**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 23 03:00:35 2015 Nov 23 03:16:00 please check http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#Mirrors_of_standard_Nokia_repos_.28using_Application_manager.29 Nov 23 03:16:21 Anasko: yes, it works Nov 23 03:17:25 merlin1991: I'd really appreciate those install files rather living on official maemo Nov 23 03:17:34 need mimetype Nov 23 03:18:27 dunno if it's compliant with maemo (council) policy regarding support of alien repos Nov 23 03:19:11 please a few of users in here check one-click install of muarf repos: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/muarf.install Nov 23 03:24:50 anybody? Nov 23 03:27:34 * Anasko goes to qrcode the link over to device Nov 23 03:29:29 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ Nov 23 03:29:42 (moved) Nov 23 03:38:31 nobody willing to test catalog one-click install? Nov 23 03:40:07 Two clicks, one click per catalog, I guess? Nov 23 03:40:37 Full link: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/muarf.install Nov 23 03:41:06 err the muarf.install installs both repos Nov 23 03:42:02 so it's either / or. Depending on whether you want to also add devel and tools Nov 23 03:51:05 tiwake: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/11/23/plasma-desktopaG3616.png :-) Nov 23 04:31:47 Anasko: you tried it? Nov 23 04:36:47 ~jrrepos is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ Nov 23 04:36:47 okay, DocScrutinizer05 Nov 23 04:43:11 back Nov 23 04:44:47 tiwake: see ^^^ Nov 23 04:45:09 ~jrrepos Nov 23 04:45:09 somebody said jrrepos was http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ Nov 23 04:46:12 tiwake: also http://wstaw.org/m/2015/11/23/plasma-desktopaG3616.png Nov 23 04:46:31 I think I'm going to make some mac&cheese first Nov 23 04:46:35 kinda hungry Nov 23 04:46:48 well Nov 23 04:46:50 hmm Nov 23 04:48:59 DocScrutinizer05: I went to it on my cellphone... click on one of them? Nov 23 04:49:38 I tested nuarf Nov 23 04:49:48 muarf even Nov 23 04:49:56 yes, click muarf.install Nov 23 04:50:51 alright Nov 23 04:59:28 alright, backupmenu finally installing Nov 23 04:59:29 heh Nov 23 05:00:51 set new root password? Nov 23 05:00:54 herm Nov 23 05:01:50 dododo Nov 23 05:01:58 having a decebt root password is a nice thing Nov 23 05:02:07 decent* Nov 23 05:02:10 yeah Nov 23 05:03:33 ok and just boot the cellphone up with the keypad open Nov 23 05:04:21 (root pw) -> http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#random_stuff_to_config_.2F_fix_.27things.27_.28c.26p_to_shell.29 search for "# fix NOPASSWD for root / sudo gainroot" Nov 23 05:04:47 and no cellphone ;) Nov 23 05:05:03 hm? Nov 23 05:05:54 Sicelo: you lost me Nov 23 05:06:52 that was for tiwake ... alluding to fact that we don't typically refer to N900 as a cellphone. i can 'see' the unintended pun though .. didn't mean that Nov 23 05:07:51 aah Nov 23 05:07:53 Sicelo009N: donno, thats all I've ever used it for Nov 23 05:08:36 a running gag: "N900 is no phone" Nov 23 05:09:43 its probably the last of the badass cellphones nokia makes Nov 23 05:10:31 alright, booted into backupmenu Nov 23 05:10:35 and pressed b Nov 23 05:10:37 :-D Nov 23 05:10:55 probably t, to backup everything Nov 23 05:11:22 backup everything w/o compression, ideally to uSD card Nov 23 05:11:39 not with compression? Nov 23 05:11:47 takes aaaaaages Nov 23 05:11:50 also, I have no card Nov 23 05:12:02 then use internal storage for now Nov 23 05:12:37 however you eventually want to do backups to a removabe storage device Nov 23 05:12:54 i.e. a uSD Nov 23 05:13:00 probably won't happen Nov 23 05:13:03 lol Nov 23 05:13:12 why? Nov 23 05:14:00 no micro SD cards available at your place? Nov 23 05:14:15 cause I'm not going to spend any money on this cellphone.. heh Nov 23 05:14:27 *shrug* Nov 23 05:14:37 I'd rather trash it and get something that runs sailfishOS honestly Nov 23 05:14:54 um Nov 23 05:15:01 but that will be a while yet Nov 23 05:15:26 I'd rather use one of my 20 or 30 uSD cards that collect dust here, than "spending money" or using N900 without uSD Nov 23 05:15:56 plenty of space on this Nov 23 05:16:40 now that there is a backup... Nov 23 05:16:47 hmm Nov 23 05:17:55 disable the catalogs and install the CSSU Nov 23 05:18:01 actually swapping device when I need to is a matter of doing a BM backup to the uSD, then ripping out uSD and SIM and place it into the spare device, flash the spare device with BM-augmented fiasco image and boot into BM to restore all the data and stuff from BM backup on uSD Nov 23 05:18:30 ah yeah Nov 23 05:18:42 that would be nice for having more than one N900 Nov 23 05:19:09 ((disable the catalogs and install the CSSU)) yep, you should disable: the original broken Nokia catalogs, maemo_extras-(testing|devel), and any tools or SDK repo you might have Nov 23 05:20:16 ~cssu Nov 23 05:20:17 somebody said cssu was http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) Nov 23 05:20:46 then proceed to ~cssu and click the distro of your choice. Maybe you even want "cssu-testing" which as well is considered quite stable and way more up to date Nov 23 05:20:58 ~nit Nov 23 05:20:58 it has been said that nit is Nokia Internet Tablet Nov 23 05:22:02 tiwake: you can "upgrade" from cssu-stable to cssu-testing any time though Nov 23 05:22:09 not the other way round Nov 23 05:23:13 but yeah, when your cmdline/bash experience is approaching zero, I can see why you would prefer sailfish Nov 23 05:26:12 tiwake: you shouldn't forget to hook up the device to charger soonish Nov 23 05:26:28 (unless you already did) Nov 23 05:30:29 yeah, I've owned this long enough to know ;) Nov 23 05:32:45 alright Nov 23 05:35:26 it installed the thing Nov 23 05:35:29 now... up Nov 23 05:35:32 *uh Nov 23 05:36:20 please follow install instructions on ~cssu varefully. This is a multi-step process Nov 23 05:36:29 carefully* Nov 23 05:37:29 oh right Nov 23 05:39:23 installing Nov 23 05:51:42 gogogo Nov 23 05:55:50 woo Nov 23 05:55:53 it rebooted Nov 23 05:56:14 now what Nov 23 05:56:37 re-enable the catalogs? Nov 23 06:01:58 no Nov 23 06:03:14 oh I should get my contacts back on it Nov 23 06:03:15 the catalogs I listed above are default disabled. You only enable one of them temporarily to install a particular app from that repo. NEVER do an "update all" when any of the extras-(testing|devel) or tools etc catalogs are enabled Nov 23 06:04:12 [2015-11-23 Mon 06:19:08] ((disable the catalogs and install the CSSU)) yep, you should disable: the original broken Nokia catalogs, maemo_extras-(testing|devel), and any tools or SDK repo you might have Nov 23 06:04:25 alright Nov 23 06:04:47 so it should be good to go then, cause the CSSU has all that stuff or w/e? Nov 23 06:05:07 yep Nov 23 06:05:35 I recommend another BM backup, just in case you want to roll back to "virg Nov 23 06:05:59 to a mint system when fiddling with apps too much Nov 23 06:08:43 you definitely want "simple brightness applet" Nov 23 06:10:08 # "fix" the hold-key=sym nonsense Nov 23 06:10:10 gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/inputmethod/ext_kb_repeat_enabled --type boolean true Nov 23 06:11:52 hold-key? Nov 23 06:11:56 # set ctl-BS to my preferred operation mode. like Alt-Tab on PC KDE Nov 23 06:11:57 gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/ctrl_backspace_in_tasknav -t int 5 Nov 23 06:12:03 alternatively, rm /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/hildon-im-module.so Nov 23 06:12:31 when you press and hold a key, it doesn't repeat but rather turns into the blue symbol on same key Nov 23 06:12:45 oh hey, adblock plug Nov 23 06:12:48 plus Nov 23 06:12:56 Yeah, HIM does lots of weird things. Nov 23 06:12:56 Maxdamantus: HUH? Nov 23 06:13:12 You can just remove HIM. Nov 23 06:13:27 You lose the VKB though. Nov 23 06:13:28 wtf is HIM? Nov 23 06:13:33 Hildon Input Manager. Nov 23 06:13:43 or input mode or something. Nov 23 06:13:54 method* Nov 23 06:13:56 and what would I gain by removing it? Nov 23 06:14:26 You remove all the weird things you get with it, like that repeating thing, and instead get a mostly normal Multi_key. Nov 23 06:14:32 is there a map program that I can use offline? Nov 23 06:14:36 haha Nov 23 06:14:45 (fn+sym is Multi_key) Nov 23 06:14:54 I don't know of a single really weird thing HIM does Nov 23 06:15:21 tiwake: there are a few, yes Nov 23 06:15:40 19:12:31 < DocScrutinizer05> when you press and hold a key, it doesn't repeat but rather turns into the blue symbol on same key Nov 23 06:15:47 What about that one? Nov 23 06:15:49 so what? Nov 23 06:15:52 That always annoyed me. Nov 23 06:15:59 couldn't use vim effectively. Nov 23 06:16:05 then you should have used gconf to disable it Nov 23 06:16:12 which one would be best? Nov 23 06:16:32 I also prefer the normal Xorg Multi_key behaviour over HIM's symbol selection dialogue. Nov 23 06:17:04 ie, fn+sym, ‹"›, ‹o› = ö Nov 23 06:17:28 tiwake: http://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools Nov 23 06:18:05 tiwake: Ovi Maps :) Nov 23 06:18:06 Maxdamantus: then you should adapt your keymapping Nov 23 06:18:33 DocScrutinizer05: how? Nov 23 06:18:33 Sicelo009N: I would also need a good source for a map :-x Nov 23 06:18:37 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders what's fn+sym Nov 23 06:18:45 fn+ctrl, if you want. Nov 23 06:19:44 tiwake: nokia maps... Nov 23 06:20:15 tiwake: http://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools#Keeping_Data_Costs_Down_.28International_Roaming.29 Nov 23 06:21:39 DocScrutinizer05: so what parts of HIM do you find useful? Nov 23 06:22:22 I don't have a dataplan, and always find it annoying when they try to use internet for a map thing Nov 23 06:22:33 I'm not going to give you another opportunity to harass me Nov 23 06:23:03 ^^^ Maxdamantus Nov 23 06:23:19 tiwake: http://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools#Keeping_Data_Costs_Down_.28International_Roaming.29 Nov 23 06:23:24 Okay, sorry. Didn't realise you were sensitive about these discussions you invoke. Nov 23 06:23:38 *plonk* Nov 23 06:24:56 I had doom installed... was fun to show people Nov 23 06:25:31 esp. back when I first got it... could play doom and talk to people on the cellphone and whatever else I wanted to do at the same time Nov 23 06:25:37 :3 Nov 23 06:25:57 now thats a more common thing for cellphones Nov 23 06:28:43 lol borg sound effects Nov 23 06:28:56 I'm going to have fun browsing Nov 23 06:30:10 tiwake: ovi/nokia maps only use dataplan for searching. you can save all map data ahead of time Nov 23 06:30:14 * Sicelo009N does Nov 23 06:30:29 and i don't even search 90% of the time Nov 23 06:32:04 hmm Nov 23 06:35:27 CUPS server? lol awesome Nov 23 06:38:17 ooo offline wikipedia Nov 23 06:39:13 now you know why we don't refer to N900 as a cellphone so much Nov 23 06:39:26 enh yeah Nov 23 06:39:35 I wont use this stuff hardly at all Nov 23 06:40:27 I'm just going over the "its shiny and new" stage because re-installed the OS and updated it Nov 23 06:40:35 only I did it correctly this time Nov 23 06:40:40 thanks to you guys Nov 23 06:49:55 overclocking? Nov 23 06:49:59 lol Nov 23 06:50:18 I guess its not any worse than overclocking the router Nov 23 06:51:32 ~omap-oc Nov 23 06:51:32 somebody said omap-oc was http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05 read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:11 Nov 23 06:52:04 ~oc Nov 23 06:52:04 oc is probably an Optical Carrier, An OC1 has 672 channels or 44.736 Mbit/s Nov 23 06:52:21 I want an OC3 line Nov 23 06:52:24 :P Nov 23 06:52:25 ~overclocking Nov 23 06:52:25 "OK, listen up. This is your CPU." apt drops the CPU into a hot frying pan. "This is your CPU on overclocking. Any questions?" Nov 23 06:52:34 lol Nov 23 08:49:05 moin :) Nov 23 08:49:14 moin zGrr Nov 23 08:49:23 :) Nov 23 10:03:08 * jonwil is making more progress on module-nokia-voice than he thought he would :) Nov 23 10:03:24 cool Nov 23 13:23:05 go jonwil :D Nov 23 13:51:41 ok, that's about as much as I can do, now its up to freemangordon to do more :) Nov 23 13:53:28 or someone else with more skills than me :) Nov 23 14:38:47 ~modeswitch Nov 23 14:39:11 hmm, how do you query infobot? Nov 23 14:39:18 ~ping Nov 23 14:39:18 ~pong Nov 23 14:39:25 ~listkeys modeswitch Nov 23 14:39:27 Factoid search of 'modeswitch' by key returned no results. Nov 23 14:39:33 ~listkeys switch Nov 23 14:39:34 Factoid search of 'switch' by key (10 of 27): factoid word switch ;; jargon big red switch ;; airswitch ;; they-switched-to-gnome ;; jargon big red switch3 ;; so when the switch to 5v ;; overrideswitch ;; jargon scram switch2 ;; then the orange led should be on if the switch ;; having to flush the caches on each context switch. Nov 23 14:39:42 but maybe you need: Nov 23 14:39:43 ~hen Nov 23 14:39:44 well, hen is hostmode-easy-now, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232, or see ~hostmode Nov 23 14:39:53 I remember the n900 can do host mode Nov 23 14:39:57 yeah that Nov 23 14:40:03 thanks Nov 23 14:49:47 how many n900s do you all have? Nov 23 14:49:59 there is a thread on tmo for that Nov 23 14:50:32 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96041 Nov 23 14:50:50 klopsi-u3: 8 Nov 23 14:51:03 and this one is similar in meaning: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88888 Nov 23 14:51:51 jon_y: freemangordon: sorry I haven't been able to free up time for the pa mods REing yet, life is hard atm Nov 23 14:52:01 (assuming jon_y is jonwil) Nov 23 14:52:11 i thienk he is not Nov 23 14:52:49 jonwil did quit about 30 mins ago ;) Nov 23 14:59:11 I saw that Nov 23 14:59:19 oh well :) Nov 23 15:02:35 Wizzup: yeah, jonwil is jonwil :) Nov 23 15:26:57 http://i.imgur.com/wuyoKvD.png Nov 23 15:27:05 scammers gonna scam Nov 23 15:43:38 tiwake: Quake III: (Team) Arena can run on Maemo 5 too. Doom 3 has been ported to the Android OS. Nov 23 15:44:29 hehe Nov 23 15:46:34 tiwake: Quake II can run in a modern Web browser using WebGL. Nov 23 16:18:27 stock calculator, besides calculating say 14% of 100 (100%14), is there a simpler way to add 14% to 100? Nov 23 16:19:41 echo $(( 100*114/100 )) Nov 23 16:20:00 i mean in the stock calculator... Nov 23 16:20:13 use the bash luke, use the bash Nov 23 16:21:23 or just install some calc alternative that actually has calculator features Nov 23 16:22:54 heh Nov 23 16:23:12 free42, ati85 etc Nov 23 16:24:04 100+14% actually works :) Nov 23 16:25:27 and, i do have ati85 ... but isn't that overkill for this function? and no, i'm not interested in having dozens of programs installed that do the same thing. i'd have gone android for that Nov 23 16:30:31 well, its not about having dozens of programs, just 1 that works Nov 23 16:30:52 dozens of programs exist because people have different tastes/needs Nov 23 16:32:09 (and that's a good thing (having alternatives)) Nov 23 16:33:15 yes but too many bad alternatives are worse than a few good ones Nov 23 16:33:20 they waste your time Nov 23 16:33:41 unfortunatelly that's true Nov 23 16:34:19 still, better to have alternatives and waste some time, than have no alternatives and keep grumbling everytime you have to do something Nov 23 16:35:47 osso-calc is preinstalled on device .. may as well learn to use it well if it can work for one's circumstances Nov 23 17:31:16 https://www.jitbit.com/alexblog/249-now-thats-what-i-call-a-hacker/ Nov 23 17:53:09 <3 Nov 23 18:43:22 vulgar Nov 23 18:46:18 and the coffee script could burn the heating element as there's no test for presence of water Nov 23 18:46:39 maybe that's why he got fired Nov 23 20:56:27 How to play h264/avc/aac/mp4 video on N900? Media format not supported Nov 23 20:56:48 Maybe, too high resolution? 1000, whatever it means for ABC Nov 23 21:02:50 codecs installed? Nov 23 21:24:04 hi Nov 23 21:24:23 Sicelo009N: omap3430-dsp-libraries-ti installed, yes Nov 23 21:25:56 If you wish, test. abc.net.au/news , Koalas chewing bark, something_1000.mp4 Nov 23 21:27:02 freemangordon: ping Nov 23 21:36:20 Oksanaa: Have you tried using VLC Media Player? Nov 23 21:42:39 maybe give full link Oksanaa :) not finding it, and news sites make me drowsy Nov 23 22:06:36 Oksana: afaik omap3430-dsp-libraries-ti only supports H.263/264_low-profile - see http://www.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?contentId=14649&navigationId=12643&templateId=6123 >>IVA™ 2+ (Image Video Audio) accelerator enables multi-standard (MPEG4, WMV9, RealVideo, H263, H264) encode/decode at D1 (720x480 pixels) 30 fps, and up to 720p resolutions<< Nov 23 22:07:59 so >> Maybe, too high resolution? 1000<< yes, definitely Nov 23 22:19:11 btw H.26(3/4) are encumbered by software patents according to wikipedia. Which gives a hint why Nokia would not have included any codecs for it that are not shipped by TI already Nov 23 22:21:18 Hmm... I heard about 1080p playback support somewhere? But anyway, display is only 800x480, so I should try a different resolution, I guess Nov 23 22:24:28 we never had 1080p Nov 23 22:28:11 obviously we need to push it by supporting h265 playback :) Nov 23 22:28:30 seriously though h265 compression is pretty insane Nov 23 22:28:47 while somehow still maintaining crisp quality Nov 23 23:03:30 Oksana: yes, a transcoder proxy would be a very handy thing Nov 24 01:53:13 Oksana: cpu is already at limit with 800x480 afaik Nov 24 01:53:21 oops stuck in scrollback **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 24 03:00:52 2015