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Feb 07 07:11:01 <Vajb> tried to make garage account yesterday, but it failed. So much for the voting of packages...
Feb 07 07:11:35 <Vajb> i got link and when i set my details it just blurbed "access denied"
Feb 07 07:11:57 <freemangordon> bencoh: hmm, what is pull address for that repo?
Feb 07 07:12:01 <KotCzarny> i think garage accounts have to be confirmed by admin
Feb 07 07:12:10 <KotCzarny> ~garage
Feb 07 07:12:14 <KotCzarny> hrm.
Feb 07 07:14:16 <freemangordon> bencoh: git remote add bencoh http://git.notk.org/bencoh/maemo/osso-bookmark-engine.git and then git pull --rebase bencoh master results in:
Feb 07 07:14:16 <freemangordon> fatal: repository 'http://git.notk.org/bencoh/maemo/osso-bookmark-engine.git/' not found
Feb 07 07:14:16 <Vajb> well it said that i have link and when i click and put my username and pass it is activated
Feb 07 07:21:30 <Juesto> KotCzarny: admin approval is for packages not account validation btw
Feb 07 07:21:56 <Juesto> freemangordon: tried browsing it?
Feb 07 07:22:23 <Juesto> or git://
Feb 07 07:25:26 <freemangordon> Juesto: git:// doesnt work
Feb 07 07:25:51 <freemangordon> and yes, I tried browsing it, but that doesn't help muc for doing pull
Feb 07 07:25:56 <freemangordon> *much
Feb 07 07:27:35 <Juesto> try downloading it the entire thing then rename to .git ?
Feb 07 07:28:03 <KotCzarny> doesnt git work with http:// too?
Feb 07 07:28:17 <Juesto> that link seems a empty repository
Feb 07 07:28:31 <Juesto> or not, i dont know
Feb 07 07:28:48 <Juesto> bencoh: what's your git config for your git repo?
Feb 07 07:29:05 <Juesto> .git/config
Feb 07 07:29:44 <KotCzarny> either he didnt setup git/repo properly or it was late
Feb 07 07:29:45 <KotCzarny> ;)
Feb 07 07:30:14 <KotCzarny> or his apache doesnt serve .git things
Feb 07 07:30:57 <KotCzarny> no .git dir
Feb 07 07:31:34 <Juesto> KotCzarny: the entire thing is the .git dir
Feb 07 07:32:26 <KotCzarny> right
Feb 07 07:32:35 <KotCzarny> so he copied wrong subdir
Feb 07 07:34:15 <Juesto> he has cgit
Feb 07 07:35:09 <Juesto> hmm freemangordon perhaps you're not specifying the branch you want?
Feb 07 07:35:27 <Juesto> cgit.notk.org/bencoh
Feb 07 07:35:39 <Juesto> seems its something where different people publish things
Feb 07 07:36:00 <bencoh> freemangordon: I probably forgot to configure it for http index update
Feb 07 07:36:20 <Juesto> hm
Feb 07 07:36:35 <Juesto> the others people stuff have the same problem, i think, not sure
Feb 07 07:36:56 <Juesto> or we dont know how that site works
Feb 07 07:38:21 <bencoh> it's my server.
Feb 07 07:38:30 <bencoh> 09:29 < KotCzarny> either he didnt setup git/repo properly or it was late
Feb 07 07:38:34 <bencoh> and KotCzarny is right
Feb 07 07:45:36 <bencoh> freemangordon: should work now, sorry about that
Feb 07 07:46:13 <bencoh> git update-server-info in bare repo, for the record.
Feb 07 07:47:26 <bencoh> and config it with receive.updateserverinfo = 1 for automatic update on push
Feb 07 08:35:50 <KotCzarny> montjoie: why so?
Feb 07 08:35:55 <KotCzarny> ECHAN. eh
Feb 07 10:39:54 <zGrr> moin ;)
Feb 07 14:37:25 <freemangordon> bencoh: yep, it is ok now
Feb 07 14:48:17 <sunshavi> +euid
Feb 07 15:19:42 <bencoh> freemangordon: :)
Feb 07 15:44:28 <Wizzup> Does anyone know if fennec is android only now? I know they dropped maemo a long time ago, but was hoping for non-maemo non-android builds..
Feb 07 15:44:37 <Wizzup> (to build it for devuan at some point, perhaps)
Feb 07 17:11:25 <Juesto> yes Wizzup
Feb 07 17:11:31 <Juesto> its also iOS iirc
Feb 07 17:11:42 <Juesto> perhaps Firefox OS too
Feb 07 17:11:46 <Juesto> idk about ubuntu touch
Feb 07 17:12:13 <Juesto> you can try building fennec tho
Feb 07 17:14:41 <NeKit> Juesto, Firefox OS is no more, and they dropped B2G code
Feb 07 17:27:41 <Juesto> o_O
Feb 07 17:27:51 <Juesto> yeah well, im outdated since im zlined in moznet
Feb 07 17:44:39 <DocScrutinizer05> Wizzup: fennec was worse than standard FF even at the time they made it genuinely for maemo
Feb 07 17:48:38 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer05: not touch wise
Feb 07 17:49:08 <bencoh> even touch wise it wasn't that good, but yeah
Feb 07 17:49:22 <Wizzup> at least it had recent code at the time :) 
Feb 07 17:49:42 <bencoh> more recent than microb you mean
Feb 07 17:50:37 <DocScrutinizer05> I think fennec was slower and iirc used _more_ RAM than FF
Feb 07 17:50:56 <Wizzup> bencoh: less exploitable
Feb 07 17:51:06 <DocScrutinizer05> don't know what's "touch wise"
Feb 07 17:51:09 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer05: I don't care about speed, at this point, microb cannot render any site that is useful for me
Feb 07 17:51:17 <Wizzup> (which is mostly mobile sites of public transport)
Feb 07 17:52:01 <DocScrutinizer05> aaah so you're after GUI / UX adaptions in fennec?
Feb 07 17:53:19 <Wizzup> yep
Feb 07 17:53:25 <Wizzup> might still be able to take old fennec and recent xul
Feb 07 18:03:41 <bencoh> Wizzup: tbh I' starting to think the best we could do regarding specific "mobile" websites is what cutetube does with *tube sites
Feb 07 18:04:11 <bencoh> parse html and render it in a non-expensive, native manner
Feb 07 18:04:46 <bencoh> since websites do break after a while if you stop upgrading browser anyway
Feb 07 18:05:12 <bencoh> so we'd at least have a decent user experience
Feb 07 18:05:31 <bencoh> Wizzup: btw some mobile website do work when chaning useragent
Feb 07 18:05:35 <bencoh> +s
Feb 07 18:09:54 <KotCzarny> bencoh: it's all and dandy if there was free, stable api 
Feb 07 18:10:03 <KotCzarny> but due to abusers there isnt
Feb 07 18:21:07 <Sicelo> examples of non-working mobile sites?
Feb 07 18:24:03 <Sicelo> i've used opera mobile, fennec, qml-browser .. and each time i come back to MicroB for sites that *I* use ... for me it works way better than the alternatives .. some sites need a lot of patience though
Feb 07 18:33:56 <bencoh> uber doesn't work with microb. but does work with one of the others iirc
Feb 07 18:34:36 <Wizzup> well, I don't care about uber :) 
Feb 07 18:36:21 <Sicelo> i don't have an uber account, but the home page is loading just fine (just taking forever) ... looks like it's not even mobile page
Feb 07 20:38:22 <xes> it's just me ..or nobody else noticed about this? http://talk.maemo.com/showpost.php?p=1522786&postcount=1717
Feb 07 20:41:55 <KotCzarny> xes: i use oscp for media ;)
Feb 07 20:49:58 <xes> KotCzarny: is it your default player?
Feb 07 20:51:32 <KotCzarny> havent gotten around to integrate it nicely, but it supports external commands from os
Feb 07 21:05:56 <xes> KotCzarny: well, let me say that a better integration and some new style for the ui would make it more usable and attractive
Feb 07 22:34:29 <DocScrutinizer05> hi xes! :-)
Feb 07 22:43:34 <xes> hi DocScrutinizer05!
Feb 07 23:44:39 <sixwheeledbeast> Can't say I have experienced that, but I stopped using my cron/alarmd web radio alarm clock a while back. 
Feb 08 02:12:01 <DocScrutinizer05> xes: what do you think about running a supl.maemo.org service?
Feb 08 02:20:58 <DocScrutinizer05> with a tad of fail2ban magic and the right authentication means I don't think there could be many performance problems. The database stuff needed (if any) seems pretty trivial, so is the max connection count and bandwidth need per client
Feb 08 02:22:22 <DocScrutinizer05> iirc we still have a idling dns VM, right?
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