**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 20 02:59:59 2016 Oct 20 04:18:21 parazyd: I was sure it is the watchdog :) Oct 20 04:20:50 ds3: no, we'll get to nowhere with the old code. The problem being mostly with recent SSL changes (more and more sites disable old algos supported by maemo) Oct 20 04:54:43 ~bupbat Oct 20 04:54:44 well, bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 Oct 20 04:54:52 l29ah: ^ Oct 20 05:00:35 not looking forward to Oct 20 05:00:37 haha Oct 20 05:03:10 hmm, doesn't look like a hard job Oct 20 05:04:48 I suppose I can get no transportation fees if I order from places like alibaba Oct 20 06:08:00 Recent SSL changes... How difficult is it to upgrade openssl-or-something? Regarding both depends and rdepends? Oct 20 08:37:33 Oksana: iirc there's an openssl 0.9.8 that's still supported by redhat Oct 20 08:37:37 so we could use that Oct 20 08:37:38 maybe Oct 20 08:49:16 another nice feature of systemd: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E52668_01/E67200/html/section-t51_kcn_f5.html Oct 20 08:57:01 LUL Oct 20 08:57:31 "This setting, which is intended for laptops, can cause software problems on server systems." Oct 20 08:57:37 that's basically systemd in a nutshell Oct 20 09:06:39 sooo Oct 20 09:08:39 it means debian and rh can say buh-bye for servers? ;) Oct 20 09:42:49 Cannot install qrcode plug-in for mbarcode because of missing dependencies like libqtm-12-contacts or something. Any ideas? Oct 20 09:57:35 so i wasn't too dumb after all in connection with modrana ... http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1517008&postcount=1908 Oct 20 09:58:33 tldr : offline map rendering + routing is sketchy on modrana n900 Oct 20 10:07:07 Sicelo: well ... I think batch tile download is enough tbh, but ... Oct 20 10:08:09 well, if it works like marble (cache tiles on disk for later access even after quitting/relaunching app), but I suppose it does Oct 20 10:21:31 the issue with batch til download is the zoom levels .. i actually asked for help here about two weeks ago. i am not saying/suggesting modrana is bad .. it's actually good and i like it .. but for some use cases, it's quite difficult Oct 20 10:23:06 KotCzarny: well i mean Oct 20 10:23:27 i don't really know how can you look at the systemd situation and not start planning for a migration to some other unix for your servers Oct 20 10:23:32 unless you're a redhat shop Oct 20 10:46:14 Sicelo: you can always edit your map configuration file to allow downloading the last 2 zoom levels, but iirc it's an OSM directive not to batch download those Oct 20 10:46:30 and only download/cache it when client explicitely needs it Oct 20 10:46:42 (to help with server load) Oct 20 10:50:22 ok it's on aliexpress Oct 20 10:51:09 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-lot-PAS414HR-VG1/32752711772.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=750688f4-0e7e-4692-a4cd-eed909e26a73 Oct 20 10:52:31 eh, no, it looks kinda inverted Oct 20 10:53:13 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-10PCS-PAS414HR-VG1-XH414HG-IV01E-Gold-mobile-phone-backup-battery-capacitor/32435990847.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=750688f4-0e7e-4692-a4cd-eed909e26a73 Oct 20 10:53:15 there is it Oct 20 11:25:52 nice url :) Oct 20 15:29:33 would it be safe to power up a board such as RPi/BBB with a powered USB hub, and have the same hub connected to the board's host USB port? Oct 20 15:38:36 i suppose it's fine :-/ Oct 20 15:53:58 look at the board rating Oct 20 15:54:57 and it depends on the hub capabilities, some just provide direct 5v from the ac adapter Oct 20 15:56:30 freemangordon: SSL is mostly na issue with the browser, right? Oct 20 15:56:39 nope Oct 20 15:56:43 mail too Oct 20 15:56:57 and other services that use security via ssl Oct 20 15:59:41 ie. instant messaging, irc Oct 20 15:59:52 quite everything network wise Oct 20 16:07:51 ds3: ^^^ Oct 20 16:08:09 ds3: not only openssl issue, but gnuetls as well Oct 20 16:08:15 *gnutls Oct 20 16:30:23 trying to think of an app that would matter Oct 20 16:31:43 mail Oct 20 16:31:50 modest Oct 20 16:32:29 all the chats Oct 20 16:32:34 well, most of Oct 20 16:33:46 yes but those aren't the interesting app for an emulated environment unless you want to create conflicting data sets Oct 20 16:34:01 I suppose chats could Oct 20 16:34:33 would diving into Meego address this? Oct 20 16:38:49 I doubt Oct 20 16:39:08 btw what do you meant by "Meego"? Oct 20 17:08:54 that "supposed" successor to maemo Oct 20 17:09:07 didn't intel or nok update some of these? Oct 20 17:09:15 it is even more dead than maemo afaik Oct 20 17:09:24 afaik no Oct 20 17:14:52 sigh Oct 20 20:11:22 just to summarize things - the recommendation is to forward port the UI related patches from Meego ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 21 02:59:58 2016