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Dec 14 07:14:05 <brolin_empey> KotCzarny: I finally built minicom for Cygwin by myself.  Most of the work was in preparing the build environment, specifically determining which packages are needed and installing the missing packages.
Dec 14 07:14:52 <KotCzarny> good
Dec 14 07:15:06 <KotCzarny> as a bonus you have cygwin buildenv ready too
Dec 14 07:31:00 <brolin_empey> KotCzarny: Yes, even though I have used the same Cygwin installations for years.  I had to use the Cygwin installation on my desktop computer at ${WORK} because my Cygwin installation on my desktop computer at ${HOME} is borked:  basically, I can still mostly/somewhat use it with the packages already installed but I cannot install additional packages.  IIRC, I cannot update the currently-installed packages either because the package installation/upgrade 
Dec 14 07:31:00 <brolin_empey> process hangs.
Dec 14 07:32:48 <KotCzarny> i think there is apt-cyg or cygapt that eases the package manipulation
Dec 14 07:33:09 <KotCzarny> unsupported by cygwin devs, but does its job well
Dec 14 09:32:15 <Sicelo> fennec - how would i stop it creating many tabs?
Dec 14 09:34:19 <Sicelo> asking again.. as freemangordon_ just joined :)
Dec 14 09:34:21 <Sicelo> fennec - how would i stop it creating many tabs?
Dec 14 09:34:53 <freemangordon_> no idea :)
Dec 14 09:35:43 <KotCzarny> http://codeverge.com/netscape.mozilla.general/how-to-disable-tabbed-browsing-with/1468748  maybe this one?
Dec 14 09:36:10 <freemangordon_> never used it for anything but some experiments
Dec 14 09:37:04 <Sicelo> KotCzarny: looking ... it's not that i don't want tabs to work, but fennec seems to prefer to create news tabs. i would like to 'tell' it when to create a new tab
Dec 14 09:37:26 <KotCzarny> you can try some old 'tab mix plus' extension then
Dec 14 09:37:48 <KotCzarny> but dont know how many of the firefox settings are in fennec
Dec 14 09:43:25 <Sicelo> browser.link.open_newwindow seems to be what i'm looking for .. it's 3 in fennec. changing it to 1 to see if problem solved
Dec 14 09:46:24 <Sicelo> great. seems to work
Dec 14 09:50:52 <Sicelo> working much nicer now .. no heavy lag like before
Dec 14 10:10:55 <jonwil> freemangordon: ping
Dec 14 10:28:18 <freemangordon_> jonwil: pong
Dec 14 10:30:12 * jonwil has done some work on connui-conndlgs-wlan
Dec 14 10:31:20 <freemangordon_> great
Dec 14 10:31:42 <freemangordon_> I saw your commits from this morning, is it something new?
Dec 14 10:32:26 <freemangordon_> BTW I will RE some more plugins, they are too easy to distribute them in binary
Dec 14 10:32:27 <bencoh> Sicelo: is fennec really usable?
Dec 14 10:32:51 * freemangordon_ is going to have something to eat, bbl
Dec 14 10:33:03 <jonwil> I am about to have a go at some of the connui-conndlgs-wlan plugins
Dec 14 10:33:16 <Sicelo> for my needs, i guess .. i don't use it too much also, but at times i need a page which it opens better 
Dec 14 10:44:54 <jonwil> or maybe not, they aren't as simple as I thought :)
Dec 14 10:44:59 <jonwil> Will let freemagnrdon deal with them :)
Dec 14 11:30:39 <freemangordon_> jonwil: which ones? (to not work on the same plugins)
Dec 14 11:51:03 <freemangordon> jonwil: I started work on iap_dialog_gtc_challenge
Dec 14 11:54:14 <jonwil> Not planning to work on any of them, I decided not to
Dec 14 11:55:40 <freemangordon> jonwil: any clue what is libcomapp-dev?
Dec 14 11:55:45 <jonwil> I did add some functions needed by connui-conndlgs-wlan to libconnui-dev
Dec 14 11:56:02 <freemangordon> certman applet needs it
Dec 14 11:56:05 <jonwil> Only function I wasn't able to figure out is iap_scan_start_for_network_types in lobconnui.so
Dec 14 11:56:07 <jonwil> libconnui.so
Dec 14 11:56:39 <jonwil> libcomap code is in the Fremantle SDK
Dec 14 11:56:47 <jonwil> so you can get libcomap-dev from there
Dec 14 11:57:01 <jonwil> the package isn't there but the code in there will build it
Dec 14 11:57:22 <freemangordon> oh, I see
Dec 14 11:58:43 <jonwil> but yeah other than iap_scan_start_for_network_types I figured out all the functions called by connui-conndlgs-wlan
Dec 14 11:59:47 <freemangordon> maybe we should RE it as well
Dec 14 11:59:53 <freemangordon> libconnui that is
Dec 14 12:01:18 <jonwil> be my guest, its a big chunk of code
Dec 14 12:01:40 <freemangordon> :)
Dec 14 12:02:42 <jonwil> although IMO we should be working on things that are actually necessary (like pulseaudio-nokia) rather than connectivity UI that is being cloned for the sake of cloning it :)
Dec 14 12:04:11 <jonwil> connui-conndlgs-wlan at least has some bugs we want to fix
Dec 14 12:04:24 <freemangordon> I need some rest from PA, (and some free time to work on it)
Dec 14 12:04:47 <jonwil> ok :)
Dec 14 12:04:56 <jonwil> connui-conndlgs-wlan seems like a good way to go then :)
Dec 14 12:06:08 <freemangordon> yeah :)
Dec 14 12:06:26 <jonwil> reverse engineering libconnui on the other hand seems like wasted effort to me
Dec 14 12:06:32 <jonwil> cloning it that is
Dec 14 12:06:40 <jonwil> reverse engineering the missing functions on the other hand is useful
Dec 14 12:11:53 <jonwil> but yeah at this point I am going to stop fiddling with the connectivity UI stuff
Dec 14 12:31:15 * jonwil has run out of things to do again
Dec 14 12:31:24 <jonwil> well things for N900 that is
Dec 14 12:31:59 <bencoh> what about libcodelock/devlock?
Dec 14 12:32:08 <bencoh> did you manage to RE it?
Dec 14 12:32:41 <jonwil> https://github.com/community-ssu/codelockui/ is as far as I got with codelockui
Dec 14 12:33:52 <jonwil> and there is no real point cloning libdevlock, its just a lib for dealing with the device lock in CAL and not worth REing (nothing in it we need to change)
Dec 14 12:34:09 <jonwil> https://github.com/community-ssu/libdevlock-dev is the dev package I made for libdevlock though
Dec 14 12:35:29 <jonwil> all the "interesting" stuff is also the hard stuff
Dec 14 12:35:37 <jonwil> like hildon-plugins-notify-sv
Dec 14 12:38:59 <jonwil> I did just figure out why my wl1251-cal clone is broken though :)
Dec 14 12:39:03 <jonwil> going to fix it now :)
Dec 14 12:58:56 <freemangordon> :)
Dec 14 13:07:35 <jonwil> fixed :)
Dec 14 13:08:03 <jonwil> so now I am running new wl1251-cal on my phone again :)
Dec 14 13:08:10 <jonwil> no more problems with bogus mac address
Dec 14 13:08:27 <jonwil> and with that I have done everything I can think of that I am able to do
Dec 14 13:08:33 <jonwil> so I am back to having nothing to do :P
Dec 14 13:08:45 <jonwil> actually no, I will go zzz since its late :)
Dec 14 13:08:46 <jonwil> cya later
Dec 14 19:07:33 <freemangordon> Pali: could you pull the latest connui-conndlgs-wlan to see if I didn't break anything
Dec 14 20:51:30 <jonwil> hi
Dec 14 20:51:39 <jonwil> pali: ping
Dec 14 23:51:20 <Oksanaa> Anybody remembers camera competition "The Photographer"? /me just entered it/
Dec 14 23:51:49 <Oksanaa> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96130
Dec 15 00:14:13 <M4rtinK> Oksana: Cool! Good luck! :)
Dec 15 00:33:02 * jonwil is bored :(
Dec 15 01:13:18 <Oksanaa> jonwil: Enter the camera competition?
Dec 15 01:48:25 <Oksanaa> A tiny idea: a behind the scenes auto-correct plugin for dict(d) which, when a new dictionary appears, dumps words from it into auto-correct list
Dec 15 01:48:51 <Oksanaa> auto-correct would slow down to a crawl with such a huge vocabulary ;-)
Dec 15 02:58:46 <Oksanaa> camera: low exposure > green tint, is it normal?
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