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Oct 22 03:17:43 <DocScrutinizer05> xes: what you're doing? :-D
Oct 22 03:18:26 <DocScrutinizer05> ruining the 19 years uptime? ;-)
Oct 22 03:20:16 <DocScrutinizer05> oops, not really :-)
Oct 22 03:20:18 <DocScrutinizer05> [joerg@blade-a ~]$ uptime
Oct 22 03:20:20 <DocScrutinizer05>  05:19:44 up 1206 days,  2:42,  1 user,  load average: 8.26, 8.53, 9.45
Oct 22 18:16:43 <Sicelo> fis/win 22
Oct 22 19:43:32 <DocScrutinizer05> :-D  [#devuan]  <Vall> I specially like that the first ethernet interface is called "eth0", as the Gods meant it to be, and not enp0s3_systemd_sucks or something ;-)
Oct 22 19:47:43 <kerio> you mean em0
Oct 22 23:18:16 <Maxdamantus> fwiw, my Debian system at work also has `eth0` as the first ethernet device.
Oct 22 23:18:20 <Maxdamantus> (running systemd)
Oct 22 23:19:21 <Maxdamantus> not sure what the conditions are for devices to be renamed, but I don't think they're specific to systemd.
Oct 22 23:31:41 <jon_y> Maxdamantus: udev
Oct 22 23:31:55 <jon_y> net.ifnames=0 should prevent renames
Oct 22 23:32:16 <Maxdamantus> Yeah, I guessed it would be something in udev. afaik systemd just reimplements something that follows the same rules system.
Oct 22 23:32:27 <Maxdamantus> or maybe merged udev in or something.
Oct 22 23:32:44 <jon_y> yeah it has its tendrils in udev
Oct 22 23:32:53 <jon_y> gentoo forked it with eudev
Oct 22 23:33:29 <jon_y> eudev too has that IF rename to keep consistent with udev, so net.ifnames=0 will work there too
Oct 22 23:34:04 <jon_y> systemd too made its own bootloader
Oct 22 23:34:16 <jon_y> well, more like it ate gummi-boot
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