**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 26 02:59:58 2016 Jul 26 05:58:30 Look ma, no malloc: https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/23783a33d9ec43e8be42632566e8d1f9 Jul 26 05:59:37 10:47:38 < DocScrutinizer05> do we have a council still? Jul 26 05:59:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5oLQVieB4U Jul 26 06:44:01 he he Jul 26 07:01:21 Maxdamantus: only alloca? ;-) Jul 26 07:02:05 No. Only calls to glibc functions. Jul 26 07:02:09 only static mallocs on stack ;) Jul 26 07:02:29 What stack? gcc -O4 inlines everything. Jul 26 07:02:34 well, except for `failp`. Jul 26 07:02:37 and im pretty sure some glibc functions still use malloc Jul 26 07:02:59 maxd,thought O3 is the max? Jul 26 07:03:24 Not really. Jul 26 07:03:44 It has -O4 as well, but whether or not it's "the max" is difficult to say. Jul 26 07:03:50 Pattern not found (press RETURN) Jul 26 07:03:54 in manual Jul 26 07:03:55 They're all just aliases for a bunch of optimisation flags. Jul 26 07:04:06 -O -O0 -O1 -O2 -O3 -Os -Ofast -Og Jul 26 07:04:17 unless you have edited gcc specs on your system Jul 26 07:04:52 Oh, maybe it doesn't exist then. Jul 26 07:04:55 so -O3 Jul 26 07:05:05 * Maxdamantus wonders how long he's been writing -O4 for. Jul 26 07:06:06 -O Set optimization level to Jul 26 07:06:33 Seems like it could theoretically enable extra things with arbitrary numbers, dunno. Jul 26 07:06:43 nope Jul 26 07:09:25 * toplev.c: Add flag_ip, enable by default at -O4+ (This is not set in stone, and thus, not documented). Jul 26 07:11:09 https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/gcc/opts.c#L380 Jul 26 07:12:36 if ((unsigned int) opts->x_optimize > 255) opts->x_optimize = 255; Jul 26 07:13:08 best test,compile at O3 then at O4 andbinary compare Jul 26 07:13:19 They produce the same binaries in this case. Jul 26 07:13:22 (drat, my spacebar is dying) Jul 26 07:15:02 http://cboard.cprogramming.com/c-programming/125896-gcc-o4-what-use.html#post938271 Jul 26 07:15:05 same output Jul 26 07:16:59 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization#What_about_-O_levels_higher_than_3.3F Jul 26 07:20:18 fwiw, the quoted code there seems to be out-of-date. Jul 26 07:31:11 Maxdamantus: what gcc are you using Jul 26 07:31:14 I see no -O4 Jul 26 07:31:38 ah, Jul 26 07:31:41 * Wizzup read backlog now Jul 26 07:34:42 But yes, afaics it isn't going to have any effect. Jul 26 07:35:43 (based on looking at the actual gcc source code, not some quote of a random snippet from 2008 on the Gentoo wiki) Jul 26 08:19:36 -O>3 is the same as -O3, yes Jul 26 08:19:37 afk Jul 26 09:29:01 Hrrrm Jul 26 09:29:33 is the N900 camera application crashing (and occasionalyl creating unreadable 'unable to display image' jpgs) a known fault? Jul 26 09:38:36 anything in dmesg? (segv, oom, ....) Jul 26 09:41:03 and maybe permissions on the DCIM directory? Jul 26 09:41:31 i seem to remember N900 camera application being very fussy Jul 26 09:42:19 never had cam app crash (on stock) Jul 26 09:51:12 It sometimes crashes for me. Jul 26 09:51:32 fwiw, I remember it having serious issues when the DCIM directory had lots of files in it. Jul 26 09:52:05 (so I wrote a script to move them from DCIM to other directories based on their timestamps) Jul 26 09:52:37 bencoh: i'll look next time it happens Jul 26 09:52:44 Maxdamantus: noted, // understood Jul 26 09:52:57 Maxdamantus: ext4 on sdcard DCIM/ directory ... nothing special Jul 26 09:55:01 also, for additional logging you might want to run syslogd. Jul 26 09:58:56 and set up logrotate :) Jul 26 14:12:04 Hrrm.... Jul 26 14:12:16 I'm sure I've had dune(opendune??) installed on maemo ok Jul 26 14:12:48 now trying to apt-git install opendune complains about uninstallable 'bzip2' package althought there seems to be bzip2 already due to busybox or similar Jul 26 14:13:20 i wonder if this is down to some change e.g. maemo.nokia.com no longer working? etc Jul 26 14:20:39 dunno, do you use any mirrors? Jul 26 14:22:16 err not that i knew about, but do use a cssu/thumb Jul 26 14:30:13 yeah I meant, mirrors for maemo.nokia.com Jul 26 14:30:21 cssu doesnt change that Jul 26 14:31:59 hrrm, seemingcly, not, what should i change to / how ? Jul 26 14:32:32 only https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ current line Jul 26 14:34:45 ~mirrors Jul 26 14:34:45 extra, extra, read all about it, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new Jul 26 14:35:03 note I have no idea whether it is really related to your error :) Jul 26 14:35:42 I dont even know if we have a "bzip2 Jul 26 14:35:59 "bzip2"* package there. maybe it's in extras-* Jul 26 14:36:38 https://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#fremantle_repos_.28copy.26paste_sources.list.29 Jul 26 14:37:35 (appears more upd to date) -- also -- Host maemo-archive.wedrop.it not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Jul 26 14:37:46 bencoh: that mirrors link needs sorting, thats out of date clearly Jul 26 14:38:30 where do you see that wedrop.it? Jul 26 14:38:35 oh, wtf Jul 26 14:39:03 that's not the infobot key I was looking for :) Jul 26 14:39:43 ~mirror Jul 26 14:39:43 well, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new Jul 26 14:39:47 hmmm Jul 26 14:40:00 ~factinfo mirror Jul 26 14:40:01 error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) Jul 26 14:40:01 mirror -- it has been requested 22 times, last by bencoh, 22s ago. Jul 26 14:40:05 pff Jul 26 14:42:02 ~repos Jul 26 14:42:03 extra, extra, read all about it, repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos Jul 26 14:42:25 ~jrrepos Jul 26 14:42:25 [jrrepos] http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ Jul 26 14:42:33 what a mess :) Jul 26 14:49:56 * L29Ah have lost that money money money vidya Jul 26 14:50:02 * L29Ah slaps KotCzarny Jul 26 14:52:40 l29ah: wut. Jul 26 15:16:30 ping DocScrutinizer51 Jul 26 19:04:58 DocScrutinizer05, hiya! Jul 26 19:05:06 sure we have council. Jul 26 19:06:06 I think the maemo access stuff and repositories is handled by merlin1991. All the posting to council list and admin list should go to him too Jul 26 22:19:03 I want to put my contacts messages and calendar, like "user info" onto another phone Jul 26 22:19:23 as a backup, without backing up the entire flash Jul 26 22:19:32 without like "cloning the phone" Jul 26 22:19:46 is there a utility to do this? Jul 26 23:59:08 fishbulb: Are both devices Nokia N900? Jul 27 00:00:34 Contacts app has: "Syncronise from other device" , "Import contacts", "Copy from SIM card" as well as "Export contacts" (in vCard format, either 2.1 or 3.0, however you choose) Jul 27 00:01:43 * Oksana really should switch off "Proximity sensor" in Shortcutd : it gets toggled when I least expect it Jul 27 00:03:14 There is also "Transfer & Sync" in Settings app (over Bluetooth), not sure exactly what it can transfer Jul 27 00:06:53 Calendar app also allows to export each of the Calendars into a separate file. Not sure how exactly to Import it, though. Jul 27 00:09:08 fishbulb: ^ If you want to transfer everything at the same time, "Transfer & Sync" in Settings app is the one most likely able to do that. But there are multiple options, for Contacts and Calendar at least. Messages are more tricky. Jul 27 00:09:21 darn Jul 27 00:09:24 both are n900 yers Jul 27 00:09:30 I'm on my last n900 I think Jul 27 00:09:42 I have another busted usb port one for parts, could get one more iteration out of it Jul 27 00:09:50 but I have to assume this is the last one Jul 27 00:10:45 Busted usb port -> Are you going to repair it? What else is wrong with it, besides microUSB port broken off? Jul 27 00:11:24 traces really broken, I think a little metal cover inside is missing, screen isn't best Jul 27 00:11:33 someone had a go at it before I got it Jul 27 00:12:19 Huh... So, needs lots of new parts, and a good screen protector on top of new screen Jul 27 00:12:36 microUSB traces really broken? Sounds like trouble **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 27 02:59:58 2016