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Apr 30 07:34:24 <fastlane> hey all !
Apr 30 07:34:45 <fastlane> so i want to know if i can totally remove the screen timeout from n900
Apr 30 07:34:58 <fastlane> of maybe make it 30 minutes or so, i just want the screen to turn off
Apr 30 07:35:01 <fastlane> thanks.
Apr 30 07:35:37 <fastlane> i just *do not* want the screen to turn off i meant
Apr 30 07:37:37 <KotCzarny> run mplayer in the background?
Apr 30 07:38:00 <KotCzarny> write a simple script that will prevent screen sleep ever few minutes?
Apr 30 07:38:24 <fastlane> mplayer will be battery drain no?
Apr 30 07:38:55 <KotCzarny> maybe, pause it?
Apr 30 07:39:06 <fastlane> hm
Apr 30 07:39:11 <KotCzarny> enabling screen would be bigger battery drain tho
Apr 30 07:39:24 <fastlane> what about the script,
Apr 30 07:39:40 <fastlane> yes but not that bad, 
Apr 30 07:39:57 <KotCzarny> you bet. screen on is one of the biggest battery drains
Apr 30 07:39:59 <KotCzarny> https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54554
Apr 30 07:40:17 <KotCzarny> see the line at the bottom
Apr 30 07:40:34 <fastlane> i wsa thinking that screen on with no major app executing its code VS screen on with mplayer executing
Apr 30 07:40:41 <KotCzarny> just run it inside: while [ 1 ]; do ..that line.. ; sleep 55; done
Apr 30 07:42:06 <fastlane> ok
Apr 30 07:42:21 <fastlane> just recalled looking at the forums, havnt been there for a long time
Apr 30 07:42:36 <fastlane> has neo900 become a reality?
Apr 30 07:42:56 <KotCzarny> joerg says 2016q3
Apr 30 07:43:57 <fastlane> oh i see still in development neo900.org
Apr 30 07:48:49 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: that torrent doesn't have any webseeds .-.
Apr 30 07:48:55 <kerio> i'm only downloading it at 80MB/s
Apr 30 07:49:33 <kerio> i'm pretty sure that i'm literally eating all the bandwidth right now
Apr 30 07:49:54 <KotCzarny> :)
Apr 30 07:50:29 <kerio> i wish i lived in a datacenter ._.
Apr 30 07:50:47 <KotCzarny> too arid
Apr 30 07:50:54 <kerio> alright, seeding now
Apr 30 07:50:56 <KotCzarny> you would be sick in a few weeks
Apr 30 07:51:05 <KotCzarny> not to mention noise
Apr 30 07:51:21 <kerio> hm i should've probably put the download directory in a separate dataset
Apr 30 07:51:55 <kerio> why am i only uploading at 100KB/s
Apr 30 07:52:09 <kerio> *kB
Apr 30 07:56:23 <DocScrutinizer05> no idea, I also sometimes wonder why only 20% of my allowed upload BW are used
Apr 30 07:56:38 <DocScrutinizer05> it's very fluctuating
Apr 30 07:56:55 <fastlane> maybe th ISP manipulates the bandwidth
Apr 30 07:57:08 <DocScrutinizer05> fastlane: install simple brightness applet
Apr 30 07:57:20 <fastlane> ok
Apr 30 07:57:43 <DocScrutinizer05> matter of one push&hold of the rectangle at left side of the slider
Apr 30 08:50:52 <kerio> alright i'm upping at 400kB/s
Apr 30 08:52:40 <kerio> i'd also download that on my home connection but i actually have torrents i have to seed there :>
Apr 30 08:58:37 <DocScrutinizer05> how would I seed an existing dir from cmdline, so it can get found under same name as the others seeding same dir?
Apr 30 08:59:26 <kerio> ?
Apr 30 08:59:56 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, why do torrent seeding when people can do decent download? use http://devuan-temporary-mirror.almesberger.net/
Apr 30 09:00:53 <DocScrutinizer05> doesn't make sesne to wast my traffic budget with torrent chitchat
Apr 30 09:03:02 <DocScrutinizer05> just seeding at a 6 to 20 KiB/s while the uplink could do 80
Apr 30 09:03:20 <kerio> yeah but what's the overhead
Apr 30 09:03:24 <kerio> typically clients can tell you
Apr 30 09:04:57 <kerio> ok, uploading at close to 1MB/s now
Apr 30 09:05:52 <DocScrutinizer05> strange, torrents don't like me, eh? ;-)
Apr 30 09:06:21 <kerio> your uplink can do 80kB/s, that's pretty laughable anyway
Apr 30 09:06:31 <DocScrutinizer05> so what?
Apr 30 09:06:54 <kerio> i'd say don't bother, leave the machines in the datacenters to upload
Apr 30 09:06:59 <DocScrutinizer05> it's 50% of the 1,5Mbit I got
Apr 30 09:07:35 <kerio> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5289801146 feels good man
Apr 30 09:07:43 <DocScrutinizer05> meh
Apr 30 09:07:57 <kerio> don't you have one or more servers
Apr 30 09:07:58 <DocScrutinizer05> http://devuan-temporary-mirror.almesberger.net/ feels good
Apr 30 09:08:56 <DocScrutinizer05> guess why I asked how to torrent-seed from cmdline
Apr 30 09:09:06 <DocScrutinizer05> but I think I don't bother
Apr 30 09:09:09 <luke-jr> I'd help seed, but my upstream is like 10 k/s, and downstream is packetlossy
Apr 30 09:09:37 <kerio> surely you'd just tell the bittorrent client to "download" in that directory
Apr 30 09:09:44 <kerio> the torrent is called devuan_jessie_beta
Apr 30 09:09:57 <DocScrutinizer05> why torrent when I can use same backbone and traffic for decent fast upload?
Apr 30 09:10:10 <luke-jr> is the torrent included in the torrent? :P
Apr 30 09:10:23 <kerio> that would be interesting
Apr 30 09:10:28 <luke-jr> DocScrutinizer05: so your upload gets combined with others'
Apr 30 09:10:32 <luke-jr> kerio: it's impossible :P
Apr 30 09:10:38 <kerio> not really
Apr 30 09:10:47 <luke-jr> kerio: torrent files include hashes of the data
Apr 30 09:10:49 <kerio> just need a preimage attack on whatever checksum is used
Apr 30 09:11:06 <kerio> (LUL)
Apr 30 09:11:08 <DocScrutinizer05> luke-jr: I'm not interested. So are those that download from that box, the backbone is prolly fatter than any of your downlinks
Apr 30 09:11:16 <luke-jr> "oh, just preimage a cryptographic hash"
Apr 30 09:11:23 <kerio> ezpz
Apr 30 09:11:42 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: to be fair, i'm offering like 800kB/s in upload that nobody would've ever used
Apr 30 09:11:49 <kerio> because who the hell knows about my unofficial mirror?
Apr 30 09:12:04 <DocScrutinizer05> mine is official
Apr 30 09:12:42 <DocScrutinizer05> and it's offering  1Gb backbone
Apr 30 09:13:02 <DocScrutinizer05> 100Mb warranted
Apr 30 09:13:23 <DocScrutinizer05> and not a single download so far
Apr 30 09:13:55 <kerio> does devuan have a geographically aware redirector
Apr 30 09:14:07 <kerio> like httpredir.debian.org
Apr 30 09:15:58 <KotCzarny> kerio, is your link some kind of dsl?
Apr 30 09:16:09 <kerio> yeah that's my house
Apr 30 09:16:25 <KotCzarny> not bad uplink
Apr 30 09:16:42 <KotCzarny> though i have recently update my poor 5/5 to 30/30 for 3usd more
Apr 30 09:16:48 <KotCzarny> *updated
Apr 30 09:16:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't think so
Apr 30 09:16:57 <kerio> i'm paying 40 moneys for that
Apr 30 09:17:05 <kerio> (currently discounted at 30 moneys)
Apr 30 09:17:08 <KotCzarny> im paing ~10eur for that
Apr 30 09:17:14 <kerio> plus 10 moneys for free calls
Apr 30 09:17:14 <KotCzarny> *paying
Apr 30 09:17:27 <DocScrutinizer05> soon to come:  neo900_devuanfiles.dev-1.org - which is the same server
Apr 30 09:17:27 <kerio> yeah but you don't live in what's effectively a third world country
Apr 30 09:17:44 <KotCzarny> um, yeah, but its effectively second world country :P
Apr 30 09:18:03 <kerio> KotCzarny: formally second world county, right?
Apr 30 09:18:15 <KotCzarny> depends on the view
Apr 30 09:19:28 <kerio> nato/varsaw pact/none of the above
Apr 30 09:19:45 <KotCzarny> .pl
Apr 30 09:19:54 <kerio> then third world became "developing country" or something like that
Apr 30 09:20:24 <KotCzarny> i think of africa when you say 'third world'
Apr 30 09:20:37 <kerio> yeah that's what's meant by third world today
Apr 30 09:20:52 <KotCzarny> and some remote islands
Apr 30 09:20:58 <kerio> but initially the third world was just a geographical statement, pretty much
Apr 30 09:21:25 <kerio> places not under the direct influence of the US or the soviet union
Apr 30 09:21:34 <KotCzarny> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World
Apr 30 09:21:43 <KotCzarny> yeah
Apr 30 09:23:35 <KotCzarny> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_World
Apr 30 09:23:36 <KotCzarny> wow
Apr 30 09:23:52 <kerio> Sub-populations existing in a First World country, but with the living standards of those of a Third World, or developing country
Apr 30 09:23:56 <kerio> alright that's definetely italy
Apr 30 09:24:03 <kerio> (jk)
Apr 30 09:24:06 <KotCzarny> ;)
Apr 30 09:33:00 <KotCzarny> hrm, build_dh surely takes a lot of time on arm
Apr 30 09:33:20 <KotCzarny> 40 minutes already
Apr 30 09:33:56 <KotCzarny> unrelated but.. https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13062421_1127681407253225_3959609311058674706_n.jpg?oh=ec22d6f6c7bfa388d5471dcd26bf0b4b&oe=57A3CC77
Apr 30 09:36:25 <DocScrutinizer05> ~wiki thrid world
Apr 30 09:36:28 <infobot> I couldn't find a matching article in wikipedia, look for yerselves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=thrid+world&go=Go
Apr 30 09:36:34 <DocScrutinizer05> ~wiki third world
Apr 30 09:36:38 <infobot> At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_world (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{other uses|Third World (disambiguation)}} era, as of the period between April 1975 (the fall of Saigon) and August 1975 (the communist takeover in Laos). Blue: The First World: United States, United Kingdom and their allies, Red: The Second World: Soviet Union, China, and their allies, Green: Neutral and non-aligned countries.]] The term "'Third World"' arose during the Cold War ...
Apr 30 10:45:27 <kerio> firefox 47 will ship with chacha20-poly1305 \o/
Apr 30 16:33:38 <zZap-X> can the maemo jabber client send and recieve media?
Apr 30 16:46:00 <kerio> i'm at 1.58 in the devuan_jessie_beta torrent
Apr 30 16:46:27 <kerio> \o/
Apr 30 16:46:33 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: how much have you upped
Apr 30 16:51:56 <zamn900> since zZap-X xmpp can videocall why asking that
Apr 30 16:53:12 <zamn900> it's not that the point, but is to loose bonds with whatsapp network... and why dumbly bother to imagine alternative with even jabber
Apr 30 18:39:34 <Sicelo> zZap-X: no. not sure if it's modifiable
Apr 30 18:39:49 <zZap-X> aye ok
Apr 30 19:54:51 <zZap-X> i cant get the Join Chat room feature to work on N900, when i enter a name, it just spins
Apr 30 21:05:40 <zZap-X> i rebooted phone, now it works :D
Apr 30 21:05:50 <zZap-X> the N900 lives on
Apr 30 21:06:43 <Sicelo> hehe
Apr 30 22:26:38 <zZap-X> anyone recommend a decent twitter client for n900?
Apr 30 23:36:01 <parazyd> zZap-X: lately i've started using bitlbee for twitter
Apr 30 23:36:09 <parazyd> dunno if that's an option for you
May 01 00:09:16 <luke-jr> Pyra preorders open btw https://www.dragonbox.de/en/45-pyra
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