**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 27 03:00:00 2017 Apr 27 08:47:06 sicelo: back with new version. Got some error in startup, but seems to work. Apr 27 08:47:42 sicelo: "can't locate Irssi.pm" no idea if that's relevant or not. Apr 27 10:31:09 Vajb: interesting. how to reproduce the problem? Apr 27 10:32:47 connecting successfully here Apr 27 10:33:28 you're loading a perl script? which one? Apr 27 10:44:07 yes by reading it more carefully it is caused by one of the scripts Apr 27 10:46:08 ok Apr 27 10:46:18 let me know what you find :-) Apr 27 10:46:38 or just buld it yourself ... the source is on github Apr 27 10:46:38 btw did backup, but wasn't needed. All of my settings were intact. Apr 27 10:46:52 awesome! Apr 27 10:49:02 i stick with ur builds, thx :) Apr 27 10:50:20 hehe Apr 27 10:50:41 i just hope we can get it in repos, then that would be awesome Apr 27 10:52:21 yes it would be more usefll Apr 27 10:52:35 tho it is easy to install for anyone Apr 27 10:52:41 already i mean Apr 27 11:10:33 hmm, the n900 media player doesn't do flac it seems. of course I find out after putting 2G of music on it -_- Apr 27 11:11:35 i think there is a plugin for that Apr 27 11:11:53 at least afair oksana was playing flacs with omp and some plugin Apr 27 11:12:03 you can also use some alternative player too ;) Apr 27 11:12:54 I like the default mediaplayer in general. the ui is great Apr 27 11:13:05 have to look for that plugin then .. Apr 27 11:13:13 try omp Apr 27 11:13:28 it's drop in replacement for stock player, with similar ui Apr 27 11:14:29 mpd also does flac Apr 27 11:14:31 ok, thnx Apr 27 11:14:38 * Maxdamantus uses flac with mpd on N900 Apr 27 11:14:50 there is mpd in n900? Apr 27 11:14:59 with ncmpcpp? ;) Apr 27 11:15:10 my gentoon900 has it Apr 27 11:15:13 Dunno. I just run it in a Debian chroot. Apr 27 11:15:38 i just use my own player, works like i want it to work Apr 27 11:15:44 Debian has ncmpc, but it seems to often misbehave with osso-xterm Apr 27 11:15:46 oh, yeah I want neither gentoo nor chroot :p Apr 27 11:15:51 haven't tried ncmpcpp Apr 27 11:16:03 * Maxdamantus really needs to switch away from osso-xterm Apr 27 11:16:09 :) Apr 27 11:16:25 * Maxdamantus wants to be able to use vim without the terminal crashing every 30 seconds Apr 27 11:18:17 ah, there's the extra decoder package Apr 27 11:18:42 Maxdamantus: how does it crash? Apr 27 11:18:49 I'll try that first Apr 27 11:19:05 Maxdamantus: yup, you definitely should Apr 27 11:19:30 Maxdamantus: (plain old) xterm is great on n900 btw, assuming you properly configured rx-51 to remap useful keys Apr 27 11:19:33 Vajb: repos would also help with trust Apr 27 11:20:03 as for mpd we should try and add it to extras, someday Apr 27 11:20:56 Maxdamantus: i'm also interested to know how vim crashes osso-xterm. i use it without issue here Apr 27 11:23:37 hmm, how do you reconfigure a package? I think I missed some license agreement Apr 27 11:23:55 presed the tochscreen too fast and didn't check a box Apr 27 11:24:01 dpkg-reconfigure Apr 27 11:24:19 there is no dpkg-reconfigure, that's the thing .. Apr 27 11:25:19 dpkg --configure maybe Apr 27 11:28:11 hmmm, well it seems to work anyway hehe Apr 27 11:28:19 * dreamer sees all the flacs Apr 27 11:38:56 sicelo: I'm not sure exactly, but I suspect it has something to do with input buffering. Apr 27 11:39:47 iirc I straced it once and it didn't seem to get anything like a segfault .. I think it just exited. Apr 27 11:40:10 but it's not strictly limited to vim .. it seems to just get triggered a lot more often when using vim than when using anything else. Apr 27 11:40:48 and it happens especially in vim whether I'm using the vim from maemo, from the Debian chroot, or through tmux through ssh. Apr 27 11:41:14 maybe I should try one of those terminal recording things and see if it can reproduce it on replay. I suspect it won't though. Apr 27 11:43:28 maybe you are pressing some key combination Apr 27 11:44:19 I'm pretty sure it's not something like that. Apr 27 11:44:52 the most common case other than in vim is when pressing alt-a in irssi in tmux Apr 27 11:45:06 what does it do? Apr 27 11:45:08 well, blue-enter, a Apr 27 11:45:38 Switches to the most recently viewed window that has new activity. Apr 27 11:46:01 er, irssi in tmux in ssh Apr 27 11:47:22 and just now when I tried it it happened just after writing `dd` in vim (to delete a line) Apr 27 12:07:23 Hm, esc-dd seems to actually do it somewhat reliably. Apr 27 12:07:35 maybe once every three tries if I do it quickly. Apr 27 12:07:41 not necessarily in vim Apr 27 12:08:55 but it has to be esc using the key I've mapped (blue-enter), not the one in the button tray. Apr 27 12:09:17 can do it with other combinations including esc too. Apr 27 12:09:33 maybe it's all got something to do with esc Apr 27 12:09:59 Ahah. It happens in other programs as well. Apr 27 12:10:10 So I guess it's the window manager closing it, not the terminal crashing. Apr 27 12:11:29 Hmm .. but I still can't get it to close rxvt-unicode when doing it. Apr 27 12:12:40 also doesn't do it for qmpc .. so far just Opera and osso-xterm Apr 27 12:14:43 and those are pretty much the only windowed programs I use .. Opera, qmpc, osso-xterm, rxvt-unicode (rarely) Apr 27 12:15:51 * Maxdamantus will try remapping esc to another key without a modifier Apr 27 12:31:55 I remapped esc to a blue+something key as well and never noticed that with (plain) xterm Apr 27 12:41:01 Hmm Apr 27 12:44:18 https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/8460d89983c29533355c2d243abb7b4c Apr 27 12:44:53 .gz.base64 <3 Apr 27 12:45:11 kpinp is a capture of /dev/input/keypad when it exited (near the end) Apr 27 12:46:24 100 = blue, 28 = enter, 23 = c, 34 = i, 49 = b Apr 27 12:47:12 eh, might've just found an easier way to trigger it Apr 27 12:47:53 okay, I can trigger it by just pressing blue and enter randomly Apr 27 12:48:13 that way I'm pretty sure I'm not entering unknown keys accidentally. Apr 27 12:48:46 note though that I'm not running hildon-input-manager, so blue isn't sticky for me Apr 27 12:50:34 okay, I don't even need to do it randomly Apr 27 12:50:46 just running `cat` then holding blue and enter does it Apr 27 12:51:02 does that happen for you too? Apr 27 12:51:17 blue is here "sticky" because I defined it so in rx-51 Apr 27 12:51:58 Mm, I think the stickiness shouldn't affect it with the current trigger. Apr 27 12:52:25 since blue is always held down anyway, it should always go through the modifier. Apr 27 12:52:44 running running cat in osso-xterm and my blue+""esc"" key doesn't trigger any bug Apr 27 12:53:08 also, it does it with my other key that I mapped to Escape too Apr 27 12:53:37 so I can just hold down a single normal key (the physical 't' key in this case), that I've mapped to Escape in rx-51 Apr 27 12:54:26 so for you it just keeps writing "^[" indefinitely? Apr 27 12:54:44 yup Apr 27 12:55:10 I do have hildon-input-manager in osso* applications though Apr 27 12:55:32 it also exits on another one of my devices which is still using hildon-input-manager as usual. Apr 27 12:55:45 ah Apr 27 12:56:22 though it is a copy of an old backup of my usual device, so there might be something else relevant. Apr 27 12:58:14 I get the same behaviour in Opera. Apr 27 12:58:23 but not qmpc or urxvt Apr 27 12:58:41 so holding down escape also exits opera Apr 27 13:02:20 anyway, need to sleep now. I think I have a a decent amount of information to investigate further. Apr 27 15:39:09 55" 1024*720 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20170427_002.jpg http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20170427_005.jpg http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20170427_008.jpg http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20170427_009.jpg Apr 27 15:39:27 ugh, sorry, wrong channel **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 28 03:00:01 2017