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Feb 14 05:45:53 <brolin_empey> Is a vampire’s ship a blood vessel?
Feb 14 05:53:08 <KotCzarny> not if they are hungry
Feb 14 06:58:13 <brolin_empey> http://www.quakejs.com/play?set%20fs_game%20cpma&set%20mode_start%20FFA&set%20g_teamAutoJoin%201&map%20cpm1a
Feb 14 06:58:13 <brolin_empey> Awesome, it works for me this time:  I can run ioquake3, a source port of Quake III: (Team) Arena, in Firefox using WebGL. :-D
Feb 14 07:18:12 <DocScrutinizer05> screen or tmux?
Feb 14 07:21:12 <DocScrutinizer05> hmmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmux#Features
Feb 14 07:24:46 <joga> tmux is great with the window splits
Feb 14 07:26:12 <joga> I routinely have maybe 5-10 "virtual desktops" within it that are divided into some layout usually, then it's easy to go back to a certain project etc.
Feb 14 07:27:38 <joga> since I used to use screen for a long time before switching, I just had to rebind the c-b to c-a etc. :)
Feb 14 07:40:55 <DocScrutinizer05> OMG! mosh has dependency to libprotobuf8 - Protocol Buffers - Google's data interchange format
Feb 14 07:44:58 <bencoh> sowhat?
Feb 14 07:45:39 <KotCzarny> mosh is israeli invention too, while you are being paranoid
Feb 14 07:53:34 <bencoh> sowhat(bis)? ....
Feb 14 08:08:53 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: I simply get anaphylactic shock when I read "Google's data interchange format"
Feb 14 08:09:12 <DocScrutinizer05> silly, I know
Feb 14 08:10:49 <DocScrutinizer05> for all I could tell, XML for example could be the devil's own native format, doesn't mean it's bad per se. Just Google... it starts with "G" too ;-)
Feb 14 08:10:58 <DocScrutinizer05> like gnome
Feb 14 08:12:01 <bencoh> . . .
Feb 14 08:13:25 <KotCzarny> and... germany? ;)
Feb 14 08:27:52 <joga> xml obviously is favoured by the devil
Feb 14 08:40:33 <DocScrutinizer05> who cares?
Feb 14 08:41:07 <DocScrutinizer05> ASCII is favored by Bill Gates and Microsoft
Feb 14 08:42:00 <DocScrutinizer05> strawberries are favored by Tim Lynn
Feb 14 09:47:35 <vectis3> screen or tmux? There is also dvtm.
Feb 14 09:53:56 <joga> haven't tried that but seems like something I could use 
Feb 14 09:54:35 <joga> though would apparently need to use tmux with that 
Feb 14 09:54:45 <joga> or uh... not, nm
Feb 14 09:56:35 <FIQ> gystemd
Feb 14 10:26:24 <DocScrutinizer05> FIQ: :-D
Feb 14 10:27:23 <DocScrutinizer05> and gimp also needs a better name
Feb 14 10:36:49 <Maxdamantus> There was recently a possible exploit pointed out with screen.
Feb 14 10:37:46 <Maxdamantus> Since its multi-user mode or whatever depends on having the setuid or setgid bit set.
Feb 14 10:39:07 <Maxdamantus> could get it to create log files in arbitrary places using those privileges.
Feb 14 10:41:47 <Maxdamantus> tmux seems nicer imo
Feb 14 10:42:01 <Maxdamantus> it's more portable and the UI seems simpler.
Feb 14 10:42:11 * Maxdamantus tends to dislike GNU things.
Feb 14 10:43:31 <bencoh> Maxdamantus: is that a recent one?
Feb 14 10:43:46 <bencoh> I've always thought this +s thing with screen is silly
Feb 14 10:44:34 <Maxdamantus> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/screen-devel/2017-01/msg00025.html
Feb 14 10:45:09 <Maxdamantus> Yeah, I think it only affects some recent versions, and it's obviously been fixed in master since that discussion.
Feb 14 10:46:15 <Maxdamantus> and yeah, you can probably just unset the setuid/setgid bit if it's set, unless you actually rely on the multi-user feature.
Feb 14 10:46:29 <Maxdamantus> debian just has sgid by default iirc.
Feb 14 10:51:43 <bencoh> iirc it hasn't always been +s by default
Feb 14 10:51:51 <bencoh> I kinda remember enabling it once but I'm not sure
Feb 14 16:55:36 <brolin_empey> DocScrutinizer05: grep has an initial G too.
Feb 14 16:56:43 <brolin_empey> So does GNU, as you already noticed with your mention of (the) GIMP.
Feb 14 16:59:08 <brolin_empey> Incidentally: I still wonder why the tiles on the Start menu on Windows 10 always show me news in the UK when my location in Windows is set to Canada.  Maybe because I use English (UK) instead of English (US)?
Feb 14 17:01:45 <brolin_empey> Also the geolocation for my public/external IP address always correctly says that my IP address is in Canada, so Windows should be confident that I am always in Canada.  I have never visited the UK IRL.
Feb 14 17:02:09 <brolin_empey> public/external/routable address, whatever.
Feb 14 17:02:37 <brolin_empey> Or WAN address.
Feb 14 17:07:07 <brolin_empey> DocScrutinizer05: I guess you can use Pidgin because it is no longer named gaim? ;-)
Feb 14 17:28:09 <bencoh> huhu
Feb 14 17:28:33 <bencoh> brings me back yeaars ago :)
Feb 14 17:31:43 <Vajb> oh didn't know that..
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