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Nov 07 07:39:25 <freemangordon> jonwil: libdevlock should be ready for extensive testing, initial tests(lock, unlock, lock code change, autolock timeout change) are passing
Nov 07 07:39:36 <jonwil> ok, great
Nov 07 09:37:49 <jonwil> hi
Nov 07 09:38:32 <zGrr> moin 
Nov 07 19:32:35 <L29Ah> Package coreutils is a virtual package provided by:
Nov 07 19:32:36 <L29Ah>   busybox 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso31+0cssu0
Nov 07 19:32:38 <L29Ah> :(
Nov 07 19:32:55 <KotCzarny> try coreutils-gnu
Nov 07 19:33:05 <KotCzarny> \or gnu-coreutils, or something
Nov 07 19:33:39 <L29Ah> :*
Nov 07 19:33:55 <L29Ah> in fact i'm trying to find where does n900 store its sms database
Nov 07 19:34:07 <KotCzarny> in home
Nov 07 19:34:24 <sicelo> el-v1.db 
Nov 07 19:39:35 <L29Ah> :*
Nov 07 19:58:52 <sicelo> how do you do somehting like N = N+1 in bash? 
Nov 07 19:59:09 <KotCzarny> N = $[ $N + 1 ]
Nov 07 19:59:10 <sicelo> where N is a variable holding a number
Nov 07 19:59:14 <KotCzarny> spaces importantes
Nov 07 19:59:15 <sicelo> ah, thatnks
Nov 07 19:59:23 <KotCzarny> or: N = $(( $N + 1 ))
Nov 07 19:59:28 <KotCzarny> diff. syntax a bit
Nov 07 19:59:34 <KotCzarny> both do the same
Nov 07 19:59:38 <sicelo> makes sense though. awesome
Nov 07 20:00:14 <KotCzarny> i think there was also a way of: set -i N; incr N (or $N), but i think it was shell dependent
Nov 07 20:04:29 <sicelo> the 2nd one doesn't seem to work :-/
Nov 07 20:04:31 <sicelo> trying the 1st
Nov 07 20:06:52 <KotCzarny> you can also use: let N++
Nov 07 20:08:26 <sicelo> that one works perfectly. thanks!
Nov 07 20:08:28 <KotCzarny> for a quickie do: man bash, press /, then enter: post-incr, then press enter
Nov 07 20:10:08 <sicelo> here's what i'm doing with it, http://paste.debian.net/893402/
Nov 07 20:10:54 <_maniac_> I keep http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/ open when I forget shell syntax (i.e. every time I need to write something larger than 10 lines)
Nov 07 20:11:39 <KotCzarny> i tend to use /usr/bin/php for my scripting language of choice for anything more complicated and requiring quick mash-up
Nov 07 20:11:44 <sicelo> maybe there's better way .. but i have named pictures, and their resized duplicates, numbeedr 0.jpg, etc. So I want to rename the duplicates to have the original name, deleting the original fles in the process
Nov 07 20:12:03 <KotCzarny> sicelo: using bash is the right way
Nov 07 20:12:29 <_maniac_> the only thing I would run php for is quick base64 decode
Nov 07 20:13:36 <KotCzarny> html scraping/parsing is what i do usually
Nov 07 20:13:52 <KotCzarny> perl is a bit too hardcore in its syntax
Nov 07 20:14:01 <KotCzarny> and bash too simple
Nov 07 20:14:13 <_maniac_> I used ruby with selenium for my last scraping project
Nov 07 20:14:33 <KotCzarny> i like php's lazy variables
Nov 07 20:14:53 <KotCzarny> string, number, array, whatever you like it to be at the moment ;)
Nov 07 20:15:13 <KotCzarny> cost is speed of course, but those mashups are usually one-off
Nov 07 20:15:54 <KotCzarny> and php-cli binary is small enough to be included wihtout any additional modules
Nov 07 20:17:25 <KotCzarny> another php bonus is c-like syntax
Nov 07 20:18:18 <_maniac_> I spent 6 years (or so) writing php. I know it has some good parts.
Nov 07 20:19:19 <KotCzarny> good parts are simplicity, bad parts is chaos
Nov 07 20:19:56 <sicelo> python (for scraping)?
Nov 07 20:20:26 <KotCzarny> i like to write messy code
Nov 07 20:20:48 <KotCzarny> ie. to have as much code as possible without losing readability on screen at once
Nov 07 20:21:20 <_maniac_> you might want to use perl after all ;)
Nov 07 20:24:14 <KotCzarny> nah, unless i get some good lessons
Nov 07 20:24:14 <KotCzarny> and readability of perl is miniscule ;)
Nov 07 20:24:14 <KotCzarny> with c-like syntax you can at least untangle it easily
Nov 07 20:38:21 <jonwil> hi
Nov 07 20:38:44 <CatButts> uhllo
Nov 07 22:38:52 * Oksana whistles.... http://bokomoko.de/~rd/maemo/unstable/ has navit_0.5.0+dfsg.1-1maemo1~6012_armel.deb while http://maemo.org/packages/view/navit/ has navit_0.2.0~svn2916+dfsg.1-1maemo1_armel.deb
Nov 08 01:03:25 * Oksana wonders where navit_0.5.0+dfsg.1-1maemo1~6534_armel.deb comes from
Nov 08 01:08:02 <Oksana> Extras-devel, apparently? http://maemo.org/packages/view/navit/ is very misleading
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