**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 25 02:59:59 2016 Mar 25 07:41:41 hmm, I think we need to update the timezone files, but it looks like we need to rebuild the libc6 package for that :/ Mar 25 07:45:14 yes I recall that too, ade and fmg have looked at it before IIRC Mar 25 08:01:34 there is a timezone-related entry in -testing changelog on wiki Mar 25 08:01:36 (2013) Mar 25 08:18:54 that's probably it Mar 25 09:49:27 https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo Mar 25 09:49:28 > n900 Mar 25 09:49:33 i wonder if this thing is alive Mar 25 10:28:05 L29Ah: became Mer/Sailfish, didn't it? Mar 25 10:34:21 L29Ah: nemo dropped n900 support Mar 25 10:34:52 (wayland/egl, and qt5 is way to heavy for n900 anyway) Mar 25 10:40:07 moin :) Mar 25 10:41:48 mfw lightweight remake of xorg is heavier than xorg Mar 25 10:45:30 what is lightweight remake of xorg Mar 25 10:45:33 ? Mar 25 10:58:42 ((wayland/egl, and qt5)) not to start with: I hate both Mar 25 11:01:06 both violate the "if it's (not) broken, (don't) fix it" rule Mar 25 11:01:44 very poettering Mar 25 11:05:43 How is poettering going to get his glowing yearly performance review then? :) Mar 25 11:06:11 gotta do something~ Mar 25 11:10:03 L29Ah: qt5 is too heavy for n900; and wayland/egl on n900 needs some work Mar 25 11:10:27 (mybad, that wasn't really clear) Mar 25 11:17:43 ~poettering Mar 25 11:17:43 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html, or see ~systemd cabal Mar 25 19:34:44 Pali: does a cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/twl4030-bci-battery/power_supply/twl4030_bci_bk_battery/voltage_now work on KP or on new kernel? Mar 25 19:35:53 DocScrutinizer05: nokia n900 does not use twl4030-bci-battery Mar 25 19:35:58 so it cannot work Mar 25 19:36:06 err wut? Mar 25 19:36:27 it uses bq27200 chip Mar 25 19:36:32 this is bupbat Mar 25 19:36:46 bupbat Mar 25 19:36:52 ~bupbat Mar 25 19:36:52 well, bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 Mar 25 19:37:20 there is no kernel driver for bupbat Mar 25 19:37:26 sad Mar 25 19:37:50 do you know how to read voltage from that bupbat? Mar 25 19:37:55 http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/page/Power/ Mar 25 19:38:10 I can write something... but first need to know if it is ever possible for n900... Mar 25 19:38:50 it is Mar 25 19:39:11 it just reads out a (prolly ADC) register of TWL4030 Mar 25 19:39:23 twl4030_bci_battery driver does not exists in upstream kernel nor in nokia's kernel Mar 25 19:39:35 reading ADC of twl4030 is possible Mar 25 19:39:43 do you know which channels? Mar 25 19:39:49 lemme check Mar 25 19:40:09 and plus some conversion function (from raw adc channel output to some voltage/etc value) Mar 25 19:47:43 what the heck, I can't find it. Could you check what Nikolaus does in http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/page/Power/ ? Mar 25 19:50:52 http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/source/tree/master/ Mar 25 19:51:08 (takes ages to load for me) Mar 25 19:54:08 ugh and it seems it needs to authenticate Mar 25 19:55:53 dunno what's wrong with Nik's server Mar 25 20:09:21 http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopNf2219.png Mar 25 20:23:10 freemangordon: what is state of your tidspbridge patches? Mar 25 20:23:22 should I include them to linux-n900 tree? Mar 25 20:25:31 DocScrutinizer05: so if you tell me from which twl4030 ADC channel should I read input values, I can create (or use existing) driver for bupbat Mar 25 20:26:02 (channel number) Mar 25 20:26:30 alas the datasheet for TPS65050 I inspected doesn't mention which MADC channel bupbat is on Mar 25 20:27:13 it doesn't mention any channels except 0, 1. and those only implicitly Mar 25 20:29:04 Pali: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopvS2219.png Mar 25 20:30:07 n900 uses different madc channels Mar 25 20:30:20 ugh, how? Mar 25 20:30:31 see n900 schemantics Mar 25 20:30:44 aren't those 'hardwired' in tps65950? Mar 25 20:30:57 no Mar 25 20:31:31 ADCIN 0 is battery temperature Mar 25 20:31:42 ADCIN 12 is voltage Mar 25 20:31:52 ADCIN 4 is BSI Mar 25 20:32:11 ADCIN 2 is ECI AD Mar 25 20:32:20 and thats all what I know Mar 25 20:32:30 this is ADC9 though Mar 25 20:32:52 can you check n900 schemantics? Mar 25 20:33:13 sure, but they don't show any ADCIN9 Mar 25 20:33:27 it's internal to chip Mar 25 20:36:17 see: https://github.com/pali/linux-n900/blob/v2.6.28-nokia/include/linux/i2c/twl4030-madc.h Mar 25 20:36:27 this is nokia's kernel Mar 25 20:36:35 there are /* Fixed channels */ Mar 25 20:36:44 but they do not match n900 Mar 25 20:36:51 they are for some other omap3 boards Mar 25 20:37:06 sorry that's above me Mar 25 20:37:14 there is e.g. #define TWL4030_MADC_BTEMP TWL4030_MADC_ADCIN1 Mar 25 20:37:21 but battery temp. is ADCIN0 Mar 25 20:37:25 (for n900) Mar 25 20:37:44 well, both ADCIN1 and ADCIN0 ate pins Mar 25 20:37:51 are* Mar 25 20:38:45 and N900 connected bat sensor to ADCIN0 and BSI to ADCIN4 Mar 25 20:39:13 ADECIN9 however is an internally hardwired thing in tps65950 chip Mar 25 20:39:53 the define above is from tps65950 datasheet Mar 25 20:40:37 ADCIN0,1 are somewhat 'special' but that's not a mandatory assignment Mar 25 20:41:33 http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopfo2219.png Mar 25 20:42:35 ADCIN >7 is internal anyway, no dedicated pin Mar 25 20:43:08 so those >7 cannot change their meaning Mar 25 20:44:10 while Nokia decided to _not_ connect a temperature sensor to ADCIN0 pin, and instead connected it to ADCIN4 Mar 25 20:44:22 err. 1? Mar 25 20:44:35 wait Mar 25 20:44:53 bat temp sensor: ADCIN0 Mar 25 20:44:59 from schematics Mar 25 20:47:21 so let me retry... Mar 25 20:47:37 while Nokia decided to _not_ connect a temperature sensor to ADCIN1 pin, and instead connected it to ADCIN0 Mar 25 20:51:05 >> The host processor can identify the instantaneous backup battery voltage by connecting VBACKUP toMADC ADCIN9 channel through a resistive prescaler (BB_CFG[BBCHEN] = 1) and then performing a software-triggered conversion on the ADCIN9 channel. For the monitoring ADC (MADC) configuration required for software-triggered conversion requests, see Reference 1 in Section A.1. << Mar 25 20:51:34 SWCA025 Mar 25 20:53:02 www.ti.com/lit/an/swca025/swca025.pdf Mar 25 20:53:29 Pali: ^^^ Mar 25 20:54:43 ok Mar 25 20:54:51 yw Mar 25 20:59:46 !! http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopiO2219.png this might be a missing bit in Nokia's N900 kernel and thus bupbat going south? Mar 25 21:14:02 I need to transfer all my shit to another n900 Mar 25 21:14:11 and first I want to flash that n900 Mar 25 21:16:32 > plasma-desktop Mar 25 21:16:35 you've scared me Mar 25 21:17:50 fishbulb: Mar 25 21:17:53 ~bm Mar 25 21:17:54 rumour has it, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 Mar 25 21:18:00 ~flashing Mar 25 21:18:00 extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Mar 25 21:33:37 fishbulb: watch out though when your kernel isn't stock maemo kernel, you will nuke your system when undiscriminatingly restoring stuff from another kernel's rootfs Mar 25 21:34:03 it's cssu Mar 25 21:34:08 that's fine Mar 25 21:34:09 and power kernel Mar 25 21:34:16 that's a problem :-) Mar 25 21:34:31 so I'll put cssu and power kernel onto the good phone? Mar 25 21:34:47 how do you mean nuke? permanent damage? Mar 25 21:34:48 you fist need to install power kernel manually on new system, before restoring stuff from backupmenu, then Mar 25 21:35:09 so flashing is easier on linux? Mar 25 21:35:13 no parmanent damage, just unbootable Mar 25 21:35:33 yes Mar 25 21:35:33 I can do the updates via wifi? Mar 25 21:35:39 yes Mar 25 21:35:42 great Mar 25 21:36:12 I'm running arch Mar 25 21:36:19 on PC? Mar 25 21:36:22 yeah Mar 25 21:36:26 should work Mar 25 21:36:34 sweet. Mar 25 21:36:41 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz Mar 25 21:38:24 on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Mar 25 21:49:39 how long does flashing take? Mar 25 21:50:11 not much Mar 25 21:52:52 do I have the phone on? Mar 25 21:54:05 Pali: well, with my patches it works, but frequency is locked on 90MHz and there is no working DVFS Mar 25 21:54:42 do I just plug it in and execute the script, or do I plug the phone in while off, or what Mar 25 22:14:51 um Mar 25 22:15:00 flashing instructions please? Mar 25 22:15:10 plug it in then execute scripts? Mar 25 22:18:21 can I dual boot Mar 25 22:18:40 is there another useful operating system to run with an n900 Mar 25 22:33:10 fishbulb: execute the script, see the instructions Mar 25 22:33:36 I'm flashing the whole thing Mar 25 22:38:23 fishbulb: if you get a strenage error from flasher (sth like "file not found" or sth), you need libusb0.1.4 32bit iirc Mar 25 22:38:59 just got that error Mar 25 22:39:03 where do I find it? Mar 25 22:39:12 your distro's package manager Mar 25 22:40:04 it's not in there Mar 25 22:40:06 I couldn't automate that in the scipt since it's different for each distro Mar 25 22:40:13 I have to downgrade Mar 25 22:40:18 ohnoes Mar 25 22:40:21 not even sure how to Mar 25 22:40:23 arch? Mar 25 22:40:26 yes Mar 25 22:40:33 well antergos Mar 25 22:42:01 kernel module collision problem Mar 25 22:42:05 I got that too Mar 25 22:42:32 fixing flasher-3.5 cdc_phonet kernel module collision problem Mar 25 22:43:05 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=194808 Mar 25 22:45:02 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=186130 Mar 25 22:45:08 that doesn't really help Mar 25 22:46:12 the latter should Mar 25 22:46:30 OK, found the libaries: Mar 25 22:46:32 $ yaourt -S lib32-libusb lib32-libusb-compat Mar 25 22:46:33 Works now. Mar 25 22:49:31 I got the image that contains backupmenu Mar 25 22:49:34 where do I put it? Mar 25 22:50:55 on a uSD? Mar 25 22:51:22 errr wait. what? Mar 25 22:51:45 you got the BM-enhanced fiasco image? Mar 25 22:51:56 Here's a rootfs image from my N900 with BackupMenu 0.50-3 installed: flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img. This image can be flashed with the Nokia flasher, significantly reducing restore time if you have a "bricked" system. Mar 25 22:52:26 yes, you prolly rather flash it manually Mar 25 22:52:41 how many steps is that Mar 25 22:52:47 one? Mar 25 22:52:59 flash what manually? Mar 25 22:53:24 flasher-3.5 -f -F Mar 25 22:53:33 then run the script? Mar 25 22:53:56 no, first run the script, err, instead of running the script Mar 25 22:54:35 so just run flasher 3.5 and it'll do the whole thing? Mar 25 22:54:44 flasher-3.5 -f -F Mar 25 22:54:50 or somesuch Mar 25 22:55:04 maybe -F -f Mar 25 22:55:05 what? Mar 25 22:55:48 flasher-3.5 -f -F flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img Mar 25 22:56:09 what will that flash Mar 25 22:56:17 I want to do the whole phone Mar 25 22:56:35 please read complete page http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Mar 25 22:58:04 If you are using the .tar.gz package, use: Mar 25 22:58:04 sudo ./flasher-3.5 -F -f Mar 25 22:58:11 that? Mar 25 23:02:06 do I do that Mar 25 23:08:40 it's not working. Mar 25 23:09:53 you wrote this script and you don't know how to flash the phone with the backupmenu image? Mar 25 23:21:10 DocScrutinizer05: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopiO2219.png --> so backup battery is never charged? Mar 25 23:21:56 freemangordon: ok, are you going to fix it? or what are next plans with tidspbridge? Mar 25 23:37:53 pagurus: depends on what kernel does Mar 25 23:37:59 pali: Mar 25 23:38:11 sorry, ETAB Mar 25 23:53:48 the flash it all script didn't erase everything on the phone Mar 25 23:53:51 it's all still there Mar 25 23:54:48 all the call history and texts and stuff Mar 26 00:24:43 I'd like to report a bug on that flashitall script Mar 26 00:24:48 in that it doesn't work Mar 26 00:27:04 all calls, all texts, all contacts, all calendar appointments, and I don't know what else yet, are all still there Mar 26 00:28:12 you need to enter 'YES' Mar 26 00:28:20 I did Mar 26 00:28:33 obviously not Mar 26 00:28:49 the script is tested Mar 26 00:28:58 afaik Mar 26 00:29:11 well, I tested it before I published it Mar 26 00:29:14 I'll try it again Mar 26 00:29:20 has anyone else tested it? Mar 26 00:29:40 I'm pretty sure several people used it already Mar 26 00:30:17 I'll do it again Mar 26 00:33:27 see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir_flash-it-all.sh.LOG Mar 26 00:34:18 Hi. Can you help me with U-Boot pls? After I select the kernel it says "Unsupported filesystem"... I tried to fsck and to switch between FAT32 and ext3 filesystem... On FAT it even doesn't show my kernels Mar 26 00:40:49 fishbulb: you also can use flash-it-all.sh to flash your backupmenu image. however you need move the image to the my-private-workdir and do a 'md5sum flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img >>md5sums.txt' first Mar 26 00:41:29 after that call 'sudo ./flash-it-all.sh flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img' Mar 26 00:45:51 Invalid FIASCO file header Mar 26 00:45:51 sorry, flashing flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img (NOLO, rootfs, modem-fw) failed with errorcode 0 Mar 26 00:46:17 then the file is not correct Mar 26 00:46:40 I got it off the backupmenu post Mar 26 00:46:56 I never used that flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img Mar 26 00:47:06 well it's fucked Mar 26 00:47:31 seems so. Did you check that you downloaded it without errors?` Mar 26 00:47:51 yes Mar 26 00:48:56 alien2003: wait for Pali Mar 26 00:51:55 I noticed a tiny error in flasher file, it shouldn't say "failed with errorcode 0" Mar 26 00:52:11 irrelevant for that issue here Mar 26 00:52:30 a tiny error? Mar 26 00:52:35 yes Mar 26 00:53:09 it should read "failed with errorcode 5" or whatever Mar 26 00:53:18 ok, it didn't Mar 26 00:53:44 yes, I see. That's why I say "I noticed a tiny irrelevant error" Mar 26 00:55:54 yeah, the process still didn't work Mar 26 00:56:27 I flashed it a second time and it did erase the stuff though Mar 26 00:56:34 sure Mar 26 00:56:41 the first time it said it was doing that and it didn't Mar 26 00:56:50 o.O Mar 26 00:57:22 where are the repos? Mar 26 00:57:30 ~repos Mar 26 00:57:30 i guess repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Mar 26 00:58:33 ~jrrepos Mar 26 00:58:34 jrrepos is, like, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ Mar 26 00:58:50 one-click-install Mar 26 01:00:13 I put that in the browser? Mar 26 01:07:37 yes Mar 26 01:07:47 on N900 Mar 26 01:08:22 actually http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/recommended.install Mar 26 01:08:50 if I install all the repos will it spaz out Mar 26 01:09:34 yes Mar 26 01:09:53 you only need http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/recommended.install Mar 26 01:10:28 don't you need devel for backup menu, cssu and power kernel Mar 26 01:10:46 that's unrelated Mar 26 01:11:09 well, use http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/muarf_devel_tools.install Mar 26 01:12:26 INSTEAD OF recommended Mar 26 01:12:50 ok well luckily you said that last Mar 26 01:13:35 worst case you need to delete catalogs in ham which are duplicate Mar 26 01:14:00 I don't know which ones are Mar 26 01:14:25 you'll see by their names Mar 26 01:15:43 there doesn't seem to be extras or extras-devel Mar 26 01:16:05 extras is on by default Mar 26 01:16:21 extras-devel is in http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/muarf_devel_tools.install Mar 26 01:17:25 [extras-devel] Mar 26 01:17:26 name = Maemo Extras-DEVEL catalogue (read WARNING!) Mar 26 01:17:28 uri = http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel Mar 26 01:17:29 dist = fremantle Mar 26 01:17:31 components = free non-free Mar 26 01:17:48 that still works? Mar 26 01:17:56 sure, why not? Mar 26 01:22:41 the linenoise ones are 404 Mar 26 01:24:38 ok I can't seem to find cssu or anything else Mar 26 01:24:47 maybe those repos are no good Mar 26 01:25:05 they might have a tiny error making them unusable Mar 26 01:27:06 I have to try later, cheers **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 26 02:59:58 2016