, stick the magnet, voila
Sep 10 23:05:23 <jabis> also let it stick for some good hours before throwing it into the floor etc
Sep 10 23:05:48 <Oksana> Should I put some pressure onto it, while it is drying-sticking?
Sep 10 23:07:46 <jabis> can't think of anything that wouldn't press out the adhesive out from inbetween the elements, but surely something to keep the magnet from moving and in contact with the glue won't hurt
Sep 10 23:08:08 <drathir> first glue place by tooth-pick on the cover plasyic part... i toyched then keeping magnetic part at nail... when it touch the glue will keep to plastic need to sacrifice nail and take too much glue wich go out by clean tooth-pick...
Sep 10 23:08:45 <jabis> what drathir said ^
Sep 10 23:09:37 <drathir> and at plastic not really nuch glue needed enough is touch the place bt tooth-pick a little smashed in glue...
Sep 10 23:10:34 <drathir> Oksana: inportant not put directly the glue to plastic bc that could end naughty things happen story ;;p
Sep 10 23:13:26 <drathir> Oksana: sfter yo cleaned edges from glue and wait few seconds You can touch place big finger carefully and softly if not sticky try to close to check if fit correctly...
Sep 10 23:19:43 <drathir> yea the teared notes paper and/or handkerchief good have for energency purposes...
Sep 11 00:13:58 <DocScrutinizer05> Oksana: the magnet is in the cover, the leg only has a non-magnetic steel patch
Sep 11 00:14:59 <DocScrutinizer05> svetlana: you cannot solder magnets, they will lose their magnetism at that temperature
Sep 11 00:17:17 <DocScrutinizer05> ((Should I put some pressure onto it, while it is drying-sticking?)) with cyanoacrylate (aka superglue) no
Sep 11 00:21:31 <Oksana> Okay, steel patch (still, I am lucky that it does not get lost; it has lost some of its blackness, but otherwise it stays not-lost for weeks)
Sep 11 00:22:28 <DocScrutinizer05> apply some small amount of cyanoacrylate to the cleaned cavity where the magnet (or in your case the steel patch) belongs. within 20 s max place the small object (steel patch) into place. Do not move after 0.5s, so you better make damn sure to place it into right position on first take. use some scotch tape (sticky side) to hold the small object, this has two benefits: you can properly grab the whole thing, and superglue won't stick to 
Sep 11 00:22:29 <DocScrutinizer05> the scotchtape glue so easy removal of scotchtape
Sep 11 00:24:10 <DocScrutinizer05> apply some moderate pressure to keep object in place, for maybe 10 or 20s. Really moderate or even gentle! Do not move object while glue cures. cyanoacrylate cures with air humidity, so blowing at the whole thing will speed up curing
Sep 11 00:25:34 <DocScrutinizer05> don't be mistaken, even superglue takes several minutes before it reaches final strength of joint
Sep 11 00:26:08 <DocScrutinizer05> so don't remove the scotchtape too early or you'll pull out the magnet or whatever object with it
Sep 11 01:03:37 <jabis> DocScrutinizer05: you really instruct to the tee :) Too early for such a feat here in Thailand, but I bet people other than me appreciate your input as much ^^ Next time you come to Chiang Mai, I'll buy you a beer :>
Sep 11 01:04:01 <jabis> (or your preferred beverage)
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