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Oct 01 05:04:00 <Oksana> ~help
Oct 01 05:30:58 <ebzzry> Why does Maemo 5 asks me to input a code, for Secure Device, when I have already changed the code in Settings > Device lock
Oct 01 05:33:16 <ebzzry> It is asking for the same code, or a new code?
Oct 01 05:34:35 <KotCzarny> during changing or after screen lock/boot ?
Oct 01 05:38:26 <Oksana> You click Secure Device. Hence, you will need to input the code to get back in. Hence, it's asking you to input the code.
Oct 01 05:39:01 <Oksana> Device is already 'secured'. It's asking for the code to 'unsecure' the device
Oct 01 05:39:24 <Oksana> Same code, yes, afaik
Oct 01 06:22:42 <ebzzry> If it is the same code, why does it asks me to input a code to lock the device?
Oct 01 06:22:57 <ebzzry> Shouldn't it just lock the device, since I have already configured the lock code?
Oct 01 06:23:11 <KotCzarny> in settings you are creating new code
Oct 01 06:23:42 <KotCzarny> use powermenu to lock, or set to lock everytime when you 'lock the screen and keys'
Oct 01 06:26:28 <Oksana> It just locks _and_ asks you if you want to input a code and unlock. Theoretically, it should offer you an option to call 911-000-emergency-numbers without inputting the code
Oct 01 06:29:24 <Sicelo> < ebzzry> If it is the same code, why does it asks me to input a code to lock the device?
Oct 01 06:29:44 <Sicelo> to prevent you from locking it and then being unable to unlock
Oct 01 06:32:36 <DocScrutinizer05> hihi. do you need a key to lock the door, or only to unlock it
Oct 01 06:33:06 <Sicelo> :)
Oct 01 06:33:13 <KotCzarny> depends on the door
Oct 01 06:33:18 <KotCzarny> some lock automatically
Oct 01 06:34:05 <KotCzarny> especially popular in usa
Oct 01 06:34:11 <Sicelo> and we all know they are are pain those doors ..
Oct 01 06:34:31 <KotCzarny> some cars also have such 'feature'
Oct 01 06:34:33 <Sicelo> locked m car key in the boot last night
Oct 01 06:34:38 <KotCzarny> :)
Oct 01 06:34:48 <Sicelo> luckily, spare key was within 10 minutes walk
Oct 01 06:41:34 <Oksana> Nnniice...
Oct 01 07:16:58 <Maxdamantus> So a thief would only have had to walk ten minutes to steal your car.
Oct 01 07:17:12 <Maxdamantus> or twenty, maybe.
Oct 01 07:20:24 <Oksana> Well, it was probably inside a house, or something
Oct 01 07:21:28 <Vajb> maybe it was more like geocaching thing
Oct 01 07:21:35 <Maxdamantus> So you're relying on a master key? That's insecure.
Oct 01 07:22:03 <Maxdamantus> or are you getting into the house using a key hidden somewhere on the property? That's security through obscurity, which is also insecure.
Oct 01 07:22:12 <Vajb> so for ultimate security change different locks for all locks in one car
Oct 01 07:22:44 <KotCzarny> or add secret tap module
Oct 01 07:22:58 <Vajb> or numpad
Oct 01 07:23:07 <KotCzarny> retina scanner
Oct 01 07:23:20 <Vajb> + fingerprint
Oct 01 07:23:32 <KotCzarny> fingerprint will be problematic in winter
Oct 01 07:24:06 <Vajb> one can always take the gloves off =)
Oct 01 07:24:18 <KotCzarny> suuuuure, ever experienced -20C ?
Oct 01 07:24:19 <Maxdamantus> The gloves are off.
Oct 01 07:24:39 * Vajb is from finland
Oct 01 07:24:41 <KotCzarny> :)
Oct 01 07:24:52 <Vajb> ask another question maybe?
Oct 01 07:24:55 <Vajb> :)
Oct 01 07:25:14 <Maxdamantus> Miksi saa haluat suomesta?
Oct 01 07:25:20 <Vajb> lol
Oct 01 07:25:55 <Vajb> why i want from finland? Hmm that's though one.
Oct 01 07:26:29 <Vajb> or actually saa is short from saada which is to get
Oct 01 07:26:33 <KotCzarny> gtranslated conversation? :)
Oct 01 07:26:35 <Maxdamantus> sa*
Oct 01 07:26:57 <KotCzarny> Why do you want in from Finland ?
Oct 01 07:27:04 <KotCzarny> (gtranslated)
Oct 01 07:27:22 <Vajb> -in
Oct 01 07:27:37 <Maxdamantus> er, sä
Oct 01 07:27:39 <Vajb> litelary
Oct 01 07:28:05 <KotCzarny> http://www.pdftoepub.com/authorspromotion.asp
Oct 01 07:28:09 <KotCzarny> free promo for converter
Oct 01 07:28:20 <Maxdamantus> maybe it should be something more like "miksi sä haluat olla suomesta?"
Oct 01 07:28:26 <Maxdamantus> dunno.
Oct 01 07:28:43 * Maxdamantus should try to learn it better.
Oct 01 07:28:51 <Vajb> then it asks "why do you want to be from finland"
Oct 01 07:29:01 <Maxdamantus> Yes, that's what I meant.
Oct 01 07:29:09 <Vajb> well they didn't let me choose
Oct 01 07:29:13 <Maxdamantus> actually, I think I meant haluaisit
Oct 01 07:30:00 <Vajb> ah yes. Well it wasn't wish, but actual fact.
Oct 01 07:30:40 <Vajb> and sä is more like slang word of sinä
Oct 01 09:12:33 <zGrr> moin :)
Oct 01 13:55:06 <drawkula> who manages the talk.maemo.org blacklist?
Oct 01 14:03:05 <drawkula> ok... need to go rl...
Oct 01 14:55:50 <bencoh> drawkula: techstaff at maemo.org
Oct 01 15:53:08 <drawkula> bencoh: thanks!
Oct 01 19:52:52 <Sicelo> so how does Maxdamantus' car lock work? :/ sounds like he's got some elaborate vehicle
Oct 01 19:57:59 <KotCzarny> sicelo, many cars you can open via button press, ie. you need something from trunk, then they relock automatically (if driver or passenger door wasnt opened in the meantime)
Oct 01 19:59:10 <KotCzarny> my gf's skoda fabia from 2004 has such logic
Oct 01 19:59:24 <KotCzarny> dont know if it changed for better or worse with newer cars
Oct 01 20:01:41 <Sicelo> and if your key is in the trunk when said timer elapses?
Oct 01 20:03:12 <KotCzarny> then you have to find spare keys
Oct 01 20:03:23 <KotCzarny> if you are lucky you have few minutes of walk
Oct 01 20:03:52 <Sicelo> it was sounding like someone has better lock system
Oct 01 20:04:39 <KotCzarny> but if you open the door in the meantime timer is disabled
Oct 01 20:05:00 <KotCzarny> so i guess it was meant for such 'i just need something from the trunk'
Oct 01 20:05:15 <KotCzarny> or for accidental unlocks
Oct 01 20:05:36 <KotCzarny> ie. if you unlock but dont open anything then it will relock in few minutes
Oct 01 20:07:29 * Sicelo is tired .. & takes himself to bed.
Oct 01 20:35:20 <Sicelo> apt-get remove --purge bnf. :-[
Oct 01 22:53:25 <bencoh> hmm I wonder why some apt-http clients try fetching Packages.diff/index from nokia repositories while others dont
Oct 01 22:53:44 <bencoh> (with the same advertised apt/maemo version)
Oct 02 00:56:12 <Oksana> ... What is the status of fptf? /Aka is there something critical to do before taking on MicroB and dialer-ui? /
Oct 02 02:20:34 <Vajb> Sicelo: just out of curiosity, what is wrong with bnf?
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