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Sep 30 04:01:58 <Maxdamantus> stryngs: well, they're normal X11-visible keys afaik, so you should be able to use something like xbindkeys.
Sep 30 04:12:48 <stryngs> Hmm
Sep 30 04:26:24 <stryngs> Maxdamantus: Wow, that was easy
Sep 30 04:26:26 <stryngs> f7/f8
Sep 30 04:26:31 <stryngs> Trippy cool man.  Thank you
Sep 30 04:40:37 <stryngs> Maxdamantus: Hmm, it's quirky, will have to work this out
Sep 30 04:45:17 <Maxdamantus> Quirky as in mce/maemo-xinput-sounds/whatever it is steals back control?
Sep 30 04:46:09 <Maxdamantus> (it's maemo-xinput-sounds)
Sep 30 04:52:46 <stryngs> Naw, quirky as in it defaults to /home/user/.xbindkeysrc
Sep 30 04:52:50 <stryngs> versus /root
Sep 30 04:52:51 <stryngs> But whatever
Sep 30 04:52:53 <stryngs> Fixed now
Sep 30 04:53:02 <stryngs> Thank you for the suggestion Maxdamantus 
Sep 30 04:53:16 <stryngs> Now, with the click of a button, i can launch predesignated actions
Sep 30 04:53:21 <stryngs> Very useful.
Sep 30 04:55:13 <Maxdamantus> and in case you're wondering about the shutter button, that's just two GPIO inputs that aren't normally mapped to Xorg.
Sep 30 04:56:19 <Maxdamantus> but you can watch their state by polling for POLLPRI events on some files in sysfs and reading those files to check the current state.
Sep 30 04:57:24 <Maxdamantus> like this: https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/23783a33d9ec43e8be42632566e8d1f9
Sep 30 05:14:33 <Vajb> with shortcutd one can control what camera button does, easily
Sep 30 15:09:36 <KotCzarny> porting pygtk to c/gtk is tiresome. or it might be that oscp-remote.py is actually big ;)
Sep 30 15:53:44 <sicelo> re - connectbot .. a large part of the provlem is that android does not overlay the vkbd the way mameo does. instead it resizes the window to fit the keyboard ...which really sucks for irssi .. or maybe ican find an overlaying typs of vkb
Sep 30 15:54:51 <KotCzarny> sicelo, or add speech input method?
Sep 30 15:55:06 <KotCzarny> might be funny though ircing via speech ;)
Sep 30 15:56:18 <sicelo> haha .. and sounding crazy. will leave irc to n900
Sep 30 16:10:32 <zGrr> Speech recognition is good for devices lacking physical keyboard. 
Sep 30 16:10:50 <zGrr> Which is not the case with N900
Sep 30 16:15:13 <KotCzarny> but he is having troubles with droid device
Sep 30 16:15:33 <KotCzarny> as opposed to perfectness of n900 as irc client
Sep 30 16:16:40 <zGrr> i have never seen speech recognition that works correctly. 
Sep 30 16:16:57 <zGrr> it is barely good enough for the simple input. 
Sep 30 16:17:19 <zGrr> i would forget about ircing via speech to text
Sep 30 16:17:37 <KotCzarny> that would be silly anyway
Sep 30 16:18:18 <KotCzarny> not to mention it would send all your thoughts to google
Sep 30 16:18:27 <zGrr> by the way, do you know russian band called групировка ленинград?
Sep 30 16:19:27 <zGrr> i love their recent video where the taxi driver struggles with the speech recognition of the satellite navigation. 
Sep 30 16:19:56 <KotCzarny> only latin2 console here, your utf missed my parser ;)
Sep 30 16:20:22 <zGrr> :)
Sep 30 16:21:00 <zGrr> they are called grupirovka leningrad. 
Sep 30 16:21:32 <KotCzarny> i only know about leningrad cowboys
Sep 30 16:23:48 <zGrr> they are different, but you won't be able to watch their videos on the latin2 console anyway. :)
Sep 30 17:06:36 <Vajb> i can happily announce that maemo irssi works well with utf-8 :)
Sep 30 23:52:17 <DocScrutinizer05> ♪♫
Sep 30 23:52:52 <DocScrutinizer05> 12 648 430
Sep 30 23:53:14 <DocScrutinizer05> ☕
Sep 30 23:53:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ☺
Sep 30 23:54:01 <DocScrutinizer05> btw 12 648 430 == 0x%hotbev 
Sep 30 23:54:07 <DocScrutinizer05> btw 12 648 430 == 0x ☕ 
Sep 30 23:54:49 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05 is drunk
Sep 30 23:54:52 <kerio> :3
Sep 30 23:55:03 <DocScrutinizer05> ☹
Sep 30 23:55:11 <kerio> or maybe he just bought an iphone
Sep 30 23:55:19 <DocScrutinizer05> maemo irssi always worked with utf-8
Sep 30 23:55:21 <kerio> 😂👌💯
Sep 30 23:55:39 <kerio> what's with the sudden burst of emoji tho
Sep 30 23:55:49 <DocScrutinizer05> since ossi-xterm does
Sep 30 23:56:14 <DocScrutinizer05> sudden burst? all UTF8
Sep 30 23:57:10 <DocScrutinizer05> hotbev is a rather exotic codepoint though
Sep 30 23:58:26 <kerio> 💇🏼‍♂️ this fucking emoji is 17 bytes
Sep 30 23:58:32 <kerio> F0 9F 92 87 F0 9F 8F BC E2 80 8D E2 99 82 EF B8
Sep 30 23:59:22 <DocScrutinizer05> looks like 3 to me, the first two of which my client / system doesn't render
Sep 30 23:59:55 <kerio> inferior free software emojis
Oct 01 00:00:40 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd almost bet that F0 9F 92 87 is one and F0 9F 8F BC is another one
Oct 01 00:00:56 <kerio> it's like
Oct 01 00:01:03 <kerio> yellow man getting a haircut
Oct 01 00:01:04 <DocScrutinizer05> no idea about the E2 80 8D E2 99 82 EF B8 ‍♂ rest
Oct 01 00:01:14 <kerio> and then like
Oct 01 00:01:32 <kerio> "combining color skin kind of dark pink"
Oct 01 00:01:40 <kerio> and "combined emoji"
Oct 01 00:02:02 <kerio> U+1F487 U+200D U+2642 U+FE0F
Oct 01 00:03:00 <kerio> so it's actually four codepoints making up the emoji
Oct 01 00:05:52 <DocScrutinizer05> nfc what you're talking about
Oct 01 00:06:32 <kerio> http://emojipedia.org/man-getting-haircut-type-3/
Oct 01 00:07:09 <DocScrutinizer05> WTF?!
Oct 01 00:07:39 <kerio> are u upset
Oct 01 00:07:43 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2016/10/01/plasma-desktopZA2309.png <<-- already thought *you* were drunk, particularly since the second line are 16 bytes
Oct 01 00:09:12 <DocScrutinizer05> >>Man Getting Haircut, Type-3 was added to draft Emoji 4.0 in 2016.<< MY ASS!
Oct 01 00:09:22 <kerio> you sound upset
Oct 01 00:09:48 <DocScrutinizer05> I am
Oct 01 00:11:48 <DocScrutinizer05> "what? you couldn't read my MMS HTML email with embedded Type-3 Man Getting raped by Steve Jobs Emoji 4.7 ??"
Oct 01 00:11:55 <kerio> 👨‍👩‍👧‍👧
Oct 01 00:12:11 <kerio> seven codepoints, three of which outside of the basic multilingual plane
Oct 01 00:12:19 <kerio> http://emojipedia.org/family-man-woman-girl-girl/
Oct 01 00:12:35 <KotCzarny> that is sad, people fogetting how to write and communicating via images again
Oct 01 00:12:47 <KotCzarny> i wonder how long till we fall back to grunts
Oct 01 00:14:40 <DocScrutinizer05> 🖕
Oct 01 00:14:48 <kerio> yes, emojis are singlehandedly responsible for the downfall of civilization
Oct 01 00:15:07 * KotCzarny grunts at kerio
Oct 01 00:15:35 <DocScrutinizer05> just in case your system didn't render that one:  REVERSED HAND WITH MIDDLE FINGER EXTENDED' (U+1F595)
Oct 01 00:15:44 <kerio> my system rendered that
Oct 01 00:15:58 <kerio> my irc client uses webkit to render channels
Oct 01 00:16:15 <DocScrutinizer05> that means little
Oct 01 00:16:28 <kerio> and i use appleware 
Oct 01 00:16:34 <DocScrutinizer05> my browser is based on webkit and still lacks the codepage in system
Oct 01 00:16:39 <kerio> *font
Oct 01 00:16:43 <kerio> there's no codepages
Oct 01 00:16:48 <kerio> there's only utf8
Oct 01 00:16:50 <DocScrutinizer05> whatever
Oct 01 00:16:52 <kerio> because it's 2016
Oct 01 00:17:24 <KotCzarny> i wonder if you can be ddos'ed by emoji overflow
Oct 01 00:17:35 <kerio> 🔫 this used to be a gun
Oct 01 00:17:43 <kerio> in macos sierra and ios 10, it's a water gun
Oct 01 00:18:03 <KotCzarny> in ios 11 it will be a dildo gun
Oct 01 00:18:07 <DocScrutinizer05> this is so toal bullshit
Oct 01 00:18:12 <DocScrutinizer05> total even
Oct 01 00:18:30 <DocScrutinizer05> why don't they already send jpg ?
Oct 01 00:18:32 <kerio> my irc client is using 215MB of ram
Oct 01 00:18:46 <kerio> ☺️
Oct 01 00:19:06 <KotCzarny> mine is using 3 or 4
Oct 01 00:19:11 <KotCzarny> eh
Oct 01 00:19:53 <Birchy> do you guys know if Maemo has a C++11 compiler?
Oct 01 00:20:05 <Birchy> and if so, where do I get a toolchain nowadays?
Oct 01 00:20:25 <KotCzarny> is 4.7.2 c++11 ?
Oct 01 00:21:13 <KotCzarny> someone compiled 5.3.0 for native compiles though (useful for chroots on arm host)
Oct 01 00:21:21 <Birchy> i need GCC 4.8 features
Oct 01 00:21:26 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2016/10/01/plasma-desktopqP2309.png 725 byte, and I bet with less antialiasing it would shring to 70
Oct 01 00:21:27 <KotCzarny> 4.8 is buggy
Oct 01 00:21:29 <DocScrutinizer05> shrink
Oct 01 00:21:35 <KotCzarny> dont use it
Oct 01 00:21:47 <KotCzarny> https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1497813
Oct 01 00:21:49 <Birchy> alright, it's just that the features arrived in that version
Oct 01 00:22:26 <DocScrutinizer05> Birchy: afaik freemangordon1 got 4.7
Oct 01 00:22:42 <KotCzarny> https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96926
Oct 01 00:22:44 <KotCzarny> 6.1 here
Oct 01 00:22:50 <Birchy> thanks, KotCzarny, this is neat
Oct 01 00:22:53 <DocScrutinizer05> not sure about 4.8
Oct 01 00:23:11 <KotCzarny> but remember its compiled for armel, so it will be slow in scratchbox
Oct 01 00:23:22 <KotCzarny> should work though
Oct 01 00:23:27 <Birchy> i will probably set up a chroot
Oct 01 00:23:50 <Birchy> docker can do a lot these days
Oct 01 00:24:20 <KotCzarny> i just use quad core a7 based dev board (they go as cheap as ~10usd)
Oct 01 00:24:57 <Birchy> sadly, all I have are Raspberry Pis apart from the N900
Oct 01 00:26:51 <DocScrutinizer05> >>If you are receiving this email in error, unsubscribe at http://mandrillapp.com/track/unsub.php?u=30850198&id=f83dbc5319cd42aeb191bfc (HTTP link, we know. We're working on it!)
Oct 01 00:26:53 <DocScrutinizer05> Regards,
Oct 01 00:26:54 <DocScrutinizer05> The Let's Encrypt Team<<
Oct 01 00:26:56 <DocScrutinizer05> ROTFL
Oct 01 00:28:17 <KotCzarny> keep in mind that using c++ might require bundling libstdc++
Oct 01 00:29:14 <Birchy> of course
Oct 01 00:29:15 <DocScrutinizer05> and what the heck is http://mandrillapp.com anyway? :-o
Oct 01 00:29:40 <Birchy> DocScrutinizer05, sounds like they manage mailing lists
Oct 01 01:24:55 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6919#page-3
Oct 01 01:25:03 <kerio> er, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6919 in general
Oct 01 01:54:26 <DocScrutinizer05> dafaq
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