**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 16 02:59:59 2016 Feb 16 03:43:11 ohmy, driveby askers :-/ cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch Feb 16 05:09:49 hello Feb 16 05:10:08 can someone tell me how to get gchat working Feb 16 05:10:32 i have two step auth Feb 16 05:12:31 disable it Feb 16 05:33:15 no Feb 16 05:33:30 i can't do that Feb 16 05:51:28 why not? Feb 16 05:55:04 because it's there for a reason? Feb 16 06:06:22 If you want to use gtalk on CSSU you will probably need to turn it off Feb 16 06:37:14 Why? /I get that it's broken, I just wonder where-how it's broken/ Feb 16 06:39:46 my gtalk definitely signs in no problem (no two-factor auth) Feb 16 06:46:30 fishbulb thinks it's really the best thing since sliced bread. some of us do not want to give our mobile numbers to places like google Feb 16 10:01:31 moin Feb 16 15:27:41 Oksana: do you know if media player (or tracker) can recognize other id3 tags besides album, artist, and title? Feb 16 15:59:43 https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2016-02/msg00416.html Feb 16 16:06:58 isnt it nice? Feb 16 16:07:22 Wizzup: ohwow Feb 16 16:10:03 looks like maemo is stuck to glibc-2.5? Feb 16 16:10:09 I wonder if the bug was backported :p Feb 16 16:12:51 lol Feb 16 16:13:07 it's about IPv6, no? Feb 16 16:13:13 no. Feb 16 16:13:19 resp AAAA Feb 16 16:14:14 I wonder if that's a bug imported to CSSU Feb 16 19:38:25 please everybody make sure to update all your glibc based systems Feb 16 19:44:41 bsd 4 lyfe Feb 16 20:03:57 looks more and more tempting Feb 16 20:04:57 linux feels like it passed the "who cares about security and stability as long as the system provides my favorite fart app" line years ago Feb 16 20:06:43 install openbsd! Feb 16 20:06:55 well, prolly systemd will fix such issues like CVE-2015-7547 as well, or already did? by simply swallowing resolver Feb 16 21:57:20 DocScrutinizer05: may 2008 ... "apps" barely existed, android was still an embryo ;) Feb 16 21:57:58 DocScrutinizer05: there are many good linux distros that are secure and simple, and don't suffer from many bsd problems Feb 16 21:58:12 DocScrutinizer05: alpine linux is one of those Feb 16 21:58:15 I mostly use gentoo myself Feb 16 21:58:23 It's in some ways closer to BSD than most distros Feb 16 21:58:55 I personally see no value in BSD, since their kernel, like Linux is monolothic. And in almost anything, the linux kernel is better: drivers, or aslr+pax, perf, etc. Feb 16 22:00:36 what is zfs Feb 16 22:01:54 I wouldn't say the linux kernel is better than the openbsd one regarding, say, aslr/pax :) Feb 16 22:02:20 drivers aren't that better either afaict Feb 16 22:02:30 the lack of drivers can be an issue Feb 16 22:02:31 perf, on the other hand ... Feb 16 22:02:38 but i'd bet on the quality of the openbsd drivers every time Feb 16 22:03:01 they simply don't support shit if they can't make good drivers from good specifications Feb 16 22:03:35 kerio: remember when they implemented the openbsd wireless broadcom driver? :) Feb 16 22:03:49 (and linux was still stuck to some shitty closed blob) Feb 16 22:04:12 still doesn't support the latest revision of the hardware tho :( Feb 16 22:08:04 bencoh: grsecurity is way, way ahead of openbsd Feb 16 22:08:28 even though openbsd likes to claim it lead the field, it's really just following pax' lead, and often not doing it that well Feb 16 22:08:50 zfs replacement? mwah. There's ZOL and btrfs. Neither are as good. but I din't need zfs on most of my machines. Feb 16 22:09:32 unfortunately grsec is no longer a really stable and opensource solution for me ... Feb 16 22:09:40 https://grsecurity.net/~spender/pics/dsc18910.jpg Feb 16 22:09:44 been using it for *years*, but... Feb 16 22:09:51 well, it's stable *or* opensource Feb 16 22:09:58 I'm still running old stable versions... Feb 16 22:10:32 going to sleep, afk :) Feb 16 22:10:51 haha, nice pic :) Feb 16 22:12:07 'night :) Feb 16 22:13:33 why the heck can't they place their pics upright? Feb 16 22:14:31 ? Feb 16 22:16:31 can't waste time rotating pictures when you have to shitpost about openbsd Feb 16 22:18:11 it shows properly in firefox (?) Feb 16 22:22:44 bencoh: sure? http://wstaw.org/m/2016/02/16/plasma-desktoptX3616.png Feb 16 22:23:20 DocScrutinizer05: well, at least it does, here... Feb 16 22:23:41 so what the heck? Feb 16 22:25:12 dunno, but I'm running a freaking old version, so either it doesnt care about some orientation flag, or recent versions are fucked up really bad :] Feb 16 22:27:08 it doesn't show properly here Feb 16 22:27:26 or in chromium Feb 16 22:39:53 is anyone actively handling security for CSSU? Feb 16 22:40:00 https://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.ca/2016/02/cve-2015-7547-glibc-getaddrinfo-stack.html Feb 16 22:41:32 (right before I leave for only having access via very untrusted wifi networks..) Feb 16 22:47:58 Luke-Jr: I already hollered :-) Feb 16 22:48:07 actually Wizzup did Feb 16 22:48:12 why do we need DNS Feb 16 22:48:15 let's just use ip addresses Feb 16 22:48:27 right on right on :-D Feb 16 22:48:34 great Feb 16 22:48:37 let's just use tor hidden services Feb 16 22:48:44 I was about to leave, so I just pulled my NIC until I got home Feb 16 22:48:49 lmao Feb 16 22:49:00 kerio: namecoin + tor would potentially work nicely Feb 16 22:49:22 OpenSuse13.1 still has no patches Feb 16 22:51:44 Gentoo either, but I backported it myself Feb 16 22:53:13 I haven't updated my N900 in months Feb 16 22:53:25 I wonder how safe it is to do right before I'm travelling with it as my primary PC Feb 16 22:53:26 years? ;) Feb 16 22:53:36 KotCzarny: since whenever I switched to Thumb CSSU ;) Feb 16 22:53:54 is there any reason to think I could brick it? Feb 16 22:54:52 a better question is Feb 16 22:55:13 I'm updating my backups now, yes Feb 16 22:55:15 why don't you already have uboot flashed on nand and rescueos installed on emmc *and* usd Feb 16 22:55:41 I don't even know what half that is Feb 16 22:55:52 oh, uSD Feb 16 22:56:03 usd looks like teh US Dollar to me :P Feb 16 23:37:13 eeeek Feb 16 23:37:48 sinisalo just shit the bed Feb 16 23:37:50 and died Feb 16 23:45:39 kerio: lol Feb 16 23:46:03 not weekend. unusual Feb 16 23:48:11 maybe glibc update :) Feb 16 23:49:15 still Feb 16 23:49:20 adams is actually better for me Feb 16 23:49:40 20 versus 35ms Feb 16 23:49:49 it's a damn shame that they moved wilhelm Feb 17 00:07:58 Im trying to use the Frankfurth one Feb 17 00:08:29 H+sth Feb 17 00:09:09 that one is ipv4 only Feb 17 00:09:39 i had a 0.5ms RTT to wilhelm.freenode.net :'( Feb 17 00:09:54 nah KORNBLUTH Feb 17 00:10:22 not H* Feb 17 00:11:51 you know that freenode infra scanner bot? Feb 17 00:12:03 no Feb 17 00:12:25 I?ll query you when back home Feb 17 00:32:38 ohmy Feb 17 02:21:46 Sicelo: Good question. What are id3 tags? Could you please find an audio file with lots of id3 tags, for testing? For example, "tracker-info FILE" recognises title, artist, album, duration, release date, and track number, for a flac file I have, but I wouldn't be sure if these tags are id3 or not... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 17 02:59:59 2016