**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 12 02:59:58 2015 Sep 12 03:40:38 Indeed, just jumped from 76% to 100%. Sep 12 06:34:00 heh Sep 12 06:34:03 im addicted Sep 12 06:34:07 just got another n900 Sep 12 06:34:09 for 15$ Sep 12 06:34:24 a bit beaten but seems working Sep 12 06:35:37 ~flashing Sep 12 06:35:37 maemo-flashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Sep 12 06:35:45 ~combined Sep 12 06:35:45 rumour has it, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 12 06:37:36 ~flasher Sep 12 06:37:37 i guess flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Sep 12 07:14:28 * Maxdamantus will probably buy a second one when/if one appears on his country's local site for that sort of thing. Sep 12 07:14:59 it looks like one might appear every month or two, but I haven't been actively looking. Sep 12 07:22:41 maxd: i'm getting ones just from such site Sep 12 07:23:31 I just added an email alert thing for them earlier today. Sep 12 07:23:38 :) Sep 12 07:23:57 the expired listings showed one sold in apparently fairly good condition about a month ago. Sep 12 07:24:27 somehow in poland there are more n900s for sale than on ebay Sep 12 07:25:05 I also happen to have saved the webpage for the previous sale of that device. Sep 12 07:25:35 in December or January .. so the guy who bought it there was the one that sold it a month ago. Sep 12 07:25:41 :) Sep 12 07:26:13 but in December and January I was unemployed, so .. Sep 12 07:27:45 put some cash in a sealed envelope just for such occasion? Sep 12 07:28:57 which one? unemployment, or N900 availability? Sep 12 07:29:15 now that you mentioned, both Sep 12 07:29:24 two envelopes then Sep 12 07:30:24 Well, I don't think I usually spend a lot anyway, so leaving it in the bank would be about as effective. Sep 12 07:35:59 wow, john decoded pass in less than 0.1s Sep 12 07:38:29 modem seems to be f*cked up. still, for a 15usd it will make great dev device Sep 12 07:44:49 also, this one also has 'device on' notification enabled Sep 12 07:44:54 wonder if its default? Sep 12 08:24:21 i don't think that's the default Sep 12 08:24:39 let's see what people talk about on the yapari thread today... Sep 12 08:24:47 how many more banned people are there going to be? Sep 12 08:25:09 it was on on 2 devices, so might be, gonna flash it and i'll check the checbox Sep 12 08:25:18 at least i don't have to pay one cent to each banned person... Sep 12 08:25:36 that's strange, but it may be Sep 12 08:25:44 i don't want a permanentely on light Sep 12 08:25:47 but to each its own Sep 12 08:26:18 its not permanent Sep 12 08:26:21 1/10 of the time Sep 12 08:26:50 ~vanilla Sep 12 08:26:51 methinks vanilla is just plain old up & down & up & down & up & down & up & down & ooooh!, or the finest of the flavors Sep 12 08:26:54 hmm Sep 12 08:27:14 does combined contain vanilla? Sep 12 08:27:26 i should think so Sep 12 08:36:00 n900 in idle without gsm/wifi takes about 5.4mA Sep 12 08:36:51 ale przy odeslaniu od razu nie trzeba Sep 12 08:37:00 that's about right .. i think i did get a bit lower though Sep 12 08:37:19 how low? Sep 12 08:37:51 i've seen 4 a couple of times Sep 12 08:45:50 Erasing CMT: 98%CMT flashing failed Sep 12 08:45:50 sorry, flashing RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (NOLO, rootfs, modem-fw) failed with errorcode 0 Sep 12 08:45:52 huh Sep 12 08:46:42 ups Sep 12 08:46:57 just try again Sep 12 08:47:06 will do, gotta run now Sep 12 09:10:15 Damn it. Can't get my USB hub to work again after trying to remove the LED :( Sep 12 09:10:25 * Maxdamantus should've stayed with the put-lots-of-tape-over-it method. Sep 12 09:12:35 * Maxdamantus wonders why someone would put such a bright LED on a USB device anyway. Sep 12 09:12:46 unless it were a USB torch. Sep 12 09:13:15 lol Sep 12 09:13:17 maybe the led was cheaper? Sep 12 09:14:12 * Maxdamantus just made a longer cable for it too Sep 12 09:15:09 Will have to go back to using the USB ports on the ethernet cable going into my case. Sep 12 09:36:10 does anybody know about QSharedPointer? Sep 12 09:36:30 QT5's QSharedPointer has a method named reset(), which QT4 has not Sep 12 09:36:52 I don't know if I can replace that with something that would make the same Sep 12 10:04:53 Maxdamantus: next time put the tape on the inside Sep 12 10:06:34 I did put the tape on the outside. Sep 12 10:06:37 I just wanted a better solution. Sep 12 10:06:56 I had to use about eight layers of electrical tape before it became sufficiently dim. Sep 12 10:07:19 oh, on the inside. Sep 12 10:07:26 or mount the hub on the underside of your desk (if you don't need to move it around): https://eternallybored.org/imgs/comp/usb3.jpg Sep 12 10:07:40 That probably wouldn't work. The LED was sticking through a hole. Sep 12 10:07:48 :p Sep 12 10:07:58 I suspect I should've just bent the LED off. Sep 12 10:08:11 I probably overheated something by soldering it off. Sep 12 10:19:44 okay Sep 12 10:19:45 so Sep 12 10:20:01 I think I've been able to compile libaxolotl to run on maemo Sep 12 10:20:29 I'm confindent on everything except in one change Sep 12 10:23:57 wonky name for a library. what does it do? Sep 12 10:24:23 it implements textsecure :) Sep 12 10:28:46 * Maxdamantus has now bought a Polarcell battery. Sep 12 10:29:02 * Maxdamantus didn't realise it'd probably have free international shipping. Sep 12 10:29:18 to be honest Sep 12 10:29:25 maybe the best thing we could do with yappari Sep 12 10:29:30 is to port it to use yowsup Sep 12 10:29:41 it's very well maintained, already supports textsecure Sep 12 10:30:36 Does Debian not distribute a whatsapp client? Sep 12 10:30:45 if it did, presumably you could just use that. Sep 12 10:31:14 debian distributes yowsup itself Sep 12 10:31:24 Ah. Sep 12 10:31:39 but it's only a python library with a simple CLI Sep 12 10:31:40 debian does yowsup? Sep 12 10:31:42 * Sicelo checks Sep 12 10:31:44 I'd just run that then, probably in a chroot. Sep 12 10:31:51 though I've never used whatsapp. Sep 12 10:31:57 as a last resort it's useful Sep 12 10:32:01 but it's pretty arcane Sep 12 10:32:08 yappari does a lot of nice things, like media, audio, etc Sep 12 10:32:14 that's right Sep 12 10:32:16 Apparently I have a voicemale from it. Sep 12 10:32:24 people like to share lots of photos and videos and all that Sep 12 10:32:27 8960 N + Sep 12 WhatsAppService New voicemessage: 9:57AM Sep 12 10:32:53 since there are qt bindings for python Sep 12 10:33:04 maybe it's possible to implement a brand new gui for yowsup Sep 12 10:33:22 but that's a lot of work Sep 12 10:33:32 i don't know if i'm willing to do that Sep 12 10:33:56 Yapasup! Sep 12 10:34:18 there's no need to rewrite the UI itself, as it is pretty much contained on .ui files Sep 12 10:34:20 did you sneeze? Sep 12 10:34:37 dunno, that's the name of the nonexistant maemo GUI for yowsup :P Sep 12 10:34:39 Yapasup! Sep 12 10:34:42 lol Sep 12 10:34:49 :D Sep 12 10:48:05 Heh, the order confirmation is all in German. Sep 12 10:49:02 * Maxdamantus hopes they really did intend to indicate that the free shipping option was international. Sep 12 10:52:19 voicemale huh Sep 12 10:52:31 I deleted that email. Sep 12 10:52:45 * Maxdamantus has never used whatsapp or registered for an account. Sep 12 11:00:05 lucky you Sep 12 11:00:48 will the current yappari ban me from whatsapp? Sep 12 11:00:51 i might decide to reinstall it Sep 12 11:02:44 if you don't create a new group it's improbable Sep 12 11:02:57 and if you create a new group we still don't know Sep 12 11:03:04 i'm waiting for someone brave enough to try it :) Sep 12 11:04:27 Reply: {"status":"fail","reason":"blocked"} Sep 12 11:04:33 that means i'm banned, doesn't it? Sep 12 11:04:34 :( Sep 12 11:04:52 Interesting statement on the main yappari post on TMO: “Yappari is event based so if your client is idle then it does absolutely nothing (no threads, no while(1) loops, etc). This is to maximize battery.” Sep 12 11:05:12 that's true Sep 12 11:05:18 event-based systems have a while loop somewhere. Sep 12 11:05:31 not necessarily Sep 12 11:06:00 the process may be completely sleeping Sep 12 11:06:09 and the kernel receive data from the network Sep 12 11:06:14 while(epoll(.., next_timer - current_time)) do_event(..) Sep 12 11:06:15 or a keyboard interrupt Sep 12 11:06:33 the key there is that it's a non cpu consuming block Sep 12 11:06:35 It's sleeping in exactly the same way that a thread waiting on IO is sleeping. Sep 12 11:06:39 ie, it's in the "S" state. Sep 12 11:06:41 i mean, well, there's a while of course Sep 12 11:06:48 as opposed to the "R" state. Sep 12 11:06:54 i guess the wording is not exactly right Sep 12 11:07:30 that's not my wording anyhow :P Sep 12 11:08:07 I do think event-based systems are more efficient, but that's only because scheduling tasks in the kernel is fairly expensive. Sep 12 11:08:53 if the process is basically not assigned any run time slot Sep 12 11:08:56 in Python at least (well, CPython) .. where I think "threads" correspond to LWTs. Sep 12 11:08:57 that process doesn't use cpu Sep 12 11:09:07 Of course, the process isn't in the "R" state. Sep 12 11:10:16 (threading in Python (again, possibly CPython) is a bit silly anyway, because of the GIL) Sep 12 11:10:36 yep Sep 12 11:20:30 06:04 < ceene> Reply: {"status":"fail","reason":"blocked"} Sep 12 11:20:33 yes, ban Sep 12 11:20:46 so do i write them and cry a little? Sep 12 11:20:58 i guess :) Sep 12 11:21:09 i've always just moved to another number :p Sep 12 11:24:13 and do you write to each of your contacts to tell them that? Sep 12 11:26:44 yeah. there aren't too many i use whatsapp with. that's why even when i'm totally without ... doesn't give me too much of a problem Sep 12 11:27:08 everyone knows me as the " Sep 12 11:27:20 "new-whatsapp-every-week" guy :D Sep 12 11:27:25 lol Sep 12 11:27:46 to be honest i also don't use it with too many people Sep 12 11:28:01 but last week though, a long lost friend of mine decided to write me through whatsapp Sep 12 11:28:13 i hadn't known anything of him since 10 years ago Sep 12 11:28:18 wow! Sep 12 11:28:28 i guess he wouldn't have written me if not that convenient Sep 12 11:28:46 writee to whatsapp for an unban :) Sep 12 11:30:31 yep, i'm charging an old android phone to fake that i'm using that Sep 12 12:24:54 ...so it turns out i couldn't register on talk.maemo.org because the nickname "ender" apparently stands for "spammer" Sep 12 12:27:19 haha Sep 12 15:49:27 so, is: Erasing CMT: 98%CMT flashing failed Sep 12 15:49:38 a sign of bad solder on modem chip? Sep 12 15:52:43 it sounds more like bad flash chip Sep 12 15:52:54 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1432920 Sep 12 15:53:35 this threads gives some hope that it might be just modem chip (rootfs flashed fine) Sep 12 15:53:53 you can always try booting Sep 12 15:53:57 if it boots... it was flashed Sep 12 15:54:13 right Sep 12 15:54:17 gotta check Sep 12 16:01:28 yeah, booted Sep 12 16:01:38 though cell functions dont work as before Sep 12 16:03:46 also, by default 'device on' led notification is off Sep 12 16:04:00 so it must be at least 2 users that chose to enable it manually Sep 12 16:08:03 ~cssu-t Sep 12 16:08:05 ~cssu-thumb Sep 12 16:08:06 i guess cssu-thumb is [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb Sep 12 16:46:43 hmm Sep 12 16:46:47 where is i2cget? Sep 12 16:59:00 repos? Sep 12 16:59:06 which ones? Sep 12 16:59:25 let me check on my deviced Sep 12 17:00:57 the standard ones :) Sep 12 17:01:01 um Sep 12 17:01:05 i2c-tools is the package name Sep 12 17:01:22 thanks Sep 12 17:01:38 i was trying to find i2cget not i2c Sep 12 17:15:03 well, so my car's battery is dead Sep 12 17:15:14 just one more thing dead this weekend Sep 12 17:15:44 :) Sep 12 17:16:03 i've bricked my car lol Sep 12 17:16:15 luckily its just battery Sep 12 17:16:51 i think so, it tries to do its thing and the headlights look pretty dim Sep 12 17:17:09 um Sep 12 17:17:22 dont try to start it when accu is too low Sep 12 17:17:35 it's been one month in which it has run for 30 km or so, and the battery is like 5 years old or so Sep 12 17:17:36 you can destroy lead plates inside Sep 12 17:17:45 ahm Sep 12 17:17:56 i think my car is indestructible Sep 12 17:17:59 could be too sulfury anyway Sep 12 17:18:04 it's 22 years old itself Sep 12 17:18:13 mine is 16yo Sep 12 17:18:25 almost an adult ;) Sep 12 17:18:57 got some skin condition tho (rust) Sep 12 17:20:31 mine is completely bent all over the doors Sep 12 17:20:39 too many unrepaired hits Sep 12 17:20:57 otherwise it semms to be fine Sep 12 17:20:57 learning to drive or unsafe road conditions? Sep 12 17:21:10 no, just an idiot Sep 12 17:21:36 and the accumulation of 10 years worth of small hits Sep 12 17:21:48 some while parking Sep 12 17:22:07 some while i was parked, i still don't know who was Sep 12 17:22:17 :) Sep 12 17:23:43 what cars are we talking about here? :) Sep 12 17:24:11 honda civic Sep 12 17:24:13 * Sicelo had a 20 year-old one .. then accident, now has a 16 year-old Sep 12 17:24:14 :) Sep 12 17:24:42 nice. Sep 12 17:24:44 those old cars can run long times, and its usually user's fault when they can't run no more Sep 12 17:25:07 nowadays cars are made to last only for guarantee period Sep 12 17:25:15 indeed. i like that i don't need to hook up a computer just to tell the car that i've changed brake pads .. wtf! Sep 12 17:25:24 :) Sep 12 17:26:16 mine is a 1993 ford mondeo Sep 12 17:26:28 trunk light goes off 'service required' Sep 12 17:27:14 but you guys in europe have MOT tests, and so on. do these cars still pass those? especially the 1993? Sep 12 17:27:29 what is a mot test? Sep 12 17:27:29 sure it does Sep 12 17:27:38 we don't have them this side :) Sep 12 17:27:47 MOT test .. something to do with emissions, etc. Sep 12 17:28:02 in poland all cars are required to pass some fitness tests, exhaust norms etc Sep 12 17:28:02 in spain it's called ITV inspeccion tecnica de vehiculos - technical inspection of vehicles Sep 12 17:28:15 przeglad okresowy Sep 12 17:28:16 :) Sep 12 17:28:38 I think there are taxes in france Sep 12 17:28:38 it must pass exhaus norms as well and minimal security tests Sep 12 17:28:49 lights, seatbelts, brakes, etc Sep 12 17:28:50 mechanical fitness and safety is also tested here, but not exhaust stuff Sep 12 17:28:52 yeah, breaks, suspension Sep 12 17:29:05 (unless they didnt pass the law, but iirc they did) Sep 12 17:29:33 i think it's more or less the same everywhere? Sep 12 17:29:38 at least in europe Sep 12 17:30:00 for cars the age of mine it's required yearly Sep 12 17:30:14 same here Sep 12 17:30:27 if it's new the first ITV is after 5 years Sep 12 17:30:36 in south africa it is only needed when ownership changes. in swaziland doesn't exist at all. no tests :p Sep 12 17:30:39 then after 2 years until it's 10yo Sep 12 17:30:43 but new cars are obliged for vendor tests Sep 12 17:30:49 which results in quite the same Sep 12 17:33:38 well, xfiles time! :P Sep 12 17:33:49 investigating car issue? :P Sep 12 17:34:05 i must watch all the series before january, when they broadcast the new series! Sep 12 17:36:14 in Finland a yearly test + you cannot tune up your car if it exceeds a certain amount of (a) parts changed [percentage] (b) excess of power compared to the stock model of most powerful vehicle of it's series, or (c) if it is a low emission engine you're tuning, you must make your vehicle go thru an expensive testing by the finnish government authorized inspection lab, for emissions :D Sep 12 17:37:18 ie. the same test they require of factories - and you pay even if they decline and get no data what was wrong Sep 12 17:38:54 (though I know live in Thailand, and my last car was a 1.4 toyota powered by an audi TT supercharged engine, so I'm not affected anymore x) Sep 12 17:39:46 supercharger ;) Sep 12 17:40:40 megasquirt controlled deathmachine - so turbocharger wouldda been an understatement Sep 12 17:40:48 :D Sep 12 17:40:54 haha, who died? Sep 12 17:41:11 clutch, and a piston Sep 12 17:41:25 * Sicelo drives a 1999 Mercedes Benz C230 Kompressor/supercharger Sep 12 17:41:49 nah - that's a turbocharger x) Sep 12 17:41:49 i don't "play" so much though, because then it gets thirsty, haha Sep 12 17:42:02 no. kompressor is a supercharger ;) Sep 12 17:42:15 only recently is mercedes doing turbos Sep 12 17:43:01 kompressor is german word for supercharger. don't know what germans call turbocharger Sep 12 17:44:05 kompressor macht f�r ein turbocharger, but yankees call their turbos supercharger (usually belt driven) while europeans call them turbos :) Sep 12 17:44:11 *achts Sep 12 17:44:17 with an em Sep 12 17:44:26 fix your encoding Sep 12 17:44:37 kompressor macht f�r ein [...] Sep 12 17:44:39 utf-8 Sep 12 17:44:45 nope Sep 12 17:44:53 well Sep 12 17:45:01 utf-8 is what you should be using Sep 12 17:45:05 idk what you sent Sep 12 17:45:43 um .. jabis .. what did you say? i'm not german haha .. only drive a german car :P Sep 12 17:45:50 kompressor macht für ein turbocharger Sep 12 17:46:11 kerio: umlaut. i saw it fine. problem is likely your side Sep 12 17:46:19 nope Sep 12 17:46:32 you saw it fine because your client is handling non-utf8 gracefully Sep 12 17:46:34 kerio: well it is, as well is my putty, so check your own client encoding :) Sep 12 17:47:15 jabis: resend it Sep 12 17:47:33 � as in ?+u as in uber Sep 12 17:48:23 (without umlauts the last one) Sep 12 17:48:54 eyup, non-utf8 Sep 12 17:49:08 Sicelo: that means that kompressor means by definition a turbocharger Sep 12 17:49:35 of course .. but, tell me the difference between the two :) Sep 12 17:49:39 kerio: you're the one that has recode issues :> Sep 12 17:49:48 jabis: you're the one not sending utf8, seriously Sep 12 17:49:57 a turbocharger typically works off the exhaust gases Sep 12 17:50:13 a supercharger is belt-driven, typically. Sep 12 17:50:18 which one was yours? Sep 12 17:50:55 i thought the point of a turbocharger was to use part of the wasted energy in the exhaust Sep 12 17:50:59 no Sep 12 17:51:08 wouldn't it be counterproductive if it's still fed by the engine Sep 12 17:51:13 it is to compress the air so more fuel can go in Sep 12 17:51:21 yea but Sep 12 17:51:26 hm Sep 12 17:51:30 a turbocharger gets the power from the exhaust gases Sep 12 17:51:44 while a supercharger is turned by the engine Sep 12 17:51:49 kerio: bullshitsticks http://jabis.coder.fi/utfwhat.png Sep 12 17:52:08 and it's mostly not related to what your irssi is doing Sep 12 17:52:21 both implementations have their advantages and disadvantages, but both just try to add more air into the combustion chamber Sep 12 17:52:51 WINDOWS 10!! Sep 12 17:52:54 traitor :p Sep 12 17:53:04 Sicelo: the supercharger reducing the torque and the turbocharger working less reliably? Sep 12 17:53:49 along those lines kerio, yes :) Sep 12 17:55:02 Sicelo: work pc, sorry :P Sep 12 17:55:08 jabis: try to send an Ḁ (U+1E00 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH RING BELOW) Sep 12 17:55:39 here you go A Sep 12 17:55:46 talk about funny characters .. how do i send these from linux? and more importanly, from Maemo? Sep 12 17:56:00 i see a plain A, not sure about the others Sep 12 17:56:08 my language doesn't use them, so i've never needed to use them Sep 12 17:56:13 also saw plain A Sep 12 17:56:49 wait a sec - I'll pic one thru character map from windows Sep 12 17:57:46 one above 256 Sep 12 17:58:01 scroll deep down Sep 12 17:58:23 like idk Sep 12 17:58:27 supplementary arrows B Sep 12 17:58:54 like ⤘ U+2918 RIGHTWARDS TWO-HEADED ARROW WITH TAIL WITH DOUBLE VERTICAL STROKE Sep 12 18:00:37 N900 displays the previous umlaut fine, but not kerio's character right now .. although pc displays it fine Sep 12 18:00:40 meh - would be so much easier if you have the alt+numpad combo x) Sep 12 18:00:50 jabis: alt+999 Sep 12 18:00:52 or something Sep 12 18:00:58 ? Sep 12 18:01:05 that's alt+999 Sep 12 18:01:19 yeah but what should it be? Sep 12 18:01:23 like, what do you see? Sep 12 18:01:59 windows character map doesn't let you filter x) Sep 12 18:03:02 A this is U+0104 (Latin Capital Letter A with Ogonek) Sep 12 18:03:10 what do you see Sep 12 18:03:13 A Sep 12 18:03:21 what client are you using? Sep 12 18:03:23 Sicelo? Sep 12 18:04:06 irssi Sep 12 18:04:14 no, what do you see Sep 12 18:04:15 ? Sep 12 18:04:27 oh. A .. normal Sep 12 18:04:31 http://jabis.coder.fi/utfwhat.png Sep 12 18:04:32 let me see on pc Sep 12 18:04:41 refreshed Sep 12 18:04:57 same on pc Sep 12 18:05:43 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2015-09-12.log.html this agrees Sep 12 18:06:17 Ą Sep 12 18:06:34 A with cedilla or whatever Sep 12 18:06:38 Ą Sep 12 18:07:22 possible to enter this stuff in Maemo? Sep 12 18:07:56 sure, copypaste it from somewhere else Sep 12 18:07:56 both look fine here - nice so putty fucks up my encoding then Sep 12 18:08:01 jabis: IRSSI Sep 12 18:08:08 Ö Sep 12 18:08:59 kerio: yup running irssi since >10 years on this same server with utf-8 encoding Sep 12 18:09:31 �� bork as well? Sep 12 18:09:32 and yet your putty is displaying the characters fine Sep 12 18:09:40 and your irssi is missending characters Sep 12 18:09:42 yup insists on utf-8 Sep 12 18:09:58 3 spurious bytes here Sep 12 18:10:10 check you /set Sep 12 18:10:46 you're still sending iso 8859 1 or 15 Sep 12 18:10:51 checked - UTF-8 auto, recode fallbacking 15 Sep 12 18:10:59 so .. those of you who need to live with thse things .. you got to remember codes? :O Sep 12 18:11:19 i configured my n900's keyboard to have the accented letters that i need Sep 12 18:11:20 recode out default is UTF-8 Sep 12 18:11:31 jabis: what about the per-window settings? Sep 12 18:12:05 Sicelo: and my keyboard layout on the laptop has the letters i need already Sep 12 18:12:30 no channel specific shit, nor window settings - only thing I need to run putty in windows 7 compat mode Sep 12 18:13:47 ü Sep 12 18:17:08 äöå better now? updated irssi and redownloaded putty Sep 12 18:17:10 so we don't have equivalent of linux ctrl+shift+u or window's alt? Sep 12 18:17:36 jabis: yep Sep 12 18:17:46 a with dieresis, o with dieresis, a with tiny circle Sep 12 18:18:12 idk about ctrl+shift+u Sep 12 18:18:46 wouldda had to do it one by one to see which was culprit - too quick on my fingers x) Sep 12 18:19:01 kerio: that's how i send the cedilla+a before Sep 12 18:19:11 ctrl-shift-u 0104 i think Sep 12 18:19:22 Ą Sep 12 18:20:11 Sicelo: did you do that on n900? Sep 12 18:20:21 no, pc. debian. Sep 12 18:20:28 would like to know how to do it from N900 Sep 12 18:20:58 ⤘ Sep 12 18:21:47 without remapping keyboard .. once-off Sep 12 18:25:00 ♪ Sep 12 18:26:57 ascii art kinda loses meaning when you have the art in ascii x) Sep 12 18:27:39 there isn't much of it in ASCII .. too few charactesr Sep 12 18:31:41 still miss the time when I ran a BBS with modem connections - best customers used dual ISDN lines to download ski jump records files and be done with it in a minute x) Sep 12 18:31:56 so looks like remapping is the only way, :( Sep 12 19:16:09 would http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg78455.html mean there's a packet injection function in wl1271 already? Sep 12 19:21:23 (kompressor) the german quote doesn't make real sense. Anyway there are several compressor concepts, depending on whether the compressor is driven by exhaust fumes (usually that's called turbo) or by belt from main engine, or even by a dedicated electromotor (the latter two usually called Kompressor) Sep 12 19:24:13 it was more of a marketing term possibly Sep 12 19:24:48 mercedes Kompresssors are belt-driven. they were not using turbos until few years ago. Sep 12 19:26:31 DocScrutinizer05: any way on N900/Maemo to enter extended characters without remapping keyboard? Sep 12 19:32:26 err, use the special keys vkbd? (blue-ctrl) Sep 12 19:33:43 I'm not aware of any app to add arbitrary UTF-8 or whatever Sep 12 19:34:38 you however easily could c&p from e.g. terminal or from a browser window Sep 12 19:35:24 ok. sucks. Sep 12 19:35:26 in xterm you also can define a few soft keys, dunno how far that goes. Sep 12 19:37:25 ctrl-shift-u doesn't work on my linux PC either, in this irc client Sep 12 19:38:00