**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 20 02:59:59 2016 Jan 20 15:24:27 ~maemo-repos Jan 20 15:24:27 hmm... maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jan 20 15:49:53 ~flasher Jan 20 15:49:53 somebody said flasher was at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jan 20 15:50:03 ~flashing Jan 20 15:50:04 ~images Jan 20 15:50:04 well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Jan 20 15:50:08 use that script Jan 20 15:50:13 that's the thing, thanks Jan 20 16:52:02 ~seen luf Jan 20 16:52:09 luf <~luf@80.188.29.62> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 490d 8h 2m 18s ago, saying: 'I know.'. Jan 20 16:52:24 ~seen luf_ Jan 20 16:52:25 i haven't seen 'luf_', Sicelo Jan 20 16:52:27 ~seen luf__ Jan 20 16:52:28 luf__ <~luf@ip-89-103-184-51.net.upcbroadband.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 8d 18h 43m 39s ago, saying: 'bencoh: As you can see I answered few weeks ago. I'll try pm. Thanks.'. Jan 20 19:39:30 um :/ Jan 20 19:39:34 http://talk.maemo.org/announcement.php?f=&a=7 Jan 20 19:39:36 ? Jan 20 19:39:50 hi Jan 20 19:42:32 um? Jan 20 19:42:36 seems empty Jan 20 19:43:46 probably some live testing Jan 20 19:55:52 finally got my N900 to 'get' Internet from my other phone Jan 20 19:56:54 if i run visudo it says visudo: no editor found (editor path = /bin/vi) Jan 20 19:57:18 ln -s /usr/bin/mcedit /bin/vi Jan 20 19:57:19 ;) Jan 20 19:57:24 or whatever Jan 20 19:57:41 or just edit your env variables Jan 20 19:57:50 infact which vi says /usr/bin/vi Jan 20 19:59:07 i have to try: env editor=/usr/bin/vi visudo ? Jan 20 20:00:33 check ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc Jan 20 20:00:41 and /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc Jan 20 20:00:57 ok Jan 20 20:01:30 oh.. should have added "via bluetooth" :) Jan 20 20:03:54 sicelo: where's the wiki howto? Jan 20 20:04:27 coming. :) Jan 20 20:04:40 :) Jan 20 20:04:42 got to cleanup this thing first. actually there's thread about it Jan 20 20:04:55 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37198 Jan 20 20:04:56 thread is one thing, wiki entry is another Jan 20 20:05:26 did i say that i got orange pi pc? Jan 20 20:06:11 and that chromium is a bit faster than firefox? (or at least hides the rough edges better) Jan 20 20:06:32 not to mention chromium has support for accelerating rendering via egl Jan 20 20:06:42 no. you didn't. but ff is known to be slow 'everywhere' right? Jan 20 20:06:56 actually it annoys me on my pc Jan 20 20:07:05 sicelo: recent firefox releases slowed it down a lot :/ Jan 20 20:07:25 that's what you got for using DOM for UI Jan 20 20:09:44 not to mention mozilla doesnt provide arm linux builds :/ Jan 20 20:09:58 and iceweasel in debian-jessie is ancient (38) Jan 20 20:12:06 on a positive note, 8 core armv7 farm eating <10W ? nice Jan 20 20:13:51 KotCzarny: there's a special iceweasel repo Jan 20 20:14:13 i'm on wheezy with iceweasel 43 Jan 20 20:14:23 arm ? Jan 20 20:14:32 armhf to be exact? Jan 20 20:14:38 ah, no. don't know what's going on there :) Jan 20 20:15:10 when i finish setting things up, i'll try compiling firefox ;) Jan 20 20:15:25 deleting my reddit account. not using it much. RSS serving my needs better Jan 20 20:15:26 hope i wont fry anything Jan 20 20:42:45 Sicelo: bluetooth NAP running here on n900 Jan 20 20:45:04 KotCzarny: congrats on ur orange Jan 20 20:45:39 sunshavi: thx, to be honest it's not that good, but at least it booted and seems to work fine Jan 20 20:46:49 good to know, which one do u prefer? banana|orange|??? Jan 20 20:47:47 sunshavi: i've never used NAP anywhere. Jan 20 20:48:07 i would prefer the one with full support (unfortunatelly both banana and orange are badly supported, if it wasn't for the sunxi community they would've failed Jan 20 20:48:47 KotCzarny: I would like raspberry pi zero Jan 20 20:49:04 naaah, broadcom :/ Jan 20 20:52:57 KotCzarny: mmm, raspberry pi zero, is the cheaper way of getting a device for flashing rom on my laptop, (the gpio pins) Jan 20 20:53:39 um, seriously, those allwinner boards go for 10-20usd Jan 20 20:53:59 KotCzarny: mmm, good price too Jan 20 20:54:48 if you just want simple machine with gpio ports, they are nice, for desktop/laptop replacement, a bit on the slow side Jan 20 20:56:02 their biggest advantage is miniscule power req Jan 20 20:56:16 2-5W for the whole computer? i'm digging it Jan 20 20:57:04 that's great, do u buy it on aliexpress? Jan 20 20:57:05 2-5W though n900 eats 1/10 of that Jan 20 20:57:31 nah, local sites (i'm lazy) Jan 20 20:57:36 then, how to put gpio en n900, :)? Jan 20 20:57:59 no local sites where to get it on my country Jan 20 20:58:14 bt adapter maybe? Jan 20 20:59:08 KotCzarny: bluetooth adapter? Jan 20 20:59:47 just kidding, dont know if such thing exists Jan 20 21:00:28 Sicelo: what it is not working for me on the n900 is the dbus bluetooth connection, it used to work with the python script that is mentioned on the wiki Jan 20 21:02:25 you mean NAP? Jan 20 21:04:17 Sicelo: bluetooth Network Access Point Jan 20 21:04:55 my n800 feed the rest of mobile devices with internet access throught bluetooth Jan 20 21:05:19 It is great for battery life. And also it is great for the planet Jan 20 21:07:15 nice Jan 20 21:07:41 i think i'd use wifi? :? Jan 20 21:08:20 Sicelo: wifi power consumption is hight Jan 20 21:09:13 okay Jan 20 21:51:32 lenovo yoga bluetooth keyboard .. used this for a bit and liked it for N900 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37198 Jan 20 21:51:44 not compact, but really good imo Jan 20 21:51:59 ah, wrong link, http://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo-BKC600-Yoga-10-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Cover/33620211 Jan 20 22:15:34 Sicelo: ping Jan 20 22:15:42 Sicelo009N: ping Jan 20 22:16:30 hi :) Jan 20 22:17:22 Hello ;) I see you were looking for me. Jan 20 22:17:41 was testing the bluetooth speaker thing. unfortunately, it didn't go well. however, i found that the speaker/headset is useable for calls, but audio still comes ut of N900 speakers Jan 20 22:17:55 BTW in bluez 4.99 is DUN and NAP compiled by default. Jan 20 22:18:12 Sicelo009N: Are you able to get debug from bluez? Jan 20 22:18:14 other devices see this bluetooth 'properly' and can play music via it Jan 20 22:18:39 anyway, shitty chinese thing. still going to test with other device sometime Jan 20 22:18:45 I understand but I don't have such device for testing :( Jan 20 22:19:05 i'll hopefully find soon :) Jan 20 22:19:51 let me quickly test the speaker with pc Jan 20 22:20:24 Ok. Anyway I'll be interested in bluez debug :) Jan 20 22:21:11 ok. works with pc, have to specifically choose a2dp profile. Jan 20 22:21:21 N900 bluez log incoming :) Jan 20 22:21:35 got to disconnect DUN first haha Jan 20 22:21:43 Have you enabled debug logs also? Jan 20 22:21:53 ~ping Jan 20 22:21:58 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss Jan 20 22:22:20 i'll enable Jan 20 22:26:03 Sicelo009N: What does it mean pc (linux - what version of bluez/win/...)? Jan 20 22:27:58 ~ii bluez 4.99-2 amd64 Bluetooth tools and daemons Jan 20 22:28:33 ah, incidentally, same version :) Jan 20 22:28:51 Are you sure you're asking the version on PC? Jan 20 22:28:58 amd64 ;) Jan 20 22:29:14 Hmmmm, it's old one. Whate about kernel on PC? Jan 20 22:29:36 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.73-2+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux Jan 20 22:29:42 debian wheezy .. old stuff Jan 20 22:30:07 That's different. But I can't believe it's the root cause ... Jan 20 22:30:53 i think this speaker is part of the problem :) Jan 20 22:31:02 it's both HFP & A2DP Jan 20 22:31:14 so prolly N900 chooses HFP only? Jan 20 22:31:50 because that worked just fine. even pc defaulted to HFP until I switched pulseaudio to A2DP :/ Jan 20 22:32:23 I don't understand. Are you able to do the same on N900? Jan 20 22:33:43 HFP= headset (for calls) Jan 20 22:34:59 HSP=headset if I remember correctly (I'll check). Jan 20 22:35:48 uploading log. just a minute. Jan 20 22:35:52 HFP=Handsfree Jan 20 22:36:36 yep.. that's what N900 sees (and pc defaulted to that) Jan 20 22:37:08 http://paste.debian.net/366891/ Jan 20 22:37:41 media player on N900 just ignored this and played through loudspeaker (which makes sense to me ) Jan 20 22:37:47 Can you get the debug bluez log also on pc? Jan 20 22:39:14 ok. give me a bit. how can i see on N900 what pulseaudio sinks are available now? Jan 20 22:40:07 I forget it :( Jan 20 22:40:22 BTW Sink is for incoming sound, isn't it? Jan 20 22:40:29 Source is for outgoing ... Jan 20 22:41:11 I think Sink is disabled except you enable it explicitly in config (and AFAIK you need also loopback for pulseaudio). Jan 20 22:42:20 hmm, role of sink/source should be changing .. in case of N900->speaker, N900 should be source, and the speaker a sink. i understand sink as the "endpoint" of the audio signal Jan 20 22:42:39 anyway, got to see how Network Manager logs on PC. am on Gnome 3 :( Jan 20 22:43:10 Why NM? I'm interested in bluez log :) Jan 20 22:44:03 lol, with Gnome the whole thing is somehow integrated. but checking my syslog now Jan 20 22:45:44 don't see how to add verbosity. i'll just test for now with default Jan 20 22:47:16 Sicelo: aren't they just somewhere in Journal ? Jan 20 22:47:56 how do i read that? :) Jan 20 22:48:14 no systemd here btw. wheezy was before that Jan 20 22:49:34 syslog not giving anything useful for now :( Jan 20 22:50:27 /etc/event.d/bluetoothd ? /etc/init.d/bluetoothd ? Jan 20 22:50:40 i'm trying to look there Jan 20 22:53:19 luf_: maybe you can see faster than me where to add verbosity: http://paste.debian.net/366895/ Jan 20 22:53:27 that's my /etc/init.d/bluetooth Jan 20 22:54:46 SSD_OPTIONS="--oknodo --quiet --exec $DAEMON" --debug='*'" Jan 20 22:54:48 I guess Jan 20 22:55:10 guess i must remove --quiet as well? Jan 20 22:56:00 BTW let's try MPEG12Sink=1 in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf Jan 20 22:56:12 It seems I mixed source and sink :( Jan 20 22:57:16 okay. debian unhappy with changing that line. bluetooth won't start Jan 20 22:57:35 I'm not so familiar with debian. Jan 20 22:59:17 isn't there some /etc/default/bluetoothd or something like that? Jan 20 22:59:22 (on PC) Jan 20 23:00:03 there is. nothing 'fancy' going on there either :( Jan 20 23:00:26 My mistake. It should be MPEG12Sinks=1 in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf in N900 (section [A2DP]) Jan 20 23:00:58 log coming now now. still audio coming out on N900 speakers Jan 20 23:01:40 ah, Sinks :) Jan 20 23:01:48 Is there still "Unable to select SEP" in the log? Jan 20 23:05:00 http://paste.debian.net/366898/ Jan 20 23:05:52 Is it from N900 with MPEG12Sinks=1 ? Jan 20 23:06:03 (restarted bluez after the config change?) Jan 20 23:06:37 yes. Jan 20 23:07:52 only MPEG12Sinks=1 active in [A2DP] section .. should anything else be active? Jan 20 23:08:04 [SBCSources]? Jan 20 23:08:33 MPEG12Sinks=1 is everything what is interesting for this. Jan 20 23:08:41 I want the log from PC :_ Jan 20 23:08:42 :) Jan 20 23:11:47 hold on :) Jan 20 23:12:07 i have two N900 .. but 2nd one has been asking for non-existent pin. Jan 20 23:12:36 just tried again now, and A2DP working fine on 2nd N900 (with 4.60 bluez) Jan 20 23:12:40 would that help? Jan 20 23:13:12 case SIGUSR2: __btd_toggle_debug(); Jan 20 23:14:06 haha, i'm no dev. what does that mean? Jan 20 23:14:56 it should be enough on PC: kill -USR2 `pidof bluez` Jan 20 23:15:12 it's safer to find the pid of bluez manually Jan 20 23:15:22 I'm not 100% sure with pidof bluez Jan 20 23:15:36 Also log from 4.60 could be interesting. Jan 20 23:15:44 I don't understand :( Jan 20 23:16:12 And feel free to comment/remove MPEG12Sinks from audio.conf Jan 20 23:21:47 lol, damn gnome :p Jan 20 23:21:54 logged me out Jan 20 23:22:04 crash Jan 20 23:24:33 why? I hope not because of kill command. Jan 20 23:27:22 buggy gnome i guess. any easy command line way for me to connect? Jan 20 23:28:35 i've tried DAEMON=/usr/sbin/bluetoothd --debug '* in my conf .. that also didn't help. Jan 20 23:29:14 You can enable debug on running bluez. Jan 20 23:29:27 find the pid of the bluez (maybe pidof bluez) Jan 20 23:29:41 and run kill -USR2 Jan 20 23:29:57 This should enable debug while it's already running. Jan 20 23:30:19 ah. didn't understand you earlier Jan 20 23:36:35 SSD_OPTIONS="--oknodo --verbose --exec $DAEMON" seems to have made some difference :) Jan 20 23:36:49 http://paste.debian.net/366900/ Jan 20 23:37:34 luf_: ^^ .. but all those lines are there 'before' i connect speaker. on connecting, only the last line is added Jan 20 23:39:21 It's not debug ... :( Jan 20 23:39:45 the kill didn't do anything either Jan 20 23:39:57 i'm not sure how to do this Jan 20 23:40:15 :( Jan 20 23:40:28 let me find command line way to initiate connection. gnome is probably hiding lots of the log Jan 20 23:40:36 Can you get debug log from N900 with bluez 4.60 ? Jan 20 23:40:50 There is disconnect in the log ... Jan 20 23:41:15 i restarted at that time Jan 20 23:41:50 But there is no connect ... it seems it was in debug mode before restart. Jan 20 23:43:22 4.99-2 in wheezy seems to be different from N900 ... Strange. Jan 20 23:43:44 okay. my bad. you're right Jan 20 23:43:45 Ops, my mistake :) Jan 20 23:44:04 I was looking for file in wrong directory :) Jan 20 23:44:27 http://paste.debian.net/366902/ Jan 20 23:44:44 if this is not it, then nothing ever will :D Jan 20 23:45:15 a lot more is happening on PC log than on N900 Jan 20 23:45:26 This seems ok. Jan 20 23:45:36 Weird almost same as N900 :( Jan 20 23:45:59 It seems I have to prepare more verbose bluez 4.99 for you. Jan 20 23:46:13 okay Jan 20 23:47:30 I have to compare those 2 logs first. Jan 20 23:47:49 And I'm sorry I'm almost out of time today. Jan 20 23:48:07 I'll try to reach to you next week (it seems). Jan 20 23:48:34 Definitely thank you very much for your cooperation and help in catching this bug. Jan 20 23:51:51 sure. thanks. i'll return the speaker in the meantime. will get it again when i hear from you Jan 20 23:52:17 almost 2AM here too, haha. work at 7:45AM Jan 20 23:54:30 Damn the logs are completely same. The only difference is Unable to select SEP. Jan 20 23:55:49 hmm, i see that part Jan 20 23:57:08 luf_: 1st time pc didn't play either, until i manually chose a2dp (in pulseaudio) .. after that, all reconnects result in 'correct' connection. Jan 20 23:57:21 could that be where the difference comes from? Jan 20 23:57:28 * Sicelo checks what's SEP Jan 20 23:58:05 I'm not sure. Jan 20 23:59:05 pc didn't play could be only wrong pulseaudio source ... Jan 20 23:59:16 And also it works nice with bluez-4.60 .... Jan 21 00:01:07 our pulseaudio<->bluetooth module? correct for our bluez version and pulse version? Jan 21 00:02:14 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1199059/comments/13 <<-- part of "Unable to select SEP" thread Jan 21 00:03:20 anyway :) Jan 21 00:03:29 you know this stuff better Jan 21 00:06:31 It works with other ... e.g with my notebook. Jan 21 00:08:07 Interesting reading. Jan 21 00:08:24 But which side you have to tune pulseaudio? Jan 21 00:09:06 luf, Enable Sources in audio.conf does it :p Jan 21 00:09:13 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756454 Jan 21 00:09:23 got A2DP on my main N900 now Jan 21 00:09:47 that bug was never responded to however Jan 21 00:10:32 Socket rather Jan 21 00:10:33 So it works with 4.99 now? Jan 21 00:10:41 yes Jan 21 00:10:53 i'm playing music right now :) Jan 21 00:11:03 let me get log Jan 21 00:11:18 Ugh. I remember someone reported problem when I enabled Source by default. Jan 21 00:11:24 So I disabled it again :( Jan 21 00:11:50 Strange it works with 4.60 (can you check the audio.conf there?) Jan 21 00:12:00 yes, i have no Socket there Jan 21 00:12:09 BTW I wasn't playing with it for 3 years. I forget a lot of things. Jan 21 00:12:44 Wait. The problem is that Socket is there? Or Source is missing? Jan 21 00:13:29 4.99 needs socket. Jan 21 00:13:55 Strange it's not there by default. Jan 21 00:13:58 Let me check. Jan 21 00:15:39 N900 should have Enable=Gateway,Socket,Source by default in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf Jan 21 00:15:55 Maybe you chose stay with old config during upgrade ... Jan 21 00:16:16 hmm, it was a long time ago. can't remember Jan 21 00:16:26 so self-inflicted pain? :p Jan 21 00:16:33 pebkac hehe Jan 21 00:16:54 Have you had Enabled= in audio.conf or not? Jan 21 00:17:28 Was there Enabled= in audio.conf few minutes/hours ago? Jan 21 00:17:52 i've had it, yes Jan 21 00:18:00 I don't see it in bluez-4.60 ... Jan 21 00:18:06 What was there? Jan 21 00:18:29 What exact version of bluez-4.99 do you have in your N900? Jan 21 00:18:49 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold Jan 21 00:18:50 | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend Jan 21 00:18:50 |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) Jan 21 00:18:51 ||/ Name Version Description Jan 21 00:18:53 +++-===================================================-==========================================-============================================ Jan 21 00:18:56 ii bluez 4.99-2maemo1+0cssu1 Bluetooth tools and daemons Jan 21 00:18:59 ugh. sorry Jan 21 00:20:04 at some time in the past i've played with setting up N900 as audio sink for other devices. maybe i mangled my audio.conf at that time Jan 21 00:20:07 What was your Enable= line? Jan 21 00:20:16 sorry to take you on wild goose chase. Jan 21 00:20:52 No problem. I'm learning again things ;) Jan 21 00:20:53 i had Enable=Source only, but it was commented out Jan 21 00:21:09 i learned too, haha Jan 21 00:21:31 That's great you find the reason. Jan 21 00:21:52 What is your Enable= line on pc? Jan 21 00:21:56 I'm just curious. Jan 21 00:22:21 Enable=Source,Sink,Media,Socket Jan 21 00:24:21 Hmmm. I have Enable=Gateway,Socket,Source Jan 21 00:24:32 I see in the bug report that maybe it Jan 21 00:24:46 it's not good idea to have both Gateway and Source Jan 21 00:24:50 what? Jan 21 00:24:51 together. Jan 21 00:24:53 ah Jan 21 00:30:15 Sicelo009N: Can you please write the result to the tmo? Jan 21 00:30:24 https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95752&page=3 Jan 21 00:30:34 Thank you very much once again. Jan 21 00:30:56 long done :P Jan 21 00:32:11 https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1495734&postcount=22 Jan 21 00:39:12 I can go to the bed with nice feeling ... one less bug :D Jan 21 00:39:44 I have to make ready several memory leaks fixes fir eds and obexd ... Jan 21 00:40:12 But definitely next week. Jan 21 00:41:59 Now I need to contact impeham from tmo or someone else who is able to reproduce the problem from https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95752 (end of streaming because of PBAP or iRMC). Jan 21 00:42:38 :) Jan 21 00:42:55 pity i don't have access to something that can use that Jan 21 00:58:27 That can use what? Jan 21 00:58:44 You can try PBAB from pc ;) Jan 21 00:59:14 There is pbap-client in obexd-client or obexd-test package ... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 21 02:59:58 2016