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Nov 13 04:06:24 <Anasko> Okay, findutils-gnu it is...
Nov 13 04:38:45 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell Anasko about jrtools
Nov 13 08:24:57 <ceene> Oksana: what you want to do (to get notes from sound) is an spectogram
Nov 13 08:25:00 <ceene> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram
Nov 13 08:25:07 <ceene> it's easy to do with matlab, probably octave
Nov 13 08:25:39 <ceene> for anything different than a solo instrument it'll probably be very complicated and you'll need help from a musician
Nov 13 08:26:47 <KotCzarny> musician wouldnt need spectrogram anyway
Nov 13 08:26:48 <KotCzarny> :)
Nov 13 08:27:09 <ceene> http://www.drawmusic.com/Transcribing-Music/002-Seeing-Features/
Nov 13 08:27:14 <ceene> that's a cool article too
Nov 13 08:27:57 <ceene> KotCzarny: probably not, but i guess and spectogram will always be of help
Nov 13 08:41:09 <KotCzarny> one doesnt have to be a musician to decode fft
Nov 13 08:41:29 <KotCzarny> record instrument playing different notes then compare peaks
Nov 13 08:41:50 <KotCzarny> then write them and select which one belong to tune and which are just arrangement
Nov 13 08:42:18 <APic> ceene: Very cool, yeah
Nov 13 08:42:24 * APic bookmarks
Nov 13 08:53:20 <Sicelo> Oksana: re - portrait wallpapers .. just put device in portrait and change your wallpaper. alternatively, use gconf, but number workspaces from 10
Nov 13 08:53:51 <Sicelo> /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/views/10
Nov 13 08:56:28 <Sicelo> enable this feature first via 'gconftool-2 -s /apps/hildon-desktop/portrait_wallpaper -t bool true'
Nov 13 08:57:59 <Sicelo> it's documented in https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable#hildon-desktop
Nov 13 09:26:28 <DocScrutinizer05> ceene: I think there are several programs that already do this (spectrum analysis, correlate and suppress harmonics, then transcode base frequencies to notes
Nov 13 09:28:00 <DocScrutinizer05> and I think those programs can handle polyphonic music, when they are smart they even can distinguish instruments and separate their notes, by analyzing the harmonics
Nov 13 09:29:01 <DocScrutinizer05> there's one program that even allows correction of a single wrong key on piano in an orchester
Nov 13 09:29:43 <DocScrutinizer05> or alternatively transpose a complete single instrument in a mixed audio signal
Nov 13 09:30:21 <DocScrutinizer05> of course it's a tiny bit on the expensive side, and probably too sophisticated for simple note transscription
Nov 13 09:31:13 <DocScrutinizer05> but it definitely can get done to filter out a particular instrument with each single not it plays, from a complex music audio
Nov 13 09:31:32 <DocScrutinizer05> s/not it/note it/
Nov 13 09:31:32 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: but it definitely can get done to filter out a particular instrument with each single note it plays, from a complex music audio
Nov 13 09:40:13 <DocScrutinizer05> http://scorecloud.com/
Nov 13 09:45:22 <DocScrutinizer05> manual transcription helper: http://www.seventhstring.com/xscribe
Nov 13 09:47:35 <DocScrutinizer05> >>The software employs the most intelligent technology available today to convert up to 16 instruments or notes at a time into multiple staves, with up to four voices per staff.<< http://www.sibelius.com/products/audioscore/ultimate.html
Nov 13 09:51:28 <DocScrutinizer05> Oksana: http://connect.avid.com/AudioScoreUltimate-Demo.html
Nov 13 09:53:27 <klopsi-u3> ty DocScrutinizer05 
Nov 13 09:56:55 <klopsi-u3> amazing stuff
Nov 13 09:58:32 <DocScrutinizer05> ((correction of a single wrong key on piano; transpose a complete single instrument)) this is a program that's meant for audio postprocessing in studios and doesn't necessarily handle written notes, it's an extremely smart audio editor, and I for the life of mine can't recall the name
Nov 13 09:58:54 <DocScrutinizer05> just the price which iirc was in the 4 to 5 digits ballpark
Nov 13 10:02:43 <Sicelo> that makes it 6-7 digits for me 
Nov 13 10:07:27 <DocScrutinizer05> yet another one: http://www.intelliscore.net/faq.html#Q2
Nov 13 10:38:36 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, the editor I meant is *probably* Celemony's "Melodyne editor"
Nov 13 10:39:13 <DocScrutinizer05> "Direct Note Access"
Nov 13 10:43:21 <DocScrutinizer05> cheaper than I thought
Nov 13 10:45:59 <DocScrutinizer05> https://youtu.be/jFCjv4_jqAY?t=111
Nov 13 11:01:33 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiW6XVFeFgo
Nov 13 11:16:21 <DocScrutinizer05> that's really amazing stuff
Nov 13 11:16:40 <klopsi-u3> science, jo!
Nov 13 11:18:35 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Sensation-auf-der-Musikmesse-Wave-Daten-wie-MIDI-veraendern-Update-189909.html
Nov 13 11:18:54 <DocScrutinizer05> didn't look into it since back when in 2008/9
Nov 13 11:20:57 <klopsi-u3> black magic!
Nov 13 11:21:33 <klopsi-u3> it is the future!
Nov 13 11:27:27 <DocScrutinizer05> DUH!  http://www.celemony.com/de/trial
Nov 13 11:28:23 <klopsi-u3> hy duh?
Nov 13 11:53:02 <DocScrutinizer05> why? because it sounds like 30 days of extreme fun :-D
Nov 13 11:56:50 <klopsi-u3> duh! usually means you saw or did something stupid
Nov 13 11:56:57 <klopsi-u3> but thanks for the link
Nov 13 11:59:56 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if that thing would work (and how long) in a windows VM of which you do a paused snapshot with the melodyne started, which you use to start up the VM later
Nov 13 12:05:50 <KotCzarny> if you want to cheat you can simply find a crack
Nov 13 12:05:57 <KotCzarny> its your morals
Nov 13 13:25:35 <ceene> easier than that, you can just change datetime
Nov 13 13:32:17 <KotCzarny> ceene, its not about subverting the protection, but your morals
Nov 13 13:42:24 <kerio> change your morals' datetime
Nov 13 13:42:43 <kerio> just don't go too far in the past or slavery becomes ok
Nov 13 13:48:22 <KotCzarny> what about the future?
Nov 13 14:19:44 <zGrr> moin :)
Nov 13 14:20:46 <klopsi-u3> allo zGrr 
Nov 13 14:21:37 <zGrr> ehlo klopsi-u3 
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Nov 13 15:21:00 <totalizator> BTW this is what my N900 did the day I bought a new phone :3 http://imgur.com/v6EzmYD
Nov 13 15:21:12 <kerio> he was angry
Nov 13 15:21:18 <kerio> you betrayed him
Nov 13 15:21:30 <kerio> SHAME
Nov 13 15:22:12 <totalizator> it definitely has soul, yup
Nov 13 15:22:28 <klopsi-u3> hehe
Nov 13 15:22:55 <totalizator> it was just a glitch and reboot solved the problem, but still
Nov 13 15:23:09 <klopsi-u3> n900 does all i want except speedy webbrowsing
Nov 13 15:23:36 <totalizator> aye, the biggest flaw
Nov 13 15:24:42 <totalizator> not even close to the Android 2.x browsers - I had my fingers crossed for a browser port like this but it never came
Nov 13 15:25:15 <totalizator> and it was too much to bare for a daily usage
Nov 13 15:28:47 <KotCzarny> totalizator: selling that n900?
Nov 13 15:29:17 <totalizator> for the n-th time: NEVAH! :3
Nov 13 15:29:22 <KotCzarny> :)
Nov 13 15:31:59 <totalizator> KotCzarny: plus small reminder : still waiting for a proper source of oscp to be included in Arch AUR etc. - plzzzzz
Nov 13 15:35:12 <KotCzarny> on a positive note i've started tidying up build system, so its a step in that direction
Nov 13 15:37:58 <totalizator> yay
Nov 13 15:38:36 <totalizator> take your time but definitely release it someday
Nov 13 15:45:47 <KotCzarny> on the negative side, user feedback is 0
Nov 13 15:52:37 <totalizator> no widely available = no feedback, sry - sad but true
Nov 13 15:53:32 <totalizator> usually people are installing multimedia apps and they expect to get a final product
Nov 13 15:53:53 <totalizator> it works - cool, if not - delete, move on
Nov 13 15:55:09 <KotCzarny> well, its quite complete as it is, still, when developing user feedback is useful
Nov 13 15:56:45 <totalizator> but you are limited to Maemo "fan base" - so rly, you expect a feedback from ...the dead?
Nov 13 15:57:49 <KotCzarny> yup
Nov 13 15:57:55 <totalizator> think like: 1 of 100 users will give you feedback
Nov 13 16:00:12 <sach> I sold my N900 a year ago. How are things holding up?
Nov 13 16:00:14 <KotCzarny> well, i've thought n900 community is better than others
Nov 13 16:00:22 <KotCzarny> sach, good, how about you?
Nov 13 16:00:32 <sach> Pretty good!
Nov 13 16:03:19 <totalizator> OT: can I connect usb hub and charge N900 in the same time?
Nov 13 16:04:49 <KotCzarny> probably
Nov 13 16:11:08 <KotCzarny> but i dont know and i haven't tried
Nov 13 16:20:19 <Sicelo> totalizator: yes, you can
Nov 13 16:21:59 <totalizator> oh?
Nov 13 16:22:14 <totalizator> without black magick wizardry?
Nov 13 16:22:46 <Sicelo> which usb host method you use? if using Pali's, it's automatic
Nov 13 16:24:01 <totalizator> dunno, I've got this applet where I switch the usb mode
Nov 13 16:24:35 <Sicelo> that's Pali's
Nov 13 16:25:45 <Sicelo> if you were using h-e-n, it still works, but iirc you would have to turn off vbus. it's been a while since i did it that way, so i might not exactly be correct
Nov 13 16:28:10 <totalizator> ok, then what, is this enough to connect a powered usb hub then?
Nov 13 16:28:26 <Sicelo> lol. yes
Nov 13 16:28:39 <totalizator> huh, can't be! :3
Nov 13 16:29:33 <totalizator> thanks, I have to try
Nov 13 16:30:13 <Sicelo> that N900 screen ... looks bad. why not put a screen protector on it?
Nov 13 16:58:17 <totalizator> it escalated quickly :3 I meant the protective surface peeling
Nov 13 16:58:40 <totalizator> so I decided that there is no point
Nov 13 17:00:49 <KotCzarny> there is point
Nov 13 17:01:18 <totalizator> protectirs are overrated
Nov 13 17:01:19 <KotCzarny> n900's screen gets peeled badly without the protector
Nov 13 17:01:47 <KotCzarny> also, protector requires perfectly clean screen when applying
Nov 13 17:01:55 <totalizator> I don't mind scratches etc. as long as the screen in in one piece
Nov 13 17:03:33 <KotCzarny> mine still looks like new
Nov 13 17:03:51 <KotCzarny> and for 6 years its my second protector
Nov 13 17:07:42 <totalizator> looks like new but you can't touch it - my answer: no
Nov 13 17:08:41 <totalizator> I would buy tempered glass - yes
Nov 13 17:09:00 <totalizator> as the feel is same as without it
Nov 13 17:10:25 <totalizator> but you need capacitive screen for it
Nov 13 17:11:12 <totalizator> also, it's more like creack protection
Nov 13 17:11:42 <totalizator> BTW N900 digitizer is like $3 :D
Nov 13 17:11:48 <totalizator> brand new
Nov 13 17:32:55 <KotCzarny> totalizator, sure, but where did you get the idea that i cant touch it?
Nov 13 17:33:08 <KotCzarny> once protector is applied you use it the same way as original
Nov 13 17:33:45 <totalizator> the feel and responsiveness is never the same
Nov 13 17:34:07 <totalizator> I'm telling my preferences, nothing more
Nov 13 17:34:12 <KotCzarny> same here
Nov 13 17:34:27 <KotCzarny> i havent noticed screen being different in touch or responsiveness
Nov 13 17:36:40 <totalizator> also the scratches on the protector are way more visible which can be annoying
Nov 13 17:37:15 <totalizator> there is slight chance that I have factory protector on my N800 :3
Nov 13 17:37:29 <KotCzarny> :)
Nov 13 17:37:41 <KotCzarny> what scratches?
Nov 13 17:37:51 <totalizator> when the screen is being turned off you can see every swipe the device had all it's life
Nov 13 17:37:52 <KotCzarny> there are few kinds of protectors
Nov 13 17:37:58 <KotCzarny> hard ones, soft ones
Nov 13 17:38:04 <totalizator> IknowIknow
Nov 13 17:38:29 <totalizator> and have you seen the tempered glass for mobiles?
Nov 13 17:39:01 <KotCzarny> well, htc hero had one by default :P
Nov 13 17:39:10 <KotCzarny> didnt know one can get it for n900
Nov 13 17:39:26 <totalizator> glass? you can't imo
Nov 13 17:39:58 <totalizator> but it's supacool - no bubbles when applying
Nov 13 17:40:05 <KotCzarny> :)
Nov 13 17:40:10 <totalizator> and you can remove it and apply again
Nov 13 17:40:31 <KotCzarny> i got ~8 protectors with n800 when i bought it
Nov 13 17:40:40 <KotCzarny> one of it i've applied to n900
Nov 13 17:40:51 <KotCzarny> they are cheap
Nov 13 20:18:42 <klopsi-u3>  good friends we've had, good friends we've lost - along the way
Nov 13 20:28:28 <Oksanaa> Morpher is funny, but its gui currently requires stylus. And I don't see yet any morphing: I have loaded left and right images, what button to press next?
Nov 13 20:30:32 <klopsi-u3>  hi Oksanaa 
Nov 13 20:30:46 <klopsi-u3>  i don't know morpher, this is supposed to morph one image to another?
Nov 13 20:30:52 <Oksanaa> hello klopsi-u3 
Nov 13 20:31:16 <Oksanaa> probably, not sure. It mentions creating an animation, too...
Nov 13 20:31:30 <klopsi-u3> right, obviously it would create an animation
Nov 13 20:31:36 <klopsi-u3> maybe a gif or a mpeg
Nov 13 20:32:02 <klopsi-u3> have you tried MyPaint on N900?
Nov 13 20:32:20 <Oksanaa> Yes :-) Long time ago...
Nov 13 20:32:41 <klopsi-u3> it is amazing what some people can do with it, did you see the pictures in the forum?
Nov 13 20:33:35 <Oksanaa> Yes :-) Wish more people took part in LookwhatIdrawonmyphone thread...
Nov 13 20:34:03 <Oksanaa> Current photograph challenge of the month is "Photographer"
Nov 13 20:37:27 <klopsi-u3> ah
Nov 13 20:49:02 <Oksanaa> spontaneous shutdown of phone... Wish I knew the reason
Nov 13 20:49:39 <klopsi-u3> :/
Nov 13 20:49:51 <klopsi-u3> running cssu
Nov 13 20:49:52 <klopsi-u3> ?
Nov 13 20:50:12 <Oksanaa> Yes, CSSU-Testing-Thumb...
Nov 13 21:07:27 <klopsi-u3> i heard that was instable Oksanaa , but i don't know anything about it
Nov 13 21:08:45 <Sicelo> no, it's not
Nov 13 21:09:27 <Sicelo> Oksanaa: have syslog? might show you what happened just before shutdown
Nov 13 22:29:11 <Sicelo> OMP or stock player do not play some videos which they played well before, but gst-launch plays them :/
Nov 13 23:03:29 <Roth> Paris.. /:C\
Nov 13 23:07:39 <klopsi-u3>  yeah i wonder who is doing that
Nov 14 00:04:35 <rZr> Roth, yea that's insane
Nov 14 00:05:46 <klopsi-u3>  concert hall reported secured
Nov 14 00:07:06 <rZr> ... EODM Zipped down
Nov 14 00:16:14 <klopsi-u3>  in Paris military on the streets, 140 dead
Nov 14 00:24:07 <klopsi-u3>  hmm Sky News: "Suspect arrested at paris concert hall told police "I am from ISIS"
Nov 14 00:42:42 <klopsi-u3>  first video from Bataclan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrpDg_3-be0
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