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Jan 28 03:01:40 <Juesto> hmm, check internet oksanaa ?
Jan 28 03:01:50 * Juesto sighs
Jan 28 06:59:16 <freemangordon> Juesto: you may try our upstream maemo porting branch then
Jan 28 06:59:25 <Juesto> Hmm, interesting
Jan 28 06:59:35 <Juesto> i like to test stuff so i guess it fits
Jan 28 06:59:39 <Juesto> i fit*
Jan 28 06:59:51 <freemangordon> but without having a real device, I doubt you'll get a corrrect impression
Jan 28 07:00:22 <freemangordon> Juesto: we have a WIP maemo rebased on top of devuan 
Jan 28 07:00:38 <freemangordon> but there is more ork to be done
Jan 28 07:00:40 <freemangordon> *work
Jan 28 07:01:05 <freemangordon> however, you can install devuan in a VM and install the packages on top
Jan 28 07:01:24 <Juesto> cool, i'll give that a shot and give feedback
Jan 28 07:01:26 <freemangordon> you'll have a booting hildon-desktop and hildon-status-menu
Jan 28 07:01:27 <Juesto> sounds good?
Jan 28 07:01:41 <freemangordon> nothing more than those 2 so far
Jan 28 07:02:10 <freemangordon> I am REing a closed blob needed for hildon-home (the one that takes care for desktop applets)
Jan 28 07:02:15 <Juesto> so yes, i think maemo is a nice mobile os and its good to have alternatives like this  :)
Jan 28 07:02:40 <freemangordon> Juesto: https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2/
Jan 28 07:02:58 <freemangordon> but be warned, it is far from being fully functional
Jan 28 07:03:06 <Juesto> lets go slow please, i'll begin by downloading devuan...
Jan 28 07:03:18 <Juesto> but good to know
Jan 28 07:03:36 <Juesto> no problem, about a real device i can see a bit over vnc....
Jan 28 07:03:48 <Juesto> just others experience helps then
Jan 28 07:04:31 <freemangordon> Juesto: sure, I'll help, maemo really needs more devs to work on rebasing over a modern distro
Jan 28 07:04:39 <Juesto> Funny enough i visited devuan website yesterday 
Jan 28 07:04:48 <Juesto> ...for the first time
Jan 28 07:04:52 <freemangordon> :)
Jan 28 07:05:16 <Juesto> better 32 bits?
Jan 28 07:05:31 <Juesto> 32 bits only*
Jan 28 07:05:31 <freemangordon> I tested 64bits only
Jan 28 07:05:41 <freemangordon> but it should work on 32bits as well
Jan 28 07:05:57 <Juesto> are they :i386 packages?
Jan 28 07:06:13 <freemangordon> there are no debs, you should dpkg-buildpackage them
Jan 28 07:06:26 <Juesto> hmm
Jan 28 07:06:45 <freemangordon> yep, source code only so far, hopefully there will be a repo soon
Jan 28 07:06:47 <Juesto> i'll try 32 bits because why not :)
Jan 28 07:06:52 <freemangordon> Wizzup: ^^^
Jan 28 07:06:57 <freemangordon> yep, why not
Jan 28 07:07:26 <Juesto> tbh, im not used to compile stuff from source on *nix
Jan 28 07:08:28 <freemangordon> Juesto: it is really easy
Jan 28 07:09:01 <Juesto> good to know
Jan 28 07:09:11 <freemangordon> building a debian package is a matter if "git checkout, cd $dir, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b"
Jan 28 07:09:28 <Juesto> nice
Jan 28 07:09:57 <freemangordon> if there are missing dependensies you're given a list and you install those with "apt-get install $missing_packages"
Jan 28 07:10:07 <freemangordon> that's it
Jan 28 07:10:49 <Juesto> also dont like gentoo because you have to work hardly with the os compiling everything btw
Jan 28 07:10:57 <Juesto> and arch because lack of installer
Jan 28 07:11:12 <freemangordon> never tried it, coming from windoze, I prefer ubuntu and debian :)
Jan 28 07:11:36 <Juesto> yep me too
Jan 28 07:11:39 <Juesto> mainly a windows user
Jan 28 07:11:53 * freemangordon not anymore
Jan 28 07:12:01 <Juesto> used *buntu and mac
Jan 28 07:12:08 <freemangordon> I replaced XP with ubuntu
Jan 28 07:12:15 <freemangordon> some 3 years ago
Jan 28 07:12:34 <Juesto> nice
Jan 28 07:12:42 <Juesto> whats your time zone btw?
Jan 28 07:12:48 <freemangordon> gmt+2
Jan 28 07:13:04 <Juesto> country?
Jan 28 07:13:08 <freemangordon> bulgaria
Jan 28 07:13:08 <Juesto> gmt -3 and argentina here
Jan 28 07:13:26 <freemangordon> not that bad, 5 hours only
Jan 28 07:13:32 <Juesto> great to know, good morning to you
Jan 28 07:13:37 <freemangordon> thanks
Jan 28 07:13:58 <Juesto> im kind of "living" aussie time lately
Jan 28 07:14:38 <freemangordon> Juesto: BTW, you may want to check videos on http://46.249.74.23/allwinner/
Jan 28 07:14:59 <Juesto> anyways, for anything gui np launching a listen for me if needed?
Jan 28 07:15:00 <freemangordon> this is maemo gtk3 port (WIP) working on some cheapo chinese allwinner tablet
Jan 28 07:15:10 <Juesto> wow awesome
Jan 28 07:15:43 <freemangordon> Juesto: not sure I inderstood your question, however, if you have problems feel free to ping and ask me
Jan 28 07:15:57 <freemangordon> *understood
Jan 28 07:16:35 <Juesto> if something gui-wise is needed to show because of a bug of whatever, dont mind launching a vnc server thats connects to my listen viewer?
Jan 28 07:17:14 <freemangordon> there is no much gui to see so far, unfortunately
Jan 28 07:17:24 <Juesto> i meant something from maemo itself
Jan 28 07:17:30 <freemangordon> yep, got it
Jan 28 07:17:42 <Juesto> cool :)
Jan 28 07:17:59 <freemangordon> toldya, this is still WIP, there are no usable (maemo) applications so far
Jan 28 07:18:24 <freemangordon> ofc you can start whatever application from devuan, but it won;t be "hildonized"
Jan 28 07:18:57 <Juesto> hehe
Jan 28 07:18:59 <Juesto> :)
Jan 28 07:19:11 <Juesto> well, then why not trying out apps from maemo repo? ;p
Jan 28 07:19:22 <freemangordon> because they are armel ;)
Jan 28 07:19:27 <Juesto> i mean, the nokia sdk... well
Jan 28 07:19:42 <Juesto> some apps work like gnome policy editor
Jan 28 07:20:07 <freemangordon> the same, they have dependencies to maemo packages so far not ported
Jan 28 07:20:33 <Juesto> interesting, i could run stuff
Jan 28 07:20:35 <freemangordon> remember, WIP :)
Jan 28 07:20:39 <Juesto> and some skins worked too but buggy
Jan 28 07:20:41 <Juesto> lol
Jan 28 07:21:01 <freemangordon> Juesto: also, you'll have to install some n900 theme from maemo repos
Jan 28 07:21:05 <Juesto> and some basic deps like hildon python werent available
Jan 28 07:21:15 <freemangordon> and copy backgrounds from n900 device itself
Jan 28 07:21:20 <Juesto> unlike the sdk the default one isnt shipped?
Jan 28 07:21:24 <Juesto> Meh
Jan 28 07:21:31 <freemangordon> no idea how you'll get access to one :)
Jan 28 07:21:34 <Juesto> I guess i could get a copy of some n900-only stuff
Jan 28 07:21:45 <freemangordon> sure, this is the right channel
Jan 28 07:21:47 <freemangordon> :)
Jan 28 07:22:20 * freemangordon is back to REing of osso-bookmarks-engine
Jan 28 07:58:21 <Juesto> is the kernel selection important ?
Jan 28 07:58:45 <Juesto> freemangordon: ^
Jan 28 08:00:42 <freemangordon> Juesto: shouldn;t be, my VM is with 3.16.0-4-amd64, default that comes with the distro
Jan 28 08:01:55 <Juesto> and the drivers one?
Jan 28 08:02:15 <freemangordon> for the VM? I installed nothing on top
Jan 28 08:02:18 <Juesto> oh and im using the textual installer because i find the gui annoying
Jan 28 08:02:25 <Juesto> i mean, generic vs targeted drivers
Jan 28 08:02:25 <freemangordon> should be ok
Jan 28 08:02:31 <Juesto> nvm, im running expert installer :D
Jan 28 08:02:32 <freemangordon> generic
Jan 28 08:02:50 <freemangordon> actually you need only shell and a working network connection
Jan 28 08:02:55 <freemangordon> to start
Jan 28 08:03:09 <Juesto> Then i should have used the net install
Jan 28 08:03:11 <Juesto> lol
Jan 28 08:03:21 <freemangordon> you'll apt-get install git, debhelper etc later with apt-get
Jan 28 08:03:22 <Juesto> this is the cd version
Jan 28 08:03:35 <freemangordon> I used cd version
Jan 28 08:03:45 <freemangordon> but choose to not install any DE, IIRC
Jan 28 08:03:58 <Juesto> neither x?
Jan 28 08:04:02 <freemangordon> yep
Jan 28 08:04:10 <jonwil> hi
Jan 28 08:04:11 <freemangordon> I installed it later
Jan 28 08:04:14 <Juesto> lol i prefer xfce :)
Jan 28 08:04:17 <freemangordon> jonwil: hi
Jan 28 08:04:30 <Juesto> hi there
Jan 28 08:04:35 <freemangordon> jonwil: wanna help https://github.com/community-ssu/osso-bookmark-engine/tree/master/src ?
Jan 28 08:04:38 <freemangordon> :p
Jan 28 08:04:59 <jonwil> Any particular reason to clone the bookmark code? :)
Jan 28 08:05:09 <freemangordon> jonwil: lots of
Jan 28 08:05:28 <Juesto> proprietary mainly
Jan 28 08:05:49 <freemangordon> jonwil: it is needed by hildon-home. and is the ugliest and the bugiest code I've ever seen
Jan 28 08:05:57 <jonwil> ok
Jan 28 08:06:04 <Juesto> freemangordon: that server is yours? the 46 one 
Jan 28 08:06:09 <freemangordon> jonwil: and I am ~100%sure it is the reason for memleaks in hildon-home
Jan 28 08:06:21 <jonwil> sounds good then
Jan 28 08:06:25 <freemangordon> Juesto: well, not server, my home PC is that
Jan 28 08:06:39 <Juesto> >apache server :P
Jan 28 08:07:27 <freemangordon> yes, my PC
Jan 28 08:08:51 <freemangordon> jonwil: if you look at the original code, you'll feel a urgent need to puke, honestly, it is beyond any imagination. Wanna IDA projects?
Jan 28 08:09:15 <Juesto> make me
Jan 28 08:09:18 <jonwil> I got other things to do right now so I dont think I can help with the bookmark code
Jan 28 08:09:22 <freemangordon> ok
Jan 28 08:09:39 <freemangordon> Juesto: hmm?
Jan 28 08:09:50 * Juesto wants to look at the code :p
Jan 28 08:10:10 <Juesto> i guess i am just curious
Jan 28 08:10:23 <Juesto> ...too curious
Jan 28 08:11:33 <freemangordon> Juesto: a small example https://pastehistory.com/paste/_9GJdS9yxam6
Jan 28 08:11:59 <freemangordon> it is like that all over the place
Jan 28 08:12:33 <Juesto> Definitely... a bit too much of the same thing :D
Jan 28 08:12:50 <Juesto> too much if, can be cleaner
Jan 28 08:13:09 <Juesto> And i guess i'll register on maemo.org
Jan 28 08:13:12 <freemangordon> no, the problem is - what will happen if there is no "//" in the parameter string
Jan 28 08:13:19 <freemangordon> ?
Jan 28 08:13:22 <Juesto> o_O
Jan 28 08:13:31 <jonwil> Are there any other libraries used by hildon-* that aren't yet cloned or open?
Jan 28 08:13:38 <freemangordon> dunno
Jan 28 08:13:54 <Juesto> yeah i dont write code but im geeky enough to understand with some explanation... ;)
Jan 28 08:14:04 <Juesto> Nevermind
Jan 28 08:14:17 <freemangordon> I hit that one when I tried to compile hildon-home in 64bit devuan VM
Jan 28 08:14:35 <Juesto> hmm
Jan 28 08:14:48 <Juesto> definitely messy things if no comments :p
Jan 28 08:15:03 <freemangordon> Juesto: this is IDA re-ed code, no commnts ofc
Jan 28 08:15:18 <freemangordon> however
Jan 28 08:15:38 <Juesto> hehe
Jan 28 08:16:35 <Juesto> registered to garage
Jan 28 08:18:04 <Juesto> WTF tasksel failed
Jan 28 08:19:03 <Juesto> yeah apparently selecting more than one DE causes it to fail
Jan 28 08:20:13 <Juesto> how long until garage and main site user sync?
Jan 28 08:21:05 <freemangordon> no idea
Jan 28 08:21:23 <freemangordon> also, you may need admin approval, can;t remember
Jan 28 08:24:47 <Juesto> lol how do i start network
Jan 28 08:24:56 <Juesto> i should join #devuan or ##linux
Jan 28 09:02:29 <jonwil> Spotted a few libraries used by hildon-* that aren't FOSS yet
Jan 28 09:02:41 <jonwil> hildon-home needs osso-bookmark-engine of course
Jan 28 09:02:49 <jonwil> hildon-thumbnail needs libplayback
Jan 28 09:03:01 <jonwil> hildon-control-panel needs libcodelockui (which is partially cloned but not finished yet)
Jan 28 09:03:17 <jonwil> and hildon-desktop needs libcail (whatever that is)
Jan 28 09:04:22 <jonwil> going off http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages in terms of whats still closed and uncloned
Jan 28 09:09:37 <ff_> LjL: "make me a program to automatically IR blast a volume lowering command to the TV when the microphone registers excess loudness" - the simplest/fastest way I see is: for monitoring level loudness "babyphone" in which setting file specify command to execute: "xdotool click 1" which send click mouse to "pierogi", done
Jan 28 09:10:21 <Juesto> looks like libcali is something similar to pango or those libs :)
Jan 28 09:13:30 <ff_> for proper way I know how to monitor loudness in python, but not how to send some IR
Jan 28 09:14:29 <Juesto> Should i log out form garage?
Jan 28 09:14:36 <Juesto> i am still unable to login to maemo.org
Jan 28 15:28:53 * LjL will do ff_'s idea :)
Jan 28 15:56:09 <bit> hello
Jan 28 15:57:52 <Guest64459> could someone tell me why the whole PIA VPN Network is on the forums blocklist? I can't join the forum this way :-(
Jan 28 16:00:08 <sixwheeledbeast> The IP must be on a forum spam list somewhere
Jan 28 16:00:32 <sixwheeledbeast> ~unbanip
Jan 28 16:00:33 <infobot> well, unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here
Jan 28 16:01:10 <KotCzarny> https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/179.43.155.98
Jan 28 16:01:14 <KotCzarny> some script kiddies
Jan 28 16:02:20 <KotCzarny> https://stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/179.43.155.98
Jan 28 16:02:28 <KotCzarny> and either open proxy or spammers
Jan 28 16:04:53 <KotCzarny> https://cleantalk.org/blacklists/179.43.155.98
Jan 28 16:05:09 <KotCzarny> yup, definitely spammers using that service
Jan 28 16:07:31 <Guest64459> that's very sad :-( why they destroy the internet this way. I don't like script skiddies!
Jan 28 16:07:48 <KotCzarny> because they can
Jan 28 16:08:07 <KotCzarny> think of kids hurting themselves and the world around out of boredom
Jan 28 16:09:53 <Guest64459> so nothing to do then... it should be the parents job to tell them how the internet works...
Jan 28 16:10:11 <KotCzarny> parents are big kids too
Jan 28 16:10:33 <KotCzarny> do what sixwheeledbeast have said
Jan 28 16:10:39 <Guest64459> that's right, but they should know how to behave.
Jan 28 16:10:55 <Guest64459> thx for your help, I will do :-)
Jan 28 16:11:17 <Guest64459> bb
Jan 28 16:12:42 <Guest64459> ~unbanip
Jan 28 16:12:42 <infobot> [unbanip] please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here
Jan 28 19:58:04 <Juesto> Should i log out from garage.maemo.org to be able to login in maemo.org ?
Jan 28 19:58:08 <Juesto> i still cant login
Jan 28 19:58:15 <Juesto> created account yesterday
Jan 28 20:00:36 <Juesto> who i should ping for website issues?
Jan 28 20:19:30 <sixwheeledbeast> you can be logged into both
Jan 28 20:26:46 <Juesto> sixwheeledbeast: well, its not working, login is failing
Jan 28 20:32:42 <sixwheeledbeast> :shrug: you are trying to log into m.o and not t.m.o?
Jan 28 20:49:58 <Juesto> sixwheeledbeast: I logged to garage but i cant login to maemo.org
Jan 28 20:50:04 <Juesto> tmo?
Jan 28 20:52:32 <Juesto> ???
Jan 28 21:01:39 <sixwheeledbeast> ~tmo
Jan 28 21:01:39 <infobot> somebody said tmo was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen.
Jan 28 21:01:59 <Juesto> :D
Jan 28 21:02:01 <sixwheeledbeast> maemo.org and talk.maemo.org have seperate logins IIRC
Jan 28 21:02:08 <Juesto> And garage?
Jan 28 21:02:13 <Juesto> so what do i do?
Jan 28 21:02:29 <sixwheeledbeast> This is from the forum being owned by reggie as ITT
Jan 28 21:03:10 <Juesto> hm...
Jan 28 21:03:32 <Juesto> ~itt
Jan 28 21:03:33 <infobot> well, itt is the forums on internettablettalk.com ( http://internettablettalk.com/forums )
Jan 28 21:03:59 <Juesto> what do i do then?
Jan 28 21:04:48 <bencoh> you have to register separately on maemo.org and tmo, as far as I remember
Jan 28 21:05:04 <bencoh> (although I kinda recall there is a way to link accounts?)
Jan 28 21:05:11 <Juesto> bencoh: maemo.org redirects to garage
Jan 28 21:05:16 <Juesto> the register page
Jan 28 21:05:29 <Juesto> i am registered on garage but i am unable to login on maemo.org
Jan 28 21:05:49 <bencoh> hmm
Jan 28 21:05:59 <Juesto> registered yesterday also
Jan 28 21:06:12 <Juesto> i read the new users note but it been a day and nothing
Jan 28 21:06:54 <bencoh> what about new users note?
Jan 28 21:07:39 <Juesto> Note to new users
Jan 28 21:07:40 <Juesto> If you just created your account in garage.maemo.org, try again in a few minutes.Thank you.
Jan 28 21:07:45 <Juesto> yet i cant login
Jan 28 21:08:07 <bencoh> ah
Jan 28 21:08:14 <Juesto> >Also note that while garage has case-insensitive usernames, here the usernames are case-sensitive, try using all lowercase.< i am trying fully lowercase and its not working
Jan 28 21:08:16 <bencoh> well ..
Jan 28 21:08:23 <bencoh> ~techstaff
Jan 28 21:08:23 <infobot> well, techstaff is techstaff(AT)maemo.org - the folks that keep your maemo infra running. Devotion to Duty http://xkcd.com/705/
Jan 28 21:08:49 <bencoh> I dont really remember the register process, so not sure what's normal and what's not
Jan 28 21:10:04 <Juesto> which of  techstaff is here...?
Jan 28 21:10:19 * Juesto prefers chatting
Jan 28 21:10:37 <bencoh> iirc xes is ... but he doesn't seem to be around for some reason
Jan 28 21:11:01 <Juesto> :(
Jan 28 21:19:46 <sixwheeledbeast> you can link garage and m.o but t.m.o was seperate IIRC
Jan 28 21:20:22 <sixwheeledbeast> ~midgard
Jan 28 21:20:22 <infobot> A PHP Application Server Suite - Web building with Web-based tools. URL: http://www.midgard-project.org/
Jan 28 21:37:59 <Oksanaa> osso-mmc-mount calls mmc-mount, and mmc-mount calls fsck -a, and fsck -a calls fsck.vfat -a, right? For MyDocs check on startup. What I want to know, is: wouldn't w flag help fsck to avoid being repeated on each startup?
Jan 28 21:39:28 <Oksanaa> f and t flags also sound useful, but may take more time.
Jan 28 21:45:48 <Sicelo> i would just fix the FS from a pc ... simpler, quicker, more reliable, and guaranteed
Jan 28 21:46:03 <Sicelo> just this morning i had to do that
Jan 28 21:47:23 <Oksanaa> This would require working microUSB port. Which I do not have.
Jan 28 21:48:05 <Sicelo> ah
Jan 28 21:48:26 <Oksanaa> Anyway, which flags do you recommend for fsck?
Jan 28 21:51:15 <Juesto> oksanaa: you take out the sd and put it in pc
Jan 28 21:52:35 <Juesto> windows laptop reccommended since 1) usually sd readers are built in laptops and linux has issues with them, there seem some bugs with it
Jan 28 21:52:39 <Oksanaa> No SD card. Internal eMMC.
Jan 28 21:53:06 <Juesto> ouch
Jan 28 21:55:52 <Oksanaa> FATs differ but appear to be intact. Using first FAT. Cluster problems, truncating approximately a dozen of different files.
Jan 28 21:57:18 <bencoh> (completely unrelated, but musikloud2 is actually quite a nice music player - never noticed because I'm not a soundcloud user, neither am I a fan of the paradigm)
Jan 28 21:59:25 <Oksanaa> Similar. Not a soundcloud user, myself. Anybody has a documentation how rtcom-messaging-ui works? All I know is that its js sends out alert("something"); messages which cause various actions outside html+js+css world.
Jan 28 22:00:47 <bencoh> Oksanaa: it runs a broswer instance
Jan 28 22:00:55 <bencoh> (and thus needs browserd)
Jan 28 22:00:58 <bencoh> apart from that.... no idea
Jan 28 22:01:17 <Oksanaa> Would like to know what catches these alerts. Because there is a bug or two, I would say. For example, while one-to-one IMs do have avatars, multiple-people Chats have just default grey avatars.
Jan 28 22:02:57 <bencoh> Oksanaa: tbh I sometime think I'd love a rtcom-messaging-ui replacement
Jan 28 22:03:07 <bencoh> with a native (gtk) UI instead of this web thing
Jan 28 22:03:42 <Oksanaa> Documenting how rtcom-messaging-ui currently works would be a neat step towards putting in an open-source replacement. Gry agrees that GTK-ish UI would be better than web thing.
Jan 28 22:04:40 <Juesto> hm
Jan 28 22:05:08 <Juesto> should i email tech staff about login issue?
Jan 28 22:05:22 <Oksanaa> Which login issue?
Jan 28 22:05:46 <Juesto> oksanaa, yesterday i've registered to garage and i cant login to maemo.org still
Jan 28 22:06:07 <Oksanaa> Have you received confirmation email or anything? 
Jan 28 22:06:25 <Juesto> Yes i did validate my email
Jan 28 22:07:15 <Oksanaa> Match case applies to login. For example, my login is "wikiwide" for some reason, not "Wikiwide".
Jan 28 22:07:48 <Juesto> yes, i used all lower case and its still not working, i've read the note for new users that appears on a failed login...
Jan 28 22:09:41 <Oksanaa> Feel free to email techstaff for assistance.
Jan 28 22:10:23 * Juesto prefers chat
Jan 28 22:10:41 <Juesto> apparently xes is not here for some reason
Jan 28 22:12:33 <Oksanaa> Well, warfare is here, no idea who of them knows more about failed login of new garage user at maemo.org. Anyway, xes is probably sleeping, he was last seen 8h ago, according to NickServ.
Jan 28 22:13:35 <Juesto> thanks, i'll await for an answer then
Jan 28 22:26:18 <Oksanaa> I wish I knew what maemo launcher is. Anyway, rtcom-messaging-ui includes two very-very simple service files, one a little longer (but also simple) client file, html and smilies, and finally, desktop file and binaries; one of them .launch.
Jan 28 22:30:35 <Juesto> isnt maemo launcher hildon desktop  or something?
Jan 28 22:32:24 <Oksanaa> Different things. Maemo launcher is connected with how I see, in addition to /usr/bin/X, also /usr/bin/X.launch. And while X is a dummy link to maemo launcher, X.launch is the real file.
Jan 28 22:32:49 <Oksanaa> I imagine it's to avoid having two instances of the same program?
Jan 28 22:36:57 <Juesto> could be
Jan 28 22:41:39 <Oksanaa> Going into reboot. Will see whether manual fsck -aw was good enough to fix the eMMC.
Jan 28 22:47:02 <Oksanaa> Unable to create unique name, fsck says... Whatever that means.
Jan 28 22:52:01 <Oksanaa> 7min already. At least, it speaks of none of these cluster problems.
Jan 28 22:57:19 <bencoh> Vajb: the working volume keys when playing music with OMP/mediplayer is due to mafw-gst-renderer (periodically) requesting com.nokia.mce.request.req_keypad_off_pause when playing music
Jan 28 22:58:18 <bencoh> "Prevent keypad off - On this request mce keeps keypad unblocked next 60 seconds" // mce/dbus-name.h
Jan 28 22:59:38 <Oksanaa> So it's whole keypad being kept awake just because music is playing?.. Fun. | Agree that bookmark engine is buggy. It swallowed (lost?) whole folders of bookmarks on occasions.
Jan 28 23:00:04 <bencoh> now I'd like to know why playback stops for a few seconds when pressing power key, except for mafw-gst-renderer-based players
Jan 28 23:02:37 <bencoh> (although right now I'll actually just head to bed)
Jan 28 23:03:10 <Oksanaa> Power key is related to system-ui
Jan 28 23:03:21 <bencoh> yeah
Jan 28 23:03:44 <bencoh> but I didn't find any systemui reference in mafw
Jan 28 23:03:52 <bencoh> at least in mafw-gst-renderer
Jan 28 23:07:16 <Oksanaa> No idea. | Interesting: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mafweqrenderer/ | Actually, fsck took only 1min this time, I just didn't notice it because was staring at tail -f /var/log/fsck.log
Jan 28 23:09:18 <Juesto> Sounds you're good now, oksana :)
Jan 28 23:09:22 <Juesto> oksanaa ^
Jan 28 23:38:06 <Juesto> freemangordon: what do i download? devuan is working :)
Jan 29 00:56:57 <Oksanaa> Funny, reading rtcom-messaging-ui. There is partially implemented functionality of changing themes. No visible buttons to do it.
Jan 29 00:58:56 <Juesto> :D
Jan 29 00:59:10 <Juesto> hidden funcionality \o/
Jan 29 01:41:12 <Juesto> hello xes, i am unable to login onto maemo.org after registering on garage and validating email
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