**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 11 03:00:01 2016 Dec 11 09:08:32 hi Dec 11 09:57:33 Car charger does not charge n900. Simply by my understanding (& memory), the n900 requires a dumb charger (or can short pins on smart charger). Dec 11 09:58:00 Question: Does this sort of thing need to be considered with power banks? Dec 11 10:05:27 mike727_7686: i would use known good cable. Dec 11 10:06:23 i mean like nokia data cable Dec 11 10:09:29 The issue he mentioned doesn't have to do with the cable. Dec 11 10:09:46 Supposedly you can override this stuff in software. Dec 11 10:10:03 * Maxdamantus has just soldered the pins together on a couple of power supplies. Dec 11 10:10:36 wouldnt it be better to add a resitor? Dec 11 10:11:54 # cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq24150a-0/current_limit Dec 11 10:11:54 100 Dec 11 10:12:38 I think you can just write `500` to that file, but I don't want to personally suggest it (someone else can, I don't want to be responsible for anything) Dec 11 10:13:20 KotCzarny: no. The data pins are simply meant to be shorted on power supplies that don't have controllers that can negotiate current limits with devices. Dec 11 10:15:04 KotCzarny: that's the standard way to indicate that devices can draw the maximum current by default (otherwise they have to negotiate for it, which obviously can't happen if there is no computer/microchip) Dec 11 10:15:24 ahm Dec 11 10:24:27 Interesting, thanks Dec 11 10:25:25 mike_727_235: what was the last message you saw btw? your connection got ping timeouted. Dec 11 10:28:30 dealing with a cheap ethernet cable. Just looked at the log, which showed allthe way up to me joining again. Dec 11 10:28:43 Ah. Dec 11 10:36:55 Hello again Dec 11 10:39:21 oh i didn't know that. I guess i have then just been lucky with my charger selections. I have cheap powerbank, cheap car charger and nokia wall charger Dec 11 10:39:47 which is n9 default charger i think Dec 11 10:40:35 Aehem Dec 11 10:52:30 Iam soconfused ..it seems that i have already a powerkernel installed but not bootet to it ..? ..And ihave this bootmenü installed andalso backupmanü .. Inver used it ...is it possible that ihave to boot up my n900 with keyboaerd open or something and then choose and voila have poerkernel ? Dec 11 10:54:37 Please anyone Dec 11 10:54:57 reflash, start from installing clean cssu etc Dec 11 10:57:52 Is it realy that messi inyour opinien doc ? ..Or can i damage my n900 if igo further from here ? Please reflash is alot ofwork here with all things on my n900 and contacts AND thebrokenmdisplay atthemoment (iam using a beamer with the analogvideooutput onthis n900 rightnow soi cansee) Dec 11 10:59:24 if you dont know what you are doing, you either spend lots of time fixing it, or start with known good config (ie. clean reflash) Dec 11 10:59:26 Please tellme how i can make use of bootmenü and the maybe already existing powerkernel here and if i can update this powerkernel ! Dec 11 10:59:33 ~bootmenu Dec 11 10:59:37 ~ping Dec 11 10:59:38 ~pong Dec 11 11:00:29 ?? :D pingpong Dec 11 11:00:47 i think bootmenu wasnt good idea Dec 11 11:00:56 but cant find the link Dec 11 11:01:16 ~boot-menu Dec 11 11:01:24 Iheared bootmenü is better than uboot ...not right? Dec 11 11:01:26 ~listkeys boot Dec 11 11:01:28 Factoid search of 'boot' by key (17 of 175): #maemo pc_bootlog ;; #maemo u-boot ;; [netherwind boots] ;; barboot ;; boot disk drivers ;; boot disk url ;; boot mikk ;; bootanim ;; bootldr ;; bootldr...where ;; bootless ;; bootlogo ;; booty rap ;; cmd: bootloader (.*?) ;; cmd: reboot (.*?) ;; dual boot ;; dualbooting. Dec 11 11:01:44 ~listkeys #maemo boot Dec 11 11:01:45 Factoid search of '#maemo boot' by key (2): #maemo boot-process ;; #maemo bootloop. Dec 11 11:01:53 ~listkeys #maemo menu Dec 11 11:01:54 Factoid search of '#maemo menu' by key returned no results. Dec 11 11:02:03 ~listkeys boot menu Dec 11 11:02:05 Factoid search of 'boot menu' by key returned no results. Dec 11 11:02:22 ~u-boot Dec 11 11:02:22 somebody said u-boot was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 Dec 11 11:03:05 read that page Dec 11 11:03:26 as its what you probably have Dec 11 11:06:30 ah, right. it was the multiboot that was dangerous Dec 11 11:06:57 Iam confused and afraid :) so itsays look ifthere are oldones and uninstall andtehn ..! ...Imlooking Dec 11 11:11:56 Omygod doc ... Me andmy n900's ...thisone has a working usb but damaged display and idont want tochange the display rightknow with aworkingone becouse iam afriad of more/new problems forexample like shitagain with the cable for the display etc so ileave evrything andmoveon and this n900 is pretty clean ..ijust need itssems to SWITCH to powerkernel ...iwouldlike to see/check if there is already a working bootmenü of any kind and the powerkernel Dec 11 11:17:33 I also thing imaybe forget to so isay it know merrychristmas to you allofyou and ahapyknewyear ifeal so christmaslike already ...socold outside ..nosnow forknow but maybe :) Dec 11 11:18:33 And ihope maemo does last olongtime longer and n900 43wW4 !!! ;) Dec 11 11:20:20 Ithin i just getoverit and test it know ... Ithin it was booting with open keyboard ...ihope videoout works on that level becouse acantseeshit onthis display :) Dec 11 11:21:57 See u soon hopefully (yea maybe not this fladnag gets onmynervs xD) Dec 11 11:49:19 KotCzarny: zram is compcache with a new name, right? Dec 11 11:50:18 similar idea, different execution Dec 11 11:50:56 zram creates block device Dec 11 11:51:05 si you can use it as ramdisk or ramswap Dec 11 11:51:24 compcache i think compressses pages in mem Dec 11 11:51:38 yes Dec 11 11:51:56 compcache creates block device as well Dec 11 11:52:19 for compressed ramswap Dec 11 11:52:21 if you create swap on it will it work? Dec 11 11:52:31 yes, but it makes no sense on n900 Dec 11 11:52:42 already tried, search TMO Dec 11 11:52:54 ho-hum Dec 11 11:53:56 KotCzarny: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=76112 Dec 11 11:57:59 i think trick is to use sensible value for the size Dec 11 11:58:13 and free as much mem as possible first Dec 11 11:58:21 gotta try it Dec 11 12:02:16 hmm Dec 11 12:02:34 # echo $[32*1024*1024] >/sys/block/ramzswap0/size Dec 11 12:02:34 -sh: cannot create /sys/block/ramzswap0/size: Permission denied Dec 11 12:02:51 it doesnt support dynamic resizing? Dec 11 12:03:50 might be dumb shell. nvm Dec 11 12:31:15 hmm, maemo has swapon with -p support? Dec 11 12:33:10 and where can i add things to run on boot, is /etc/rc.local called? Dec 11 12:34:18 KotCzarny: upstart Dec 11 12:34:27 never used it, that's why im asking Dec 11 12:34:37 create event.d service Dec 11 12:34:48 and mark it to start at boot Dec 11 12:35:24 would be nice to have such service by default (that would call /etc/rc.local) Dec 11 12:36:07 there is some rcSlocal Dec 11 12:36:11 or how it is called Dec 11 12:36:17 but that should not be edited Dec 11 12:36:20 rcS-late? Dec 11 12:36:32 yes Dec 11 12:36:42 but you must not edit those files Dec 11 12:36:53 as maemo system itself uses it Dec 11 12:37:00 but i shouldnt edit it. what im suggesting there should be a default service to call user's script Dec 11 12:37:03 and when updating (e.g. cssu) it can update those files Dec 11 12:37:28 make from your user script upstart script Dec 11 12:37:34 and put it into /etc/event.d/ Dec 11 12:37:40 that is maemo way Dec 11 12:38:38 created file rc-local with contents: Dec 11 12:38:40 http://pastebin.com/raw/Pd8hb1fD Dec 11 12:39:23 no idea if startup will work Dec 11 12:39:39 you probably needs at leat /opt mounted Dec 11 12:39:43 which is the last boot thing? Dec 11 12:39:50 after all bootup scripts? Dec 11 12:39:51 there is no last thing Dec 11 12:39:58 there are dependences Dec 11 12:40:02 start on started hal ? Dec 11 12:40:06 no Dec 11 12:40:13 as wrote there is no last thing Dec 11 12:40:29 daemons which do not depend on themself are started in undefined order Dec 11 12:40:33 can i use start on started rsS-late ? Dec 11 12:40:49 I do not know, it depends on your script what it needs Dec 11 12:41:22 you need to write event.d file and mark it with correct dependency Dec 11 12:41:25 creating it as a generic runnable after all boot scripts ran Dec 11 12:41:32 not possible Dec 11 12:41:34 dependency is other script names? Dec 11 12:41:36 there is no generic Dec 11 12:41:51 dependeny is other event.d service Dec 11 12:41:57 or upstart signal Dec 11 12:42:05 i think 'start on started rcS-late' is proper one Dec 11 12:42:13 as it mounts filesystems etc Dec 11 12:42:41 ideally look for existing upstart services Dec 11 12:42:57 there is IIRC some event that /opt was mounted Dec 11 12:42:59 looked, and rcS-late seems the thing Dec 11 12:43:21 rcS-late mounts /opt, swapons etc Dec 11 12:43:26 and user dirs Dec 11 12:43:41 initctl emit MOUNTS_OK Dec 11 12:44:07 probalby you should starts when MOUNTS_OK signal is emitted Dec 11 12:44:59 and if i only want that service to run /etc/rc.local then the only other thing in that file will be: exec /etc/rc.local ? Dec 11 12:52:10 yes, exec should be enough Dec 11 12:54:27 lets hope this experiment wont end in bootloop Dec 11 12:56:13 it didnt ran. hrm Dec 11 13:01:41 do i have to register that upstart script somehow? rerun some cache regen? Dec 11 13:15:08 umkay, changed it to run on that mounts-ok Dec 11 13:18:29 #!/bin/sh Dec 11 13:18:29 echo "[/etc/rc.local]" Dec 11 13:18:32 oops. Dec 11 13:18:36 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1520366&postcount=284 Dec 11 13:18:38 this one Dec 11 13:19:23 we will see how well it runs Dec 11 13:20:13 pali/fmg: can that rc-local service be included in cssu? Dec 11 13:20:43 it will make life of many n00bs easier i bet (and add empty /etc/rc.local too) Dec 11 13:20:51 no, as wrote there is no generic way to run script at the end Dec 11 13:21:15 pali, but having it run on mounts-ok is usually fine enough Dec 11 13:21:24 on Maemo every script should be properly wrote as upstart service with correct dependencies Dec 11 13:21:44 no it is not OK! any user script which needs dbus or hildon services will fail Dec 11 13:22:25 that will lead to another problems Dec 11 13:22:46 In past I fixed some extras packages, becuase sometimes they do not worked after boot Dec 11 13:22:47 maybe /etc/event.d/hildon-desktop emit HILDON-DESKTOP-STARTED ? Dec 11 13:22:55 *should emit Dec 11 13:22:57 and problem was really here because... Dec 11 13:23:19 you can specify "start on started hildon-desktop" Dec 11 13:23:42 but again, if your script depends on something which has specified this line, that it will not work Dec 11 13:23:57 look at dependency graph of services Dec 11 13:24:06 when i tried 'start on started rcS-late' it didnt work Dec 11 13:28:45 hm... it was never started? Dec 11 13:28:54 or what "didnt work" means? Dec 11 14:08:23 14:20:51 < Pali> no, as wrote there is no generic way to run script at the end Dec 11 14:08:29 yeah that totally annoys me aswell Dec 11 14:08:31 @ systemd Dec 11 14:08:58 in event/dependency world there is no such way Dec 11 14:09:12 gimme sysv any day :P Dec 11 14:09:24 where its perfectly normal Dec 11 14:30:51 any idea what was RX-52?? Dec 11 14:31:00 and RM-581?? Dec 11 14:31:38 $ strings /usr/sbin/sscd | grep detected Dec 11 14:32:05 it show something about RX-51, RX-52, RX-71 and RM-581 Dec 11 14:32:13 rm-581 : https://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames Dec 11 14:32:15 DocScrutinizer51: ^ Dec 11 14:32:25 " Columbus, cancelled Harmattan device, N8-ish design (The story of Nokia MeeGo, Original My Nokia Blog Story) " Dec 11 14:45:41 didnt work as in 'never ran' Dec 11 14:47:31 and as i've said, making it to depend on MOUNTS-OK made it work Dec 11 14:50:25 havent tried any other starting trigger since mounts-ok is ok for my needs Dec 11 14:55:30 /usr/share/doc/csd-call/README.gz Dec 11 14:55:50 There is example source code for csd-call: cscall.c file, simple command line call application implementation based in libcscall Dec 11 14:55:56 Copyright (C) 2007 Nokia Dec 11 14:56:13 it means that in 2007! Nokia had cellular modem and device with Maemo! Dec 11 14:58:05 unless it ran on some development board Dec 11 15:00:07 it most prolly was a Dec 11 15:00:11 "devboard" anyway :) Dec 11 15:04:23 but still it means that in 2007 they developed on Maemo cellular phone Dec 11 15:07:59 770 with a voice modem, mmm Dec 11 15:16:26 They'd have had N800 and N810 at that point, and let's not forget there was the wimax edition at that time too Dec 11 17:19:28 Goodevening Dec 11 17:21:44 What browser do you guys use on your n900 ? ... Most webpages do not show or work corretly on my maemo-standartbrowser ... Dec 11 17:24:12 fladnag900: I try and avoid browsing on n900 ... :/ Dec 11 17:24:12 none Dec 11 17:24:21 we are too short on memory Dec 11 17:24:34 so forget about it Dec 11 17:24:35 but when I do need to, I switch between microb (stock browser) and dillo Dec 11 17:24:47 microb and links here Dec 11 17:25:05 and if i reallly, really must, fennec Dec 11 17:25:19 xD me to imean thought so Dec 11 17:25:21 maybe I should try adding some touch support to dillo Dec 11 17:27:17 Dillo ...heardof but never tryed ...and fennec ..?? Whatisthat where toget and ofcourse DOC ;) why do YOU avoid it somuch :) ? Dec 11 17:27:35 fennec was a mobile project of mozilla/firefox Dec 11 17:28:01 Dont we have that already with this microb? Dec 11 17:28:20 microb is nokia's port of mozilla to maemo Dec 11 17:28:32 leveraging mozilla EAL Dec 11 17:28:52 err, browser-eal* Dec 11 17:29:25 how safe is software from extras-devel? that seems to be the only place with up to date software Dec 11 17:30:07 ...but the comunityversion eg fennec is ofcourse better than this microb forshure? ...Ithink iget right toit and lookfor inmy pmanager Dec 11 17:30:10 pkill9: to put it short, ANYONE can upload to extras-devel Dec 11 17:30:44 so, not quite. but its still better than android market ;) Dec 11 17:30:52 really? lol Dec 11 17:31:01 what's wrong with android market? Dec 11 17:31:05 lol Dec 11 17:31:06 i don't use android Dec 11 17:31:12 ridden with viruses? Dec 11 17:31:14 trojans? Dec 11 17:31:15 ads? Dec 11 17:31:16 everyone with an approved account, btw Dec 11 17:31:24 fladnag900: not so much actually Dec 11 17:31:27 Jea but who would do such viral/bad/terrorist kindothing like puting realy bad apps inthere ...?? :) Dec 11 17:31:45 fladnag900: fennec can come in handy for pages that dont load properly in microb, but that's about all Dec 11 17:31:58 apart from that, it's just heavier Dec 11 17:32:04 does anyone here use python3.4 in maemo? Dec 11 17:32:05 and less ... ergonomic, somehow Dec 11 17:32:19 I'd like to install it but it's from extras-devel, lol Dec 11 17:32:21 Okk Dec 11 17:32:50 pkill9: dragons be there Dec 11 17:33:11 if you really want something from extra-devels I'd suggest adding -devel and setup apt-pinning Dec 11 17:33:29 pkill9: remember its not really tested Dec 11 17:33:35 ok Dec 11 17:33:44 I doubt i'll bother with it tbh Dec 11 17:33:48 so that you'd only fetch something from -devel if it doesn't exist in other repositories Dec 11 17:34:08 if you know app author, its quite safe to have latest version Dec 11 17:34:12 ok Dec 11 17:34:28 but treat it as unstable/testing Dec 11 17:34:37 Iremember alongtime ago inagalaxy... Onmy palm-tungsten-t3 orwasit5 ...i did use UDMH quite alot .. ;) Iwasthinking is there something like that for n900/maemo ... To overcome ram-shortage ?? Dec 11 17:34:48 does anyone here use python3.4 on maemo? Dec 11 17:35:14 pkill9: your best bet is to read about it on t.m.o Dec 11 17:35:30 there is a chance that python3.4 was discussed Dec 11 17:35:34 what's t.m.o? Dec 11 17:35:39 talk.maemo.org Dec 11 17:35:41 ah Dec 11 17:36:06 Udmh= ultra dynamic memory heap ...sortof using flash for sortof extra ram .. Dec 11 17:36:12 so does stuff actually get moved to the extra-testing and extra repoes? Dec 11 17:36:17 yes Dec 11 17:36:21 cool Dec 11 17:36:26 glad it's still active Dec 11 17:36:29 uploaders can promote packages to testing Dec 11 17:36:33 fladnag900: swap, basically ... and n900 already makes use of swap Dec 11 17:36:56 if things are stable enough (gets enough votes) author can promote package again to extras Dec 11 17:37:35 Can the swap be COMPLETLY moved to a microsdcard ? Dec 11 17:37:46 fladnag900: bad idea Dec 11 17:37:53 slow and will break Dec 11 17:38:03 :) ... :( Dec 11 17:38:04 what is internal memory using Dec 11 17:38:06 not that slow with the proper sd card actually Dec 11 17:38:17 is that flash too? Dec 11 17:38:24 people reported it being fine Dec 11 17:38:29 CatButts: eMMC Dec 11 17:38:34 ;) ...butwill brake ?? :( ? Dec 11 17:38:45 Jeah ? Dec 11 17:38:50 Sori Dec 11 17:38:58 :) Dec 11 17:39:04 if you maje a separate partition, you can try Dec 11 17:39:05 >The term eMMC is short for "embedded Multi-Media Controller" and refers to a package consisting of both flash memory and a flash memory controller integrated on the same silicon die. Dec 11 17:39:10 oh, so it IS flash Dec 11 17:39:18 CatButts: indeed Dec 11 17:39:20 and subjected to same write issues Dec 11 17:39:23 yup Dec 11 17:39:41 CatButts: now ask him what brand/model sd card he has Dec 11 17:39:51 why? Dec 11 17:39:57 if its some fake/noname? Dec 11 17:39:59 I dunno shiat about brands Dec 11 17:40:00 slow. Dec 11 17:40:10 but yes, that is wise to ask Dec 11 17:40:14 and prone to failures Dec 11 17:40:55 I actually had strange hang/reboot issues when using swap on microsd, and eventually moved back to swap on eMMC. but other people reported it works Dec 11 17:41:05 and emmc in n900 is good quality Dec 11 17:41:25 Hmmmmm :) Dec 11 17:41:56 N900 is GOODQUALITY Dec 11 17:41:56 ;) Dec 11 17:42:05 yes, nokia Dec 11 17:42:08 old nokia Dec 11 17:42:28 Jeah Dec 11 17:42:37 Deadnokia?? Dec 11 17:42:39 :D Dec 11 17:42:43 Sori Dec 11 17:42:47 :) Dec 11 17:48:28 i cannot install uboot with powerkernel ...itdoes not say why ...what info from where do ihave totell you anyone here who has the knowledgde doc orsomeone please Dec 11 17:49:21 Icant just flash becouse allmy contacts and telephoestuff Dec 11 17:49:57 Or wasthere away to leave thispart ofthe memory inpeace ? Dec 11 17:52:08 :( Dec 11 17:57:06 Buhuuu Dec 11 17:57:17 :( Dec 11 18:00:26 there should be a TMO thread about howto install uboot ... or a wiki page Dec 11 18:00:32 or both Dec 11 18:05:44 Thankyou but the realproblem ihave ithink is that a can not install it becouse some conflict ..i deinstalled what i can tohelp ..there was backup and bootmenu and ihthink some powerkernel installed but not loadet ..shit :P HEELP :) Dec 11 18:06:38 who here uses nokia n900? Dec 11 18:06:43 Ilove my n900's butheykilltime Dec 11 18:06:52 XD Dec 11 18:06:53 pkill9: almost everyone Dec 11 18:07:16 XD ihave 3 Dec 11 18:07:18 what is recommended to make the software great? Dec 11 18:07:21 like Dec 11 18:07:28 Inaweek or2 ... 4 Dec 11 18:07:30 I heard of CMMS Dec 11 18:07:51 is there a guide on making it bleeding edge? Dec 11 18:07:56 pkill9: [autopromotion] oscp Dec 11 18:08:05 you dont want it particularely "bleeding edge" Dec 11 18:08:28 but there are a few pages/threads about the "best setup"/best apps Dec 11 18:08:40 pkill9: 2 things kill the idea, 1/ only 256MB of mem (and most of it is eaten by default maemo), 2/ old kernel/libs Dec 11 18:08:52 ah Dec 11 18:08:54 but other than that, its linux Dec 11 18:09:03 you can do anything you can do in linux Dec 11 18:09:20 (hardware specs is the limit) Dec 11 18:10:06 why can't kernel/libs be updated? Dec 11 18:10:19 i'm guessing closed source Dec 11 18:10:23 because blobs, but local heros are working on it Dec 11 18:10:36 yay! Dec 11 18:10:51 where can i find out the progress made on these things? Dec 11 18:10:53 you can join the fight if you can Dec 11 18:11:06 Kotczarny please is there a way u could maybe do a remote conec orsomething to see what my problem is ??pleeeeeease Dec 11 18:11:09 :) Dec 11 18:11:12 Forreal Dec 11 18:12:03 Ihave 1mbit up and down Dec 11 18:12:05 fladnag900: told you my idea already Dec 11 18:12:15 Justreflash ? Dec 11 18:12:30 Than cssu andthen anything else ? Dec 11 18:12:45 that's a good starting point Dec 11 18:12:51 Isthere away that my phone contacts and sms surwive ? Dec 11 18:12:59 ~bm Dec 11 18:12:59 from memory, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install Dec 11 18:13:07 And WHAT iso should iuse Dec 11 18:13:13 though in your case it might be a problem Dec 11 18:13:46 What Dec 11 18:14:10 KotCzarny: is there somewhere I can see the progress made on the blobs? Dec 11 18:14:24 ~fpt Dec 11 18:14:33 ~listkeys blob Dec 11 18:14:35 Factoid search of 'blob' by key (9 of 26): i don't know why the buildroot blob ;; initial install of blob ;; unfortunately, afaik that blob ;; blob_ram_base ;; i checked it. it's not because that blob ;; so, the old blob can't run not the bcr's problem , ;; and put in a warning that #blob ;; blob binary image ;; reblob. Dec 11 18:14:44 ~listkeys closed Dec 11 18:14:45 Factoid search of 'closed' by key (12): security closed security environment ;; closed_packages #DEL# ;; #maemo closed ;; closedbsd ;; closed source ;; linux_not_closed ;; only reason to keep games closed source ;; security closed user group ;; closed #DEL# ;; #maemo closed_packages ;; toolbox _closedialog ;; toolbox _closedeskacc. Dec 11 18:14:53 ćlosed Dec 11 18:14:56 ~closed Dec 11 18:14:57 it has been said that closed is http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages or https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages, or http://elinux.org/N900 Dec 11 18:15:28 tyty Dec 11 18:16:58 Cotczarny please what doyoumean i mycase could be aproblem Dec 11 18:17:25 fladnag900: never used backup menu, but i think it integrates into boot process Dec 11 18:17:53 maybe someone else could confirm or deny that Dec 11 18:18:00 You mean for saving contacts or simply for savety Dec 11 18:18:26 for contacts you can simply export them to another phone Dec 11 18:18:38 sms db is in home directory Dec 11 18:18:43 I deinstalled it an hour ago becouse i wastrying oncemore to install uboot with powerkernel ... Dec 11 18:18:44 (contacts too) Dec 11 18:18:47 But ican reinstall Dec 11 18:19:18 Ok thanks Dec 11 18:19:26 :) puuh Dec 11 18:19:32 ... Dec 11 18:19:48 If i ever ged this towork .. :d Dec 11 18:21:32 But atleast i screwd the other display (that works) on to this n900 today ...for astart :D Dec 11 18:22:11 what do you mean by "screwed"? Dec 11 18:22:20 switched/fixed Dec 11 18:22:22 :) Dec 11 18:22:27 Jea Dec 11 18:22:31 ah Dec 11 18:22:49 Shit my english omg sori Dec 11 18:23:46 One full working n900 ..ATLEAST Dec 11 18:24:29 Hardware ...fullworking that is ... :d fromsoftware ..it is quite a way more togo :( :D Dec 11 18:24:45 is your usb ok or not then? Dec 11 18:24:54 Jeeeea Dec 11 18:24:57 This one works Dec 11 18:25:12 then backup what you need and reflash Dec 11 18:25:16 ..the thertwo notsomuch ;) Dec 11 18:25:36 Okkk Dec 11 18:25:37 :) Dec 11 18:25:59 Buhuu i am afraid :D Dec 11 18:26:45 Maybe i do something wrong ..what should i flahs ...there where somany iremember ...vanillas and such ... Dec 11 18:26:57 :) Dec 11 18:26:58 :( Dec 11 18:28:21 ...and with only internet on this n900 ihave to download it here and ... Dec 11 18:28:36 Jeah imlazy also ...ibetter getstarted Dec 11 18:29:37 Im just in fear of a reflash notworking and loosing this n900 also with my life as itis right now ...puuuh Dec 11 18:30:07 you prolly dont need to reflash to install uboot ... Dec 11 18:30:27 as long you dont break usb, its unkillable Dec 11 18:30:57 Ok thakns kotcarny ;) Dec 11 18:30:57 But Dec 11 18:31:14 whats a "prolly" :) Dec 11 18:31:14 ? Dec 11 18:31:57 english slang for "probably" Dec 11 18:34:24 Okk but i told cotczarny already (which is ithink the most nowledgable user inthis chat) of myproblems with powerkernels and hethinks its the bestidea te reflash and start fromscratch ... Dec 11 18:37:50 Cotczarny : what image should i flash in your opinion ...iremember ihave already downleadet evrythin there was a while ago if the reflash images have not changed somuch i could search for the hardisk thatcontains it and flash it .. Dec 11 18:37:58 ~flashing Dec 11 18:37:58 it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing Dec 11 18:38:32 and no, there are no new flash images since 2011 Dec 11 18:38:56 Ok thanksman :) youre thebest Dec 11 18:55:49 fladnag900: gandalf? from some shell provider? Dec 11 19:00:32 i think i remember this nick from long ago :-/ Dec 11 21:03:25 sicelo: shellium? Dec 11 21:07:49 possibly .. i was once there :) Dec 11 22:31:05 sicelo: there is a gandalf there, but I don't think it's the same one:) Dec 11 22:38:10 ah, haven't been with shellium for a while now (perhaps 5/6 years) Dec 11 22:47:54 oo Dec 11 22:47:59 did something happen? Dec 11 22:48:19 where? :-) Dec 11 22:48:23 at shellium :) Dec 11 22:48:43 DGandalf is still the same lovely one we had before, I am sure Dec 11 22:49:33 there was a time (4 to 5 years ago) where free accounts got closed .. donmt remember the reason. that was the last time i was with them Dec 11 22:50:46 then there was bombshellz, who possibly came out of shellium ... that din't last either Dec 11 22:51:22 i liked shellium tbh Dec 11 22:51:29 well, one of these reasons was me, so to speak Dec 11 22:51:43