**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 13 02:59:58 2016 Mar 13 11:18:22 Dear Mussorgsky users: do you remember the feature to edit album art-picture? The one which takes "ages" to work /since it uses Internet/ and does not allow to browse images from local fs? Mar 13 11:20:10 Well, congratulations: entirely by accident, an image from local fs became the cover for one of my albums. This bug has my thanks, but take care: it can have unpleasant consequences if unrestrained, and it happened while I was editing Metadata /not Album Art/ Mar 13 13:29:55 mussorgsky, I considered that broken a long time ago. Mar 13 13:53:33 hmm I thought this was still my tool of choice to edit metadata of all kind (incl album art) of any albums Mar 13 13:53:50 I didn't use it for ages though Mar 13 13:54:33 then otoh the album art in Amarok also is sort of broken Mar 13 13:55:00 web interface changed? Mar 13 14:41:56 * L29Ah found his empty aliexpress packages Mar 13 14:42:06 now i'm ready for n900fly contest Mar 13 14:58:25 :D Mar 13 14:58:46 too lazy Mar 13 16:35:53 i tried musorgsky, but it didn't work. Or could't figure out how to use it. Mar 13 16:39:16 Use musicbrainz on desktop for album art etc here. easier to do on desktop and sync IMO Mar 13 16:39:24 ah btw laptop is now ordered. I hope it is good. hp 350 i3 5010U, 4gb ram, win 8.1 Mar 13 16:41:28 i use rhythmbox to tweak id tags on desktop Mar 13 16:42:12 i just use patchs/filenames Mar 13 16:42:19 *paths Mar 13 17:17:54 Vajb: hp alvays overpriced with low spec... Mar 13 17:18:33 part of the price is the support Mar 13 17:24:33 KotCzarny: if support matter is dell ones... Mar 13 18:56:35 drathir: that was cheapest with that cpu. Others in same range had i3 5005U Mar 13 18:57:06 Vajb: no macbook? :( Mar 13 18:57:20 though that wasn't first choise, Mar 13 18:57:28 'choice' Mar 13 18:57:30 but the one that could be bough Mar 13 18:57:34 'bought' Mar 13 18:57:40 thx KotCzarny Mar 13 18:57:44 yw Mar 13 18:57:55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWPY8UFWXcQ Mar 13 18:58:00 im in love with this song Mar 13 18:58:18 and i love google. found it via part of the lyrics Mar 13 18:58:28 first choice was lenovo 50-80 i3 4030U 8gb ram and 1tb hdd Mar 13 18:59:20 but two web shops that offered it encountered an error without explanation so couldn't make order Mar 13 19:01:03 kerio: no, no macbook. Budget ended up to be less than 400€ Mar 13 19:01:15 but super fast, right Mar 13 19:01:27 :| Mar 13 19:01:47 well for sure i'll hear it once in awhile if it is not... Mar 13 19:02:00 :) Mar 13 19:02:38 but it has to be faster than acer aspire 5315, right Mar 13 19:02:53 acers are budget machines Mar 13 19:02:56 9yo with celeron cpu Mar 13 19:03:16 and *drumm roll* windows vista Mar 13 19:03:39 :) Mar 13 19:03:50 hmm Mar 13 19:04:09 * Vajb goes to cpuboss to compare processors of these two Mar 13 19:06:02 7.4 vs 1.7 Mar 13 19:10:57 singlecore comprison?? Mar 13 19:13:15 Vajb: rasus 556-lb-xo154d Mar 13 19:13:42 Vajb: asus r556-lb-xo154d* Mar 13 19:14:17 total score Mar 13 19:14:31 compare singlecore Mar 13 19:14:45 thats often most interesting Mar 13 19:14:51 7.5 - 5.6 Mar 13 19:15:01 Vajb: nothin better in performance vs low price... Mar 13 19:15:30 drathir: how about second hand i5 thinkpad? :P Mar 13 19:15:55 drathir: that brand name sounds familiar, but i recall that that went over budget slightly Mar 13 19:16:31 KotCzarny: speakin about brand new from shop... ofc second hand much wider possibility of chose... Mar 13 19:16:49 i'm going to buy thinkpad t500 (with ati 3650) tomorrow for ~400pln Mar 13 19:17:00 4gb of ram, 2.4G cpu, 320G hdd Mar 13 19:17:22 400pln == ~110usd Mar 13 19:19:25 KotCzarny: yea from second hand possible to find nice top grade past generation ones, but there lucky needed a little... Mar 13 19:19:34 yup Mar 13 19:19:45 but then you get the best bang for your buck Mar 13 19:20:25 KotCzarny: like was in past that titan ones cases ibm, bulletproof ones... Mar 13 19:20:35 yup Mar 13 19:20:52 still, it will be my oldie gaming rig Mar 13 19:21:55 from old ones asus x550vb reccomend too but hard to find ones... Mar 13 19:22:01 can't find that exact asus model anywhere here Mar 13 19:22:49 drathir: i prefer blockiness of thinkpads Mar 13 19:23:03 hate those curves on laptops Mar 13 19:26:05 what puzzles me the most is that they sell laptops with exact same brand name, but with different specs Mar 13 19:26:25 vajb, yup, you have to check exact type Mar 13 19:26:31 all those little letters matter Mar 13 19:26:42 what's the logic behind that? Mar 13 19:26:56 preconfigured machines Mar 13 19:27:13 Vajb: there'll be many variants of a VW 1.4 ;) Mar 13 19:27:20 in thinkpads there is a special type when customer wishes special config Mar 13 19:27:20 *Golf Mar 13 19:27:40 and then there is: Type xxxx-CTO (customised to order) Mar 13 19:28:07 Sicelo: for sure one option aint 1.9 tdi, if u go to see 1.4 golf specs ;) Mar 13 19:28:30 vajb: you can have different cpus too Mar 13 19:28:38 celeron vs full, i3 vs i5 etc Mar 13 19:29:10 ok so sellers can preorder their laptops with weaker gear if they wanna make them look "cheaper" than store next door? Mar 13 19:29:36 Vajb: in shops mostly almost the same specs not worth one, but diff prices... Mar 13 19:29:54 vajb, it's more about 'i want configured it like that that, oh, this preconfigured system fits me' Mar 13 19:30:00 then it gets shipped faster Mar 13 19:30:07 hard to find at markets any reasonale offers sadly... Mar 13 19:30:15 also, it makes easier to find specs of particular machine Mar 13 19:32:30 Vajb: that why in asus needed full name bc its points to correct hw, even marked os... Mar 13 19:32:41 yup Mar 13 19:32:44 full config Mar 13 19:33:06 in thinkpads its kind of: thinkpad t520 type xxxx-yyy Mar 13 19:33:22 i c Mar 13 19:33:47 i tried to look that particular asus, but only match i got were on polish sites Mar 13 19:34:04 so i guess it varies over countries too Mar 13 19:34:57 it said to have i5 5200u processor and only asus i cn buy here with that processors is 17" model with price tag 799 Mar 13 19:35:10 Vajb: yea i guess almost all brands have regional offers... often even bc of power suppy sadly... Mar 13 19:35:26 yeah Mar 13 19:42:59 Vajb: and from really cheap ones lenovo g50-80 if good remmember with dedi radeon r5 330m if good remember... but is huge performance difference to listed earlier... that one is weaker one... Mar 13 19:52:05 there were two options of that lenovo we were looking. Other was i3 4030 and other i3 5005 Mar 13 19:52:22 also one had dvd other didn't Mar 13 19:52:29 did you buy ssd too? Mar 13 19:52:41 as its the big factor in speedy ui Mar 13 19:53:45 Vajb: for performance one primary search 740m/940m and i5 at least... Mar 13 19:54:43 ssd was over budget. Or well 128gb was option, but was considered too small Mar 13 19:55:01 vajb, put in the todo list Mar 13 19:55:23 to buy ssd hdd? Mar 13 19:55:26 really, and then move big hdd into dvd slot Mar 13 19:55:27 also avoid 17" them mostly much more expensive bc of jump price betwenn 15 to 17" jump in size... Mar 13 19:57:55 Vajb: ssd and ram mostly 4G min is fine that always possible to add other parts like cpu/gpu harder... Mar 13 20:06:19 ok. Will know "if it was what was expected when it arrives" :) Mar 13 20:06:30 then i'll plan possible changes Mar 13 20:06:52 remember, you can install os on ssd, and keep your data on 2nd hdd Mar 13 20:07:57 yeah, that is, if i wanna sacrifice dvd slot Mar 13 20:08:36 how often do you use it? Mar 13 20:09:06 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41T-V0UubqL._SS400_.jpg Mar 13 20:10:27 depends from weekly to monthly Mar 13 20:10:36 hmm varies* Mar 13 20:10:55 then you will do fine with usb adapter for dvd Mar 13 20:12:21 oh, it is just sort of adapter cable for excisting drive Mar 13 20:12:27 yes Mar 13 20:12:36 sata to usb really Mar 13 20:12:49 + proper connector Mar 13 20:12:59 there even cases external one but prices differ... Mar 13 20:13:21 you can even get full enclosure http://image.dhgate.com/albu_108482617_00/1.0x0.jpg Mar 13 20:15:12 hmm is there such cables for ide too? Or they require external power supply? Mar 13 20:15:37 mobile ide provides power too usually (44pin) Mar 13 20:15:42 Vajb: yea but with external power adapter mostly .... Mar 13 20:16:00 for ide ofc... Mar 13 20:17:45 hmm actually i recall that i saw some hdd adapter for ide in ebay few years ago, but didn't order for some reason (probably forgot) Mar 13 20:18:11 i use sata drive with ide only system Mar 13 20:18:32 those enclosures can have own bridge cip Mar 13 20:18:34 chip Mar 13 20:18:38 I've a sata/pata -> usb adapter right here with a huge power brick... but you could just as well use a common pc PSU or something Mar 13 20:19:31 mobile hdd/cd/dvd can work on only 5v Mar 13 20:20:13 yeah I guess Mar 13 20:20:22 at least a 2.5" sata disk should Mar 13 20:20:35 been a while since I last tried though Mar 13 20:20:37 2.5 ide too Mar 13 20:21:34 if your drive isnt demanding greatly you can just plug something like this in ide drive: http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_33397_1.jpg Mar 13 20:21:40 and it will go on usb alone Mar 13 20:22:32 ide? that doesn't go to the motor afaik. you need to put power in the 4-pin one Mar 13 20:22:53 sicelo: i was running ide drives without external power Mar 13 20:22:56 44pin provides power Mar 13 20:23:18 i'm talking about mobile drives, not 3.5" Mar 13 20:23:26 ah, i got you now :) Mar 13 20:32:12 i was talking 2.5" and 3.5". So latter needs power Mar 13 20:33:10 its about needing 12v **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 14 02:59:58 2016