**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 06 02:59:58 2016 May 06 03:12:49 chess-ui: played one game till checkmate, saved it, clicked Restart, played another game till checkmate, clicked Save, second game overwrote first one May 06 03:13:23 Not User-Friendly At All, nufaa May 06 06:00:23 Oksana: did you beat chess-ui? May 06 06:09:19 In what sense? Physically impossible May 06 06:09:36 And chess-wise, gnu-chess is unbeatable for most people May 06 07:12:21 most chess engines are, surely May 06 07:24:29 i meant chess-wise and can agree that it is unbeatable by so far. May 06 07:38:09 only if you played it against itself and never had any other outcome than tie May 06 07:44:50 hehe, one Nokia manager insisted in adding a particularly "easy" preset to maemo chess, because of that :-) May 06 07:47:15 pali, freemangordon: would you maybe like to talk to parazyd in #devuan about (and then (help to) do) a devuan-based maemo build on their infra? May 06 07:47:37 just an idea May 06 07:48:08 i don't think maemo has any relation with debian at the moment May 06 07:48:28 is there a devuan etch May 06 07:48:38 you would have a new systemd-free upstream May 06 07:48:38 DocScrutinizer05: well, afaik Pali is busy, and I am preparing IR TX patches for upstreaming, so don;t have much of a time as well May 06 07:48:40 well, for now it's mainly about kernel, so it is irrelevant if we call it "maemo build" or "N900-devuan" May 06 07:48:58 DocScrutinizer05: we still didn't put a armv6+armel target afaik for builds May 06 07:49:16 parazyd: yep May 06 07:49:33 that's why I suggested you and freemangordon and pali join forces May 06 07:49:46 is there an armv5tel devuan build yet May 06 07:49:55 for ceres May 06 07:49:58 only armhf May 06 07:50:02 parazyd: which kernel do you use? May 06 07:50:11 ceres has some problems, not able to install it now May 06 07:50:13 try ascii May 06 07:50:18 freemangordon: 4.4.8, why? May 06 07:50:23 note, i don't use devuan May 06 07:51:11 parazyd: because 4.6 and (hopefully) 4.7 will have waaay better support of n900 May 06 07:51:25 :) May 06 07:51:38 courtesy freemangordon and pali May 06 07:51:42 :-) May 06 07:51:45 \o/ May 06 07:51:52 I am not sure 4.4.8 will have regulator fixes backported May 06 07:52:49 and those are mandatory for stable peripheral devices operation May 06 07:52:52 just noting May 06 07:53:00 mhm May 06 07:53:07 well, so far so good for me May 06 07:53:24 but really looking forward to "waaay better support" :)) May 06 07:54:14 is it me or if this mainline-n900 idea gets finished, prices of the n900 jump higher? May 06 07:54:21 LUL May 06 07:54:40 i should probably buy a new one actually May 06 07:54:44 the lack of wifi is becoming annoying May 06 07:55:12 and at this point it's either another n900 or an iphone 6s May 06 07:55:15 parazyd: go to kernel.org and search for Ivaylo Dimitrov in linux-next :) May 06 07:55:22 can nfc be hacked to forward wifi? May 06 07:55:42 KotCzarny: n speeds I guess ;D May 06 07:55:49 or iphone 6s plus a pyra maybe May 06 07:56:13 :) May 06 07:56:41 GF wants attention, /me is going AFK May 06 07:56:45 :> May 06 07:56:48 o/ May 06 07:57:09 name your girlfriend iphone gf May 06 07:57:26 or my dearest droid May 06 07:59:11 freemangordon: very nice! May 06 08:00:39 i'm really looking forward to maemo6 or whatever you wanna call it May 06 08:02:19 for sure not maemo6 since that's a moniker for harmattan May 06 08:02:26 :-) May 06 08:02:43 maemo5-cssu edition May 06 08:03:09 maybe freemaemo1 ;-) May 06 08:03:13 :) May 06 08:03:55 (harmattan) fubar in my book May 06 08:03:57 ~aegis May 06 08:03:57 http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Developing_for_Harmattan/Harmattan_security/Security_guide , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing#Criticism, or http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/1/10/ME_382_LockedUpTechnology2.gif May 06 08:04:04 maemo 7 May 06 08:04:16 following the microsoft tradition of skipping problematic versions May 06 08:04:28 maemo9001 May 06 08:04:44 maemo jessie? May 06 08:04:50 maemo-n900 May 06 08:04:52 (the planet) May 06 08:04:59 so let's make this maemo16.1 (or 17.1) May 06 08:05:12 maemo-proper May 06 08:05:19 :-D May 06 08:05:55 I guess we have enough for the usual mess of project name vs public name vs abandoned but popular misnomers ;-P May 06 08:06:55 maemo-dev1 May 06 08:07:04 cool maemo May 06 08:07:06 better maemo May 06 08:07:06 dank maems May 06 08:07:07 ^_^ May 06 08:07:23 moema May 06 08:07:35 meamo May 06 08:07:48 meamo sounds dank May 06 08:07:49 meamo -> me amo transaltes to "i love myself" in spanish May 06 08:08:00 ahahaah May 06 08:08:07 translates May 06 08:08:57 or just devuan-n900.1 May 06 08:09:23 devuan900 May 06 08:09:42 that's a derivative :-) May 06 08:10:08 i'll keep maemo name May 06 08:10:11 freemaemo sounds good May 06 08:10:17 is clear May 06 08:10:30 freemaemogordon-paliedition May 06 08:10:34 lol May 06 08:10:52 linux+things May 06 08:11:07 my little maemo May 06 08:11:22 ROFL! May 06 08:12:13 but more seriously, unless it gets backported to 770/n8x0 it should differentiate from maemo itself May 06 08:12:31 ? May 06 08:12:44 so it would be maemo/something May 06 08:15:46 driving devels of "sort(1)" mad, with maemo05, 005, 0005 for the release candidates, then maemo50, 500 aso for the incremental final versions ;-) May 06 08:15:52 sort -n May 06 08:15:53 ez May 06 08:19:11 yeah, and you could use grep to find all files relating to e.g. the 000 version, like maemo0005 and maemo5000 May 06 08:20:01 maemo5-triple-0 May 06 08:20:20 s/0/oh/ May 06 08:20:20 DocScrutinizer05 meant: maemo5-triple-oh May 06 08:20:57 * DocScrutinizer05 seems to feel silly May 06 08:23:43 <3 rsync May 06 08:23:48 sent 109 bytes received 1,105 bytes 809.33 bytes/sec May 06 08:23:49 total size is 10,549,943,527 speedup is 8,690,233.55 May 06 09:28:20 i've just received an Arty board May 06 09:31:32 kerio: use n900 as panu and have ur wireless connection. If that works I could move inmediately to that version whatever it is called May 06 09:31:57 i do that May 06 09:31:59 it's just annoying May 06 09:32:04 and bluetooth pan is hella slow May 06 09:32:40 kerio: how many kbps in my case it is 100 kbps bluetooth access point is the n800 May 06 09:51:15 DocScrutinizer05, hello you May 06 09:51:29 what's up with whatsapp? May 06 09:51:41 afyk May 06 09:51:55 afayk May 06 09:51:57 pleaase see chanlog May 06 09:52:03 uff May 06 09:52:14 infobot, what's chanlog May 06 09:52:18 also I'm not involved into any whatsoup stuff May 06 09:52:26 soup? May 06 09:52:26 /topic May 06 09:52:31 rofl May 06 09:53:14 infobot: chanlog May 06 09:53:30 doesn't know chanlog it seems May 06 09:53:36 /chanlog May 06 09:53:53 infobot, learn chanlog please May 06 09:54:20 ~listkeys chanlog May 06 09:54:22 Factoid search of 'chanlog' by key returned no results. May 06 09:54:41 ~#maemo chanlog is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog May 06 09:54:42 okay, DocScrutinizer05 May 06 09:54:49 ~chanlog May 06 09:54:49 rumour has it, chanlog is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog May 06 09:54:59 ~log May 06 09:55:00 official maemo logs are at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog May 06 09:55:07 meh May 06 09:55:36 infobot: no, #maemo chanlog is see log May 06 09:55:36 okay, DocScrutinizer05 May 06 09:55:41 ~chanlog May 06 09:55:42 official maemo logs are at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog May 06 09:56:55 t h a n k y U infobot May 06 09:57:26 she doesn't kno 1337speak May 06 09:58:17 if you want to thank her, use proper english words May 06 09:59:13 thanks infobot May 06 09:59:13 no problem, DocScrutinizer05 May 06 10:24:54 infobot serve me the chanlog May 06 10:24:54 * infobot cooks up a 6 course meal, made from the very best ingredients and containing all the favorite foods of me the chanlog, and then serves it to me the chanlog on the best china & using the best crystal and silver May 06 10:25:13 that's not it May 06 10:25:23 call the chef infobot May 06 12:15:34 do any irrlicht-examples work on maemo 5? not to my knowledge... pure virtual method called, terminate called without an active exception, Aborted May 06 12:20:25 and, gnugo needs better icon for its shortcut. Having GUI would be even nicer, but that would be a separate package May 06 12:22:23 also, isn't it poor habit to put executables into /opt/package/bin, instead of /opt/bin or /opt/usr/bin or other well-known directory? May 06 12:22:54 * Oksanaa is just annoyed as user at having to type full path to elf, instead of typing binary's name May 06 12:24:53 /opt has no habit May 06 12:25:04 but honestly, /opt/packagename is probably better May 06 12:26:55 why? it's not like it's hidden file, to be used by system only and never seen by user May 06 12:28:59 well, if gnugo package had either its own gnugo.desktop , or a gui package with gnugogui.desktop , I would not have been complaining that much May 06 13:57:37 any binary in /opt is supposed to have a symlink in /usr/bin May 06 13:57:53 literaly any May 06 13:59:10 unless it's similar to "lib" executables **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 07 02:59:58 2016