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Jan 14 06:27:51 <Sicelo> another 'problem' i'm having (not sure if it's consistent) is that sometimes mediaplayer (stock or OMP) will not adjust volume on press of rocker keys. however this is also not hardware issue, as at that same time, it is possible for me to zoom in/out in browser with the same keys
Jan 14 06:28:42 <Sicelo> for the volume, nothing at all shows up in dbus-monitor
Jan 14 07:33:34 <Sicelo> ok. --log-level debug for pulseaudio still indicates that all is "well" 
Jan 14 07:37:07 <Sicelo> maybe i have to just consider it a HW problem after all. but still weird that restarting pulseaudio 'seems' to work.
Jan 14 10:48:26 <L29Ah> i have a quite used jack hole in my n900
Jan 14 10:49:03 <L29Ah> so when i'm running it loses connection sometimes and n900 detects jack unplugging and replugging
Jan 14 10:49:22 <L29Ah> and so my player (omp) pauses and resumes the sound
Jan 14 10:49:54 <L29Ah> but sometimes maemo detects the replugging (the headphones symbol appear in the tray), but the player won't resume playing the track
Jan 14 10:50:05 <L29Ah> and i have to do it manually
Jan 14 10:50:10 <L29Ah> is this fixable?
Jan 14 10:50:25 <Oksanaa> Solution: replace jack port? No soldering needed, afaik. Just proper screwdrivers
Jan 14 10:50:29 <L29Ah> // replacement jack is on my way, but it'll take several weeks to reach me
Jan 14 10:50:30 <Sicelo> get jack from dead n900?
Jan 14 10:50:37 <Sicelo> ah
Jan 14 10:50:49 <L29Ah> and an used-to-be-n900er friend said there's a software solution
Jan 14 10:51:14 <Sicelo> tell omp not to pause too :)
Jan 14 10:51:28 <L29Ah> but i want it to pause when i actually unplug it :]
Jan 14 10:52:30 <L29Ah> btw it's awesome that replacement n900 parts are still widely available
Jan 14 10:52:56 <Sicelo> in your part of the world :(
Jan 14 10:53:05 <L29Ah> ebay.com
Jan 14 10:54:33 <L29Ah> btw as rouble rushes down used and working n900's start from $27 in .ru market ;]
Jan 14 11:24:56 <Sicelo> just hope for my earpiece problem i don't have flex ribbon issue :(
Jan 14 11:25:27 <Sicelo> that would be difficult to replace here (where N900 is extinct, and was hardly known)
Jan 14 12:21:18 <Sicelo> ok.. definitely flex cable issue. exchanged flex board only with my 2nd N900, and it's working fine. meaning it's time to find flex ribbon :(
Jan 14 12:35:42 <Sicelo> riddle me this: why is it that with flaky flex ribbon, adjusting volume in media player using volume  rocker does not work. fix ribbon, and it works again? 
Jan 14 12:39:28 <sixwheeledbeast> ~fix-ribbon
Jan 14 12:39:59 <sixwheeledbeast> ~fixribbon
Jan 14 12:39:59 <infobot> fixribbon is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1324171#post1324171
Jan 14 12:40:08 <sixwheeledbeast> ah
Jan 14 12:42:21 <Sicelo> how much did that cost?
Jan 14 12:44:25 <sixwheeledbeast> can't remember and link seems dead
Jan 14 12:46:32 <Sicelo> funny thing is that this bad flex is working 'fine' on the other N900. 
Jan 14 12:51:21 <L29Ah> maybe the connector pins were covered in oxides and you incidentally removed them
Jan 14 12:51:36 <L29Ah> s/in/by/
Jan 14 12:51:37 <infobot> L29Ah meant: maybe the connector pbys were covered in oxides and you incidentally removed them
Jan 14 12:51:44 <L29Ah> infobot: :*
Jan 14 12:53:37 <Sicelo> no. i took the whole thing out earlier (when you were talking about your jack problem). made no difference. actually i didn't want to change them around because 2nd N900 metal pieces aren't as nice as my 'originalm one
Jan 14 12:55:11 <Sicelo> flex almost 3x as expensive this side as what i see on ebay :(
Jan 14 12:58:01 <parazyd> i've formatted MyDocs to ext4, however, now when mounting it back i'm getting:
Jan 14 12:58:09 <parazyd> mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs/ failed: Invalid argument
Jan 14 12:58:17 <parazyd> there's no entry in the fstab
Jan 14 12:58:51 <L29Ah> anything fun in dmesg?
Jan 14 12:59:23 <parazyd> hmm
Jan 14 12:59:26 <parazyd> [ 1324.825256] EXT3-fs: mmcblk0p1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240).
Jan 14 12:59:28 <parazyd> five times
Jan 14 12:59:40 <parazyd> let me try ext3 then?
Jan 14 13:00:54 <L29Ah> mount -t ext4
Jan 14 13:00:55 <L29Ah> ?
Jan 14 13:01:06 <parazyd> didn't do the thing
Jan 14 13:01:10 <parazyd> even a fstab entry
Jan 14 13:01:16 <parazyd> hold on, i'm formatting to ext3
Jan 14 13:03:42 <parazyd> went thru with ext3 it seems
Jan 14 13:03:58 <parazyd> not sure i even want to know why
Jan 14 13:06:05 <Sicelo> hmm, now lock switch not working on 2nd N900 (with 'bad' flex) :/
Jan 14 13:09:00 <bencoh> hmm ... how is lockswitch related to flex?
Jan 14 13:11:17 <Sicelo> i don't know. i don't even know if that's the cause.
Jan 14 13:12:16 <Sicelo> i do know however that flex on N900 can affect stuff which you'd hardly expect it to. anyway, i'll reopen this N900 and see if I didn't make some other mistake
Jan 14 13:13:20 <Sicelo> bencoh: flex seems to have mysteriously causes volume rocker not to work only in media player, but still worked in browser. riddle me that :(
Jan 14 13:13:53 <bencoh> I dunno what flex is used for, so ...
Jan 14 13:14:27 <Sicelo> connects 'top' components of N900 to the 'bottom' ones
Jan 14 13:14:50 <Sicelo> but volume rocker is part of motherboard. doesn't make sense at all (to me)
Jan 14 13:15:47 <bencoh> you said you had issues with earpiece as well?
Jan 14 13:16:15 <bencoh> (or with phone speaker?)
Jan 14 13:16:55 <Sicelo> yes. that's what i 'fiexed' now by changing flex. automagically volume rocker works fine too
Jan 14 13:18:12 <bencoh> what happens if you plug earphones to jack outpu?
Jan 14 13:18:58 <Sicelo> was working perfect. even loudspeaker worked fine
Jan 14 13:19:26 <bencoh> no I mean, when volume rocker "does not work"
Jan 14 13:19:45 <Sicelo> nothing. no volume change whatsoever
Jan 14 13:20:13 <Sicelo> but you could zoom with rocker in browser for example. no issues :p
Jan 14 13:28:24 <Sicelo> anyway, for now i'm happy to have non-working lockswitch when everything else works. 2nd N900 now has 3 problems .. lockswitch issue, possibly dead sd card sensor, and failure to detect earphones (except nokia original headset)
Jan 14 13:28:55 <Sicelo> will reflash it first to see if the earphone problem doesn't get resolved.
Jan 14 14:13:05 <DocScrutinizer05> Sicelo: watch cat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/kb_lock/state
Jan 14 14:18:59 <Sicelo> always says open
Jan 14 14:45:46 <Sicelo> fixed lock-switch :)
Jan 14 14:59:10 <Sicelo> oh, and earpiece gone again :) so officially need to source flex somehow.
Jan 14 15:16:14 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Camera-Flex-Cable-Ribbon-for-Nokia-N900-/170776595505
Jan 14 19:05:13 <freemangordon> Sicelo: so, turned out to be HW failure?
Jan 14 19:47:31 <xelo> is it just me or is maemo.org down?
Jan 14 19:51:27 <Sicelo> freemangordon: yes.
Jan 14 20:15:39 <Sicelo> freemangordon: at least i learned some more about PA on N900 in the meantime ;)
Jan 14 20:27:28 <KotCzarny> hmm, n900 has single flex or two?
Jan 14 20:28:02 <KotCzarny> apparently it sells for ~7usd with free shipping
Jan 14 20:28:19 <KotCzarny> correction, 4.40usd
Jan 14 20:30:12 <KotCzarny> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-FAKE-CAMERA-FLAT-FLEX-CABLE-RIBBON-FOR-NOKIA-N900-A-355-/150661584677?hash=item2314215725:g:fJEAAOSwNSxVDQwK
Jan 14 20:30:19 <KotCzarny> i wonder why it says 'fake camera'
Jan 14 20:30:35 <Sicelo> possibly the front camera
Jan 14 20:31:15 <KotCzarny> free shipping to south africa
Jan 14 20:33:09 <Sicelo> something 'funny' with that one .. the RGB led .. what's going on there
Jan 14 20:33:21 <KotCzarny> where?
Jan 14 20:33:28 <Sicelo> the one you linked
Jan 14 20:34:24 <KotCzarny> one has to double check if its really for n900
Jan 14 20:34:58 <Sicelo> the overall shape checks out, but i think this is really fake as they say :)
Jan 14 20:35:04 <KotCzarny> :)
Jan 14 20:35:58 <Sicelo> DocScrutinizer05: do you think the one you linked would have 'good' RGB LED?
Jan 14 20:39:28 <KotCzarny> funnily enough, local auction site sells the flex for ~20usd
Jan 14 20:41:16 <Sicelo> the only supplier here in SA charges just under $30
Jan 14 20:41:25 <KotCzarny> :)
Jan 14 20:42:03 <Sicelo> i'll make decision as time goes .. i think it's smarter to look for other N900 :)
Jan 14 20:42:26 <KotCzarny> yeah, this one should work fine as a testing ground device
Jan 14 20:46:48 <Sicelo> at least my main N900 working good now. and even this 'bad' one is fine (with only the 3 problems - earphone, sd card, and earpiece). everything else works good
Jan 14 20:47:22 <KotCzarny> btw. sd card not working but camera button/slider wokrs?
Jan 14 20:49:13 <Sicelo> yrd
Jan 14 20:49:15 <Sicelo> yes
Jan 14 20:49:48 <Sicelo> i think the Hall chip is fried .. it's not a bad cover (as the cover works good on my other N900)
Jan 14 20:50:41 <KotCzarny> uhum
Jan 14 20:51:33 <Sicelo> reflash may help .. don't now. just still need to backup my stuff
Jan 14 20:52:24 <KotCzarny> backup whole emmc to pc?
Jan 14 20:55:48 <Sicelo> just a few bits that i need. i don't have a lot on it (secondary device) .. but if sd card works, i'll install proper debian with newer kernel :)
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