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Mar 03 08:14:31 <fishbulb> the usb in my n900 is finally failing
Mar 03 08:14:44 <Defiant> welcome to the club
Mar 03 08:15:10 <fishbulb> hah, you think maybe 7 years is outside of the expected lifespan maybe?
Mar 03 08:16:28 <fishbulb> I would solder it but I have a "spare"
Mar 03 08:16:52 <fishbulb> how do I transfer my texts contacts and calendar
Mar 03 08:20:48 <fishbulb> it would be wise to transfer the stuff to the slightly less abused phone before attempting any usb soldering
Mar 03 08:26:04 <KotCzarny> fishbulb: use backupmenu
Mar 03 08:26:08 <KotCzarny> ~bm
Mar 03 08:26:08 <infobot> well, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975
Mar 03 08:28:25 <fishbulb> this is going to be fun :|
Mar 03 09:53:17 <zGrr> moin
Mar 03 11:11:55 <fishbulb> ok
Mar 03 11:11:58 <fishbulb> the usb of my phone just broke
Mar 03 11:12:23 <fishbulb> I have one left with a good motherboard and keypad
Mar 03 11:13:29 <fishbulb> I have a soldering iron and the usb hasn't come out, I think one or two traces must have come loose because it would charge with the cord bent underneath it
Mar 03 11:13:45 <fishbulb> then it stopped charging altogether
Mar 03 11:14:12 <fishbulb> it plugs in and unplugs though
Mar 03 11:14:18 <fishbulb> the port isn't ripped out
Mar 03 11:15:33 <bencoh> then stop plugging/unplugging until you resolder
Mar 03 11:15:49 <fishbulb> yes obviously
Mar 03 11:16:05 <fishbulb> where's the soldering guide?
Mar 03 11:17:17 <fishbulb> unless it's easier to transfer everything to another one?
Mar 03 11:19:02 <fishbulb> data I mean
Mar 03 11:19:05 <freemangordon> ~usbport
Mar 03 11:19:10 <freemangordon> ~usb
Mar 03 11:19:10 <infobot> i guess usb is Unusable Serial Bus.  Useless Serial Bus.  Ugly Stupid Bus
Mar 03 11:19:13 <freemangordon> heh
Mar 03 11:19:22 <freemangordon> ~listfacts usb
Mar 03 11:20:47 <fishbulb> monkey see
Mar 03 11:21:14 <freemangordon> ~listkeys usb
Mar 03 11:21:15 <infobot> Factoid search of 'usb' by key (19 of 45): 2.4.18 usbnet ;; ibot's usb ;; marcusbrutus ;; musb ;; new usbdnet ;; pam_usb ;; rdiff-backup-usbstorage ;; uk usb keyboards ;; unplug-usb ;; usb ;; usb backport ;; usb mouse ;; usb networking ;; usb patch ;; usb-bootldr ;; usb-bootldr-status ;; usb-brush ;; usb-fix ;; usb-host.
Mar 03 11:21:28 <freemangordon> ~usb-fix
Mar 03 11:21:29 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt
Mar 03 11:23:22 <fishbulb> that guy's voice is like nails on a chalkboard
Mar 03 11:23:36 <fishbulb> I know HOW to solder but thanks for the link
Mar 03 11:25:57 <KotCzarny> fishbulb i told you about backupmenu
Mar 03 11:26:09 <KotCzarny> do it, then move the card to second n900, done
Mar 03 11:30:13 <fishbulb> um
Mar 03 11:30:26 <fishbulb> I'd have to move the screen too
Mar 03 11:30:39 <fishbulb> that's halfway to just opening the rest and doing the usb
Mar 03 11:33:06 <bencoh> fishbulb: read the service manuals
Mar 03 11:33:28 <bencoh> before taking it apart
Mar 03 11:36:00 <fishbulb> what are you talking about
Mar 03 11:36:06 <fishbulb> service manuals?
Mar 03 11:36:33 <zGrr> is the neo900 project still alive?
Mar 03 11:37:58 <bencoh> fishbulb: nokia service manuals
Mar 03 11:38:04 <bencoh> ~listkeys manual
Mar 03 11:38:05 <infobot> Factoid search of 'manual' by key (14 of 18): install manual ;; asterisk manual ;; ibot manual ;; ibot's manual ;; in ibot's manual, you say there ;; sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers" ;; sector manually. it ;; oe-manual ;; lilo manual ;; possibly the manual ;; tomcat manual ;; manual ;; apache manual ;; opie usermanual.
Mar 03 11:38:11 <bencoh> meh
Mar 03 11:38:26 <bencoh> iirc there'is a link on wiki; or on google; or in some github repo
Mar 03 11:38:35 <fishbulb> I've taken a lot of these apart bencoh
Mar 03 11:38:45 <fishbulb> just the one with the ripped out usb I didn't manage to fix
Mar 03 11:40:00 <KotCzarny> fishbulb: google: nokia n9 l1 service manual
Mar 03 11:40:49 <fishbulb> what?
Mar 03 11:40:54 <fishbulb> this is an n900
Mar 03 11:41:16 <KotCzarny> yesh
Mar 03 11:41:22 <KotCzarny> google: nokia n900 l1 service manual
Mar 03 11:42:50 <fishbulb> I'm staring at an actual pile of electronic components on one of my armchairs here
Mar 03 11:43:16 <fishbulb> a literal pile of caps resistors ICs shift registers blah blah blah. soldering etc isn't foreign to me
Mar 03 11:43:53 <bencoh> :)
Mar 03 11:44:12 <bencoh> should be quite an easy fix then
Mar 03 11:44:54 <fishbulb> but the last one sans usb port that I tried to repair with a new part, ended up non functional
Mar 03 11:45:16 <fishbulb> that was missing actual traces from the "motherboard"
Mar 03 11:45:35 <KotCzarny> you can connect usb port to test point on the board
Mar 03 11:45:38 <fishbulb> well it's up to me now
Mar 03 12:09:14 <fishbulb> how many of you have resoldered the usb successfully?
Mar 03 12:09:19 <fishbulb> one that didn't work?
Mar 03 13:16:24 <fishbulb> has anyone here successfully resoldered a usb port?
Mar 03 13:17:02 <fishbulb> pointing to those picture repair guides is one thing but getting it to work is another
Mar 03 13:17:24 <KotCzarny> i think jonwil did it
Mar 03 13:17:37 <KotCzarny> (not by himself, but found someone that fixed his n900)
Mar 03 13:30:41 <L29Ah> i did
Mar 03 13:30:56 <L29Ah> not on n900 tho, but it's always the same
Mar 03 13:32:32 <L29Ah> carefully looking for leads and vias left intact, soldering to them and securing everything with a good bunch of epoxy, that is
Mar 03 13:36:20 <bencoh> err, really, expoxy? :/
Mar 03 13:38:05 <L29Ah> you don't have any other options to secure it, do you?
Mar 03 13:38:52 <L29Ah> and every ripoff leave with less copper to solder and -1h of lifetime
Mar 03 13:39:10 <L29Ah> *leave you
Mar 03 13:50:33 <Sicelo> fishbulb: i resoldered my 2 N900 (one with broken tracks). resoldered N9 too. fwiw, all 3 were my first smd soldering attempts ever
Mar 03 13:51:11 <fishbulb> smd?
Mar 03 13:51:37 <Sicelo> surface mount
Mar 03 13:51:57 <fishbulb> you mean the usb to motherboard
Mar 03 13:52:00 <fishbulb> or smd components
Mar 03 13:54:49 <Sicelo> :-\
Mar 03 13:55:24 <Sicelo> guess i'll say both
Mar 03 13:56:10 <Sicelo> soldering the usb port is obviously much different from soldering regular size resistors onto a pcb
Mar 03 14:31:51 <KotCzarny> usb port is trickier because leads are underneath
Mar 03 14:40:39 <Sicelo> and too close to each other
Mar 03 19:22:03 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget n ibot's manual, you say there
Mar 03 19:22:03 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i didn't have anything called 'n ibot's manual, you say there' to forget
Mar 03 19:22:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers"
Mar 03 19:22:24 <infobot> i forgot sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers", DocScrutinizer05
Mar 03 19:22:37 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget sector manually. it
Mar 03 19:22:37 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i forgot sector manually. it
Mar 03 19:22:49 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget possibly the manual
Mar 03 19:22:49 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i forgot possibly the manual
Mar 03 19:23:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget in ibot's manual, you say there
Mar 03 19:23:25 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i forgot in ibot's manual, you say there
Mar 03 20:06:17 <Oksanaa> So, how to go about editing source code on garage and feeding it to auto-builder? http://talk.maemo.com/showpost.php?p=1456805&postcount=167
Mar 03 20:06:47 <Oksanaa> I just want to try and make text in mstardict selectable
Mar 03 20:07:30 <Oksanaa> I do have account on garage, but web gui does not seem to have an "edit" button near the code?
Mar 03 20:54:16 <hellekin> hello
Mar 03 20:54:32 <Sicelo> hi
Mar 03 20:54:41 <DocScrutinizer05> hi hellekin
Mar 03 20:54:54 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell hellekin about flashing
Mar 03 20:55:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell hellekin about jrrepos
Mar 03 20:55:58 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell hellekin about cssu
Mar 03 20:56:54 <hellekin> DocScrutinizer05: https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware is 403
Mar 03 20:57:08 <DocScrutinizer05> o.O
Mar 03 20:57:22 <DocScrutinizer05> TOR?
Mar 03 20:57:53 <hellekin> Tor yes
Mar 03 20:57:58 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway focus on second halp of that factoid
Mar 03 20:58:05 <DocScrutinizer05> half
Mar 03 20:58:37 <DocScrutinizer05> https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware has lots of useful info but lacks useful links
Mar 03 20:58:58 <DocScrutinizer05> my flash-it-all is convenient to use
Mar 03 20:59:41 <hellekin> a colleague of mine has a N900 and knows how to flash it so I'm not worried.  I was just curious about a recommended firmware image you would prefer.
Mar 03 20:59:56 <DocScrutinizer05> flash-it-all.sh
Mar 03 21:00:10 <DocScrutinizer05> please just follow the recommendation
Mar 03 21:00:36 <hellekin> sounds effective :)
Mar 03 21:00:40 <DocScrutinizer05> it is
Mar 03 21:02:59 <bencoh> ~jrrepos
Mar 03 21:02:59 <infobot> [jrrepos] http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/
Mar 03 21:03:05 <bencoh> ah, ok :)
Mar 03 21:03:42 <DocScrutinizer05> you need the right libusb on your system for flash-it-all to work
Mar 03 21:04:34 <DocScrutinizer05> I couldn't take care for that inside the script since handling package installation is too distro specific
Mar 03 21:05:50 <DocScrutinizer05> the flasher will throw a rather useless error message when the right libusb version is missing
Mar 04 01:33:11 <DocScrutinizer05> hellekin: 
Mar 04 01:33:15 <DocScrutinizer05> ~jrtools
Mar 04 01:33:15 <infobot> i guess jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
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