**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 02 02:59:59 2016 Mar 02 10:29:25 moin Mar 02 11:25:56 What is gtk-config? Mar 02 11:26:17 tool to change some gtk theme settings? Mar 02 11:26:29 just kidding Mar 02 11:26:45 it's the thing that prints include and linking paths Mar 02 11:26:50 I cannot find anything like gtk-config on maemo 5 fremantle Mar 02 11:27:11 it's only needed if you want to compile things on device Mar 02 11:27:31 should be in libgtk*-dev package Mar 02 11:27:31 yes, I am trying to compile soundtracker Mar 02 11:27:59 you can fake it by writing simple shell script Mar 02 11:29:03 libgtk2.0-dev ? Mar 02 11:29:08 probably Mar 02 11:32:14 Nay, already installed, and no gtk-config in it Mar 02 11:32:25 then just copy from desktop Mar 02 11:33:10 windows user, unfortunately Mar 02 11:33:27 and too lazy to switch on the desktop, anyway Mar 02 11:33:53 http://pastebin.com/raw/eBAJw6uq Mar 02 11:34:04 ahm, wait, that's 1.2 Mar 02 11:34:20 any difference? Mar 02 11:34:42 hrm, 2.0 and 1.2 use incompatible headers i guess Mar 02 11:35:20 but i dont see 2.0 one, so it might be your package tries to use gtk1.2 Mar 02 11:35:36 so it does Mar 02 11:35:38 which might be true because soundtracker is old Mar 02 11:35:48 then install libgtk1.2-dev Mar 02 11:37:11 will it even work? Mar 02 11:37:18 yes Mar 02 11:37:28 i had xmms on the n900 (which uses gtk1.2) Mar 02 11:37:44 and you can have both installed 1.2 and 2.0 Mar 02 11:41:29 okay, where to get libgtk1.2-dev in deb? http://archive.debian.net/lenny/oldlibs/libglib1.2-dev Mar 02 11:42:17 gtk, not glib Mar 02 11:43:09 you can just compile it, and yes, old debian ones should work too Mar 02 11:43:51 ouchy... libgtk1.2-dev, libglib1.2-dev, libgtk1.2... Mar 02 11:44:07 yup, debian style Mar 02 11:48:28 libgtk1.2-common... Mar 02 11:48:49 * Oksanaa feels a need for hildon-gui tracker Mar 02 11:50:41 hildon-gui tracker? what would that be? Mar 02 11:52:04 Like, MilkyTracker, SoundTracker, Buzztrax. Only, touchfriendly, hildon-based... Mar 02 11:52:27 dont use the word 'hildon' Mar 02 11:52:46 what you mean is: touch-ui music tracker app Mar 02 11:53:46 Yes, but I mean, I would prefer the hildon-stylised GUI. Not sure what's the correct name for this GTK+based GUI Mar 02 11:53:59 hildon uses gtk Mar 02 11:54:13 But it's more than Gtk Mar 02 11:54:37 Just take a look at navit's gtk gui: it's cluttered and tiny Mar 02 11:54:42 take any generic gtk2 based app and run without any hildonizing on n900 Mar 02 11:54:43 you will see Mar 02 11:55:02 yes, that's the 'touch-ui' part Mar 02 11:55:40 * Oksanaa thought there are hildon-widgets built atop gtk widgets Mar 02 11:55:55 * Oksanaa did not code for a long time, though Mar 02 11:59:04 Thank you. gtk-config is here, now Mar 02 12:14:15 Oksanaa: cutetube is hildonized (using qt-hildon-something), I'm pretty sure what you mean is gtk/hildon :) Mar 02 12:14:54 (I guess you dont really fancy qt apps ;) Mar 02 18:14:16 hmm, anyone ever played with scratchbox running on arm? Mar 02 18:26:05 not much point in running qemu-arm on arm Mar 02 18:26:12 it might be even slower than on n900 itself Mar 02 18:27:03 tho sandboxing maemo devel stuff away in lxc on a decent arm computer sounds good Mar 02 19:17:59 Wouldn't it just run the arm things without qemu? Mar 02 19:18:17 Like how it seems to run x86 things without qemu on x86. Mar 02 19:23:24 maxd, but installer puts things with x86 in mind Mar 02 19:23:32 so it wont run out of the box Mar 02 19:23:56 and i'm thinking about having maemo dev env on native armel Mar 02 19:24:21 (without dirupting host, so some kind of chroot is a must) Mar 02 19:36:31 doesn't it just use binfmt for qemu? Mar 02 19:39:26 so it would run at native speed? Mar 02 19:39:39 i mean Mar 02 19:39:44 there's definetely stuff that will go wrong Mar 02 19:39:46 it's scratchbox Mar 02 19:40:28 well, tools in sb are x86 Mar 02 19:40:40 so gcc wont run at all Mar 02 19:44:44 Funny... Soundtracker is here, but no text whatsoever in its gui. Numbers are here, letters aren't Mar 02 19:46:09 probably missing x fonts Mar 02 19:46:18 (bitmap ones, not truetype) Mar 02 19:46:50 x on n900 doesnt use disk fonts, only builtins for bitmap fonts Mar 02 19:47:49 huh, and what is the package for bitmap fonts? Mar 02 19:48:03 see above: needs recompiled x server Mar 02 19:48:27 Nay, no, not a chance in... Mar 02 19:48:33 Right? Mar 02 19:49:04 but i might be wrong, otoh my memory says i had similar problem Mar 02 19:49:44 Hmpf. Strange X installation. You don't have the 5x8 font? Mar 02 19:49:57 no nothing Mar 02 19:50:04 only ttf fonts are supported Mar 02 19:57:36 wait, what? no! Mar 02 19:57:54 xlsfonts or it didnt happen :P Mar 02 19:58:13 xset +fp Mar 02 19:58:30 you need to add your font folder to X font path Mar 02 19:58:32 i think i have tried it Mar 02 19:59:44 KotCzarny: I use iso10646 fixed (5x8, 6x13, 7x14, ...) fonts here Mar 02 19:59:53 hmm Mar 02 20:00:03 and you can add the misc/ folder either using xset +fp Mar 02 20:00:07 or editing xorg conf Mar 02 20:00:19 gotta try it tomorrow Mar 02 20:00:35 xorg.conf, ection "Files", FontPath Mar 02 20:02:23 fixed fonts comme with xfonts-base package and they sit in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc Mar 02 20:03:23 come* Mar 02 20:05:48 Oksanaa: ^ btw Mar 02 20:05:49 Thank you :-) Will check it out **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 03 02:59:58 2016