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Apr 03 07:28:24 <azkay_> Alrighty, figured out how I'm going to do the uber app
Apr 03 07:28:30 <azkay_> Now to recode it in qt
Apr 03 07:28:40 <kerio> does uber have a public API?
Apr 03 07:28:42 <azkay_> Wish I knew where my old source code was ):
Apr 03 07:28:43 <azkay_> Yeah
Apr 03 07:28:54 <azkay_> Takes 5 http requests just to get authorization token lol
Apr 03 07:31:14 <Luke-Jr> azkay_: standard Qt, or Maemo-specific?
Apr 03 07:32:18 <azkay_> n900
Apr 03 07:32:49 <Luke-Jr> why not do it generic? :P
Apr 03 07:33:06 <Luke-Jr> so when we all upgrade, we can still use it ;)
Apr 03 07:33:26 <azkay_> I can release the source for everyone to build :P I'll get too confused otherwise
Apr 03 07:33:29 <Luke-Jr> k
Apr 03 07:33:36 <azkay_> Or I'll do it after I get it working for n900 haha
Apr 03 07:34:14 <azkay_> Shouldn't be too hard, to begin with I'm just going to make all the needed functions then probably a command line type app until I make a UI
Apr 03 07:37:48 <bencoh> :)
Apr 03 07:38:22 <bencoh> azkay_: have you asked for an API dev key from uber?
Apr 03 08:50:31 <azkay> Wish everything wasn't focused on being asynchronous and object orientated all the time ):
Apr 03 08:51:44 <Wizzup_> robotanarchy: I have the same kernel, but no, didn't get ofono to work yet
Apr 03 08:51:48 <Wizzup_> also didn't try super super hard :) 
Apr 03 08:54:51 <delphi> azkay Well otherwise it would suck.
Apr 03 08:54:57 <delphi> :)
Apr 03 09:00:58 <robotanarchy> Wizzup_: ok, thanks :)
Apr 03 09:01:14 <robotanarchy> Wizzup_: did you get it to work with any other kernel?
Apr 03 09:02:49 <Wizzup_> no
Apr 03 09:10:21 <robotanarchy> Wizzup_: okay, I'll let you know when I make any progress :)
Apr 03 09:10:42 <azkay> Nooo, my brain is procedural :P
Apr 03 09:13:05 <Wizzup_> robotanarchy: great!
Apr 03 09:13:06 <Maxdamantus> Everything is asynchronous anyway.
Apr 03 09:13:09 <Wizzup_> Please do.
Apr 03 09:13:49 <Maxdamantus> When you make your process read from a file descriptor, it doesn't stay there in any sense, continuously polling it or something.
Apr 03 09:14:36 <Maxdamantus> It tells the kernel to run the process again from here, after updating some location in memory with the result of the read.
Apr 03 09:14:48 <Maxdamantus> which happens an indefinite amount of time later.
Apr 03 09:15:00 <Maxdamantus> it's pretty much just a form of CPS.
Apr 03 09:26:20 <azkay> Yeah, but when I'm coding I like everything to run in order (blocking and all), unless I'm doing something that needs to not be blocked
Apr 03 09:26:36 <azkay> like if I'm doing stuff with GUIs etc, then yeah I don't want synchronous lol
Apr 03 16:20:50 <ceene> is there any reasonable way to use a bluetooth headset/handsfree/whatever without pulseaudio?
Apr 03 16:21:07 <ceene> all info i can find talks about that piece of s...oftware
Apr 03 16:24:21 <bencoh> it's supposed to work with alsa as well afaict
Apr 03 16:30:45 <ceene> ok, so i just have to face one problem at a time :)
Apr 03 16:31:35 <ceene> i can solve first bluetoothctl not being able to connect to the handsfree device
Apr 03 16:33:13 <bencoh> I guess you're not talking about maemmo?
Apr 03 16:33:32 <ceene> nah, just debian
Apr 03 16:33:46 <ceene> on maemo it seems to work fine :)
Apr 03 16:35:50 <Sicelo> hmm, on side note, ceene: looks like encryption in whatsapp has just recently become default everywhere. suddenly not receiving messages from anyone (not just Lumias)
Apr 03 16:36:08 <Pali> ceene: bluez5 has dropped support for alsa
Apr 03 16:36:26 <Pali> bluez4 had support for alsa, but you need to enable some "magic" config option
Apr 03 16:36:26 <ceene> Sicelo: i'm still receiving messages just fine
Apr 03 16:36:38 <ceene> except sometimes for the first one in a row
Apr 03 16:37:05 <ceene> Pali: oh :/
Apr 03 16:37:08 <Sicelo> i was receiving a short while ago as well, but not now. :)
Apr 03 16:37:35 <Pali> so for bluez5 somebody must write new alsa plugin which will use bluez5 dbus api
Apr 03 16:37:41 <bencoh> Pali: what? oO
Apr 03 16:38:00 <bencoh> seriously .... :/
Apr 03 16:38:18 <Pali> yes, if you want alsa support for bluetooth headset with bluez5
Apr 03 16:38:27 <ceene> i usually have to remove pulseaudio just to hear something
Apr 03 16:38:31 <ceene> i still don't get what it's good for
Apr 03 16:38:32 <Pali> I think I found on internet some concept or example code for that
Apr 03 16:39:11 <Pali> so if you have time or if you are angry for current situation, feel free to write such alsa plugin!
Apr 03 16:39:34 <Pali> I would be happy as I remove one item from my (infinite) TODO list
Apr 03 16:39:35 <Pali> :
Apr 03 16:39:36 <Pali> D
Apr 03 16:40:01 <ceene> i'm angry about having to install pulseaudio
Apr 03 16:40:12 <ceene> just so i could tinker with a thing i don't really need
Apr 03 16:40:16 <Pali> so start working on that alsa plugin ;-)
Apr 03 16:40:54 <Pali> so you even do not know that you want pulseaudio and you will love it :D:D
Apr 03 16:41:06 <Pali> ~polypaudio
Apr 03 16:41:16 <Pali> ~pulseaudio
Apr 03 16:41:16 <infobot> well, pulseaudio is aka PolypAudio, or <KotCzarny> For the uninitiated, pulse stands for "painfully useless linux sound engineers"
Apr 03 16:41:25 <Church-> So quick question if anybody's on. Would there be any obvious problems with using apt with the say the debian wheezy repos or some such?
Apr 03 16:42:38 <Pali> apt repo from debian on maemo/n900?
Apr 03 16:42:43 <Pali> yes big problem
Apr 03 16:43:58 <Church-> What are the obvious problems than? Because I really don't feel like recompiling a couple applications that I know have ARM binaries in their repos.
Apr 03 16:47:45 <ceene> Church-: you can always use debian inside a chroot, easydebian will help you with that
Apr 03 16:48:04 <ceene> repos aren't compatible, libraries, dependencies...
Apr 03 16:48:08 <ceene> it could go all to hell
Apr 03 16:50:21 <Church-> ceene: Fair point... bollocks.
Apr 03 16:50:40 <Church-> ceene: Not really looking to have a chroot running either.
Apr 03 16:50:57 <Church-> Looks like I'll just have to compile them and any needed libs.
Apr 03 16:51:03 <ceene> it only wastes spaces on sdcard
Apr 03 16:51:25 <ceene> and once you get used to it, you'll love to apt-get install everything else
Apr 03 16:55:43 <Church-> ceene: Any clue if liferea was ever ported? Figure there might be a binary some where.
Apr 03 16:56:27 <ceene> to maemo?
Apr 03 16:56:29 <ceene> don't know
Apr 03 16:56:32 <ceene> it's on debian, though
Apr 03 16:56:34 <ceene> liferea - feed/news/podcast client with plugin support
Apr 03 16:56:57 <Church-> Aye, eh fuck it. Got nothing to do today. Might as well port it.
Apr 03 16:57:02 <Sicelo> why?
Apr 03 16:57:56 <Sicelo> it's almost same as the stock rss reader (i use both). there are lots of N900-specific rss readers in the repos. did you check those out first?
Apr 03 16:58:25 <Sicelo> not saying you shouldn't port .. just wondering
Apr 03 16:58:34 <Church-> I did, wasn't too big a fan of them. Didn't give the stock one a look however...
Apr 03 16:58:52 <Sicelo> (actually i'm trying to port obdgpslogger myself at this moment)
Apr 03 16:59:46 <Church-> Might have a port of Radare2 coming though.
Apr 03 16:59:48 <Church-> Finally...
Apr 03 17:05:24 <bencoh> Sicelo: last time I looked for rss/articles readers on maemo I was really disappointed...
Apr 03 17:05:52 <bencoh> (cutenews was released since then but I'm still not really happy about it)
Apr 03 17:08:06 <ceene> i'd like one that could sync with TheOldReader
Apr 03 17:09:21 <bencoh> yet another centralized thing :(
Apr 03 17:10:10 <ceene> i just want to read a couple things on the phone
Apr 03 17:10:21 <ceene> and have them checked to read when i'm on the computer
Apr 03 17:10:44 <ceene> so i don't keep seeing the same things i've just read on the other device...
Apr 03 17:13:12 <Sicelo> obdgpslogger built just fine in SB .. no issues. now i need help churning a deb for the device
Apr 03 17:13:19 <bencoh> ceene: I gathered that, I had the same issue
Apr 03 17:13:29 <bencoh> ceene: I'd rather go for a miniflux client
Apr 03 17:13:54 <bencoh> and/or a Fever (generic API) client
Apr 03 17:16:03 <Sicelo> ah, has clean binaries .. nothing else. will just scp to device
Apr 03 17:18:20 <ceene> i don't know  miniflux
Apr 03 17:18:34 <ceene> is it available for n900 and pc?
Apr 03 17:19:00 <bencoh> ceene: https://miniflux.net/
Apr 03 17:19:50 <bencoh> it's great except for the part that we dont have a native n900 client so we have to use the web ui
Apr 03 17:20:35 <ceene> oh
Apr 03 17:20:44 <ceene> well, if it's not very heavy it can run well enough
Apr 03 17:22:29 <bencoh> it does run well, and webui means no offline use
Apr 03 17:23:55 <bencoh> s/and/but/
Apr 03 17:23:55 <infobot> bencoh meant: it does run well, but webui means no offline use
Apr 03 18:55:57 <ceene> i've been thinking, bencoh, there must be some rss2mail program
Apr 03 18:56:14 <ceene> that combined with a filter to classify in matching imap folders
Apr 03 19:01:20 <DocScrutinizer05> ZNC RSS-plugin plus Quassel?
Apr 03 19:01:34 <bencoh> ceene: sure it'd work (and there are rss 2 mail tools) but ...
Apr 03 19:02:29 <DocScrutinizer05> or a quassel RSS plugin right away
Apr 03 19:03:04 <DocScrutinizer05> while quassel is the overkill for IRC, it seems like it's been made with precisely this RSS usecase in mind
Apr 03 19:04:24 <ceene> gotta try that thing, quassel
Apr 03 19:04:47 <DocScrutinizer05> I never touched it since I think it's massive overkill for IRC
Apr 03 19:05:14 <DocScrutinizer05> it's syncing multiple wuassel clients to a quassel server
Apr 03 19:05:43 <DocScrutinizer05> witj client local databases afaik
Apr 03 19:05:47 <DocScrutinizer05> for offline use
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