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Jan 20 20:11:03 <NeKit> freemangordon, have a question about PulseAudio modules
Jan 20 20:11:33 <NeKit> are they required only on N900 or, in theory, also on ported devices?
Jan 20 20:37:53 <freemangordon> NeKit: depends. for phone calls - most probably not needed, depends on the modem
Jan 20 20:38:08 <freemangordon> unfortunately are needed for VOIP calls
Jan 20 20:39:18 <L29Ah> do we have at least one device killed by not using the filters?
Jan 20 20:39:23 <freemangordon> unless there is a FOSS replacement for stuff like AEC, AGC, etc
Jan 20 20:39:34 <freemangordon> L29Ah: it is not about xprot
Jan 20 20:39:43 <freemangordon> but audio processing algos
Jan 20 20:42:15 <freemangordon> stuff like noise cancellation, echo cancellation, auto gain, artificial noise generation and a pile of additional clever algos
Jan 20 20:43:35 <freemangordon> also, for voice you have to limit the bandwidth for voice spectrum only, so you can lower the network speed requirements
Jan 20 20:44:02 <freemangordon> (shenon theorem :) )
Jan 20 20:44:47 <L29Ah> i see
Jan 20 20:45:07 <freemangordon> keep in mind I am not an expert on the matter, so most probably I miss lots of stuff
Jan 20 21:21:42 <Juesto> in what language can one code for maemo?
Jan 20 21:27:35 <Sicelo> python, c, c++, etc.
Jan 20 21:28:07 <Juesto> exact not a few
Jan 20 21:28:25 <Sicelo> Google 
Jan 20 21:28:45 <Juesto> well, not all languages can be used for a single OS development
Jan 20 21:29:25 <Juesto> is maemo source code freely available? does it run on x86? 
Jan 20 21:29:55 <Sicelo> \o
Jan 20 21:30:22 <Juesto> what i can do as a alternative to xephyr for running maemo since i cant do shift+ctl combos because its used to grab/release input...?
Jan 20 21:30:32 * Juesto sighs
Jan 20 23:10:17 <L29Ah> most of the sources are open
Jan 20 23:10:31 <L29Ah> also you can assume s/maemo/debian/
Jan 20 23:11:03 <L29Ah> xpra?
Jan 20 23:14:23 <Juesto> ?
Jan 20 23:15:13 <Juesto> L29Ah: uh, how? xephyr is just a nested x server
Jan 20 23:15:20 <Juesto> xpra goes further
Jan 20 23:17:47 <sixwheeledbeast> GTK is the first language I think of for Maemo
Jan 20 23:20:12 <sixwheeledbeast> Well for GUI anyway
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