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Apr 15 17:42:03 <kerio> yo DocScrutinizer05 
Apr 15 17:42:06 <kerio> how do i SIP on a computer
Apr 15 17:42:52 <KotCzarny> you use a sip client, dummy
Apr 15 17:44:01 <kerio> which one
Apr 15 17:54:31 <freemangordon> pidgin?
Apr 15 17:56:57 <kerio> oh goddammit how do i get the password back from zoiper
Apr 15 17:57:02 <kerio> it's stored in base64 in the xml file
Apr 15 17:57:06 <kerio> it was not base64
Apr 15 17:59:48 <KotCzarny> any of them?
Apr 15 17:59:55 <KotCzarny> win/lin?
Apr 15 18:00:08 <KotCzarny> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software#Clients
Apr 15 18:00:15 <KotCzarny> choose one
Apr 15 18:01:11 <KotCzarny> linphone seems one of the nice ones
Apr 15 18:01:38 <kerio> yeah but now my only copy of the plaintext password is stored in this program
Apr 15 18:01:54 <KotCzarny> sniff it?
Apr 15 18:02:50 <KotCzarny> http://shop.zoiper.com/password_recovery.php
Apr 15 18:03:27 <KotCzarny> hum, though its account pass, not sip one
Apr 15 18:04:37 <DocScrutinizer05> kerio: on maemo you simply create a SIP VoIP account in settings
Apr 15 18:05:11 <DocScrutinizer05> on generic linux I'm totally biased, so can't help but suggest twinklephone
Apr 15 18:05:47 <DocScrutinizer05> yes, it still exists, somebody ported it to rev1.9
Apr 15 18:06:26 <DocScrutinizer05> works best with ALSA though, PA is da shite, doesn't know how to flush buffers or sth
Apr 15 18:09:11 <DocScrutinizer05> I tested ekiga, kphone and linphone too, neither worked for me
Apr 15 18:09:18 <DocScrutinizer05> and sfl
Apr 15 18:10:19 <DocScrutinizer05> twinkle comes with CLI on top of the GUI, and with decent scripting via hooks
Apr 15 18:11:01 <DocScrutinizer05> both childs of my bitching and contribution
Apr 15 18:13:17 <DocScrutinizer05> and twinkle is made to be as platform agnostic as possible
Apr 15 18:13:24 <DocScrutinizer05> FWOW
Apr 15 18:13:33 <DocScrutinizer05> FWI*W
Apr 15 18:15:40 <DocScrutinizer05> you could say Michel deBoer only was interested in writing the core to verify his contributions to SIP RFC, so I defined a lot of the whole UI and API
Apr 15 18:16:35 <DocScrutinizer05> twinle been the de facto reference SIP implementation for basically all SIP providers, for several years and maybe still today
Apr 15 18:17:52 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.ixquick.com/do/search?q=Michel+deBoer+RFC
Apr 15 18:20:02 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.google.de/search?as_sitesearch=ietf.org&q=Michel+deBoer
Apr 15 18:23:43 <DocScrutinizer05> http://twinklephone.com/
Apr 15 18:58:05 <DocScrutinizer05> it even comes with a twinkle-console binary that has no GUI 'cruft' and thus is only half the size
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