**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 06 03:00:05 2017 May 06 03:49:26 can i see a history of ussd requests? May 06 03:49:42 they don't show up in the call history :( May 06 06:33:28 L29Ah: i don't believe you can (on any mobile for that matter) May 06 06:37:44 i believe you can on sailfish May 06 08:00:39 Hello. I'd like to try Hildon on Devuan (N900). I know it is not quite ready for that. I also know others are working on that. Now, I found https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-desktop. Is this the right place to start from? Should it work on Debian already? Are there any instructions to build it? May 06 08:01:27 Enrico_Menotti, yay May 06 08:02:38 ravelo What do you mean? May 06 08:03:53 Enrico_Menotti, sorry, just wanted to encourage you ... May 06 08:03:55 :) May 06 08:04:01 :) May 06 08:04:13 otherwise I cannot help yet ;) May 06 08:04:25 ravelo Did you see my document on Devuan installation? May 06 08:04:39 https://oasis.sandstorm.io/grain/nnsxfmhxk2NAGYYcfCovrF/ May 06 08:04:54 sry, did not have time for it yet May 06 08:04:59 (Or rather Devuan test.) May 06 08:05:10 No worries, thanks. May 06 08:05:20 thanks for reminding May 06 08:05:55 Well, I'll wait some time until I get a few feedbacks, if possible, then publish on the wiki. That's my plan. May 06 08:06:12 great May 06 08:06:32 bbl May 06 08:06:39 Ok. May 06 08:07:02 i looked at it very briefly yesterday. it's good :) May 06 08:07:27 i'd say wiki it right away ... any issues can still be ironed out on wiki May 06 08:08:28 sicelo Thanks. I'll do that in a few days. What's the best way? Upload it somewhere as a separate document, or copy and paste on a wiki page? May 06 08:09:37 copy paste should be good. of course you might need to play a bit with wiki syntax for the code parts May 06 08:10:09 Ok, I'll follow that way. Thanks. May 06 08:26:40 freemangordon Ping. May 06 12:13:54 I received two positive feedbacks on my document, and I have some free time now. So I'm thinking about creating a wiki page with that. Is it ok if I go for talk.maemo.org -> OS/platform -> Alternatives (i.e. http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36), and create a new thread? Is it maybe worth creating a sub-forum for Devuan? May 06 12:52:40 Enrico_Menotti: http://wiki.maemo.org . . . that's too long for tmo May 06 12:53:02 if you want a tmo thread, you can link to your wiki entry May 06 12:54:52 i don't believe you can create a sub-forum on tmo ... although you could ask admins to create it foryou May 06 12:55:04 wiki is prefered May 06 14:26:35 wiki! May 06 14:27:49 talk.maemo.org -> OS/platform -> Alternatives is ok for tmo threads about devuan, but not the right place for documentation May 06 14:29:19 http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_on_Debian May 06 14:50:01 DocScrutinizer05 Should I post on that wiki page? "Maemo_on_Debian"? Wouldn't be better a "Devuan_on_N900"? May 06 14:50:53 yes, the latter May 06 14:51:10 maemo_on_devuan May 06 14:51:32 wait, that's not maemo, so yours is more to the point May 06 14:52:11 So is it possible for me to create such a page? (Sorry for asking - it's the first time I do such things.) May 06 14:52:12 but what I linked is the right 'namespace' May 06 14:53:01 http://wiki.maemo.org/Devuan_on_N900 May 06 14:53:38 Did you create it right now? May 06 14:53:40 http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Devuan_on_N900&action=edit only when logged in May 06 14:54:14 hope it works for you. If not let me know May 06 14:54:26 I will try immediately. May 06 14:54:43 and? May 06 14:54:55 ooh, login takes some time May 06 14:55:36 anyway should work, the page isn't protected from what I can tell May 06 14:56:20 http://wstaw.org/m/2017/05/06/plasma-desktopm22054.png May 06 14:58:11 Ok, I'm in the edit form. I'm trying to understand whether I may upload my doc or better copy and paste. May 06 14:58:23 c&p May 06 14:58:49 no way to upload files and make them visible in a reasonable manner May 06 14:58:55 Ok. May 06 14:59:41 you can embed files but that's strongly discouraged for plain text info meant to be editable by others May 06 15:01:46 re "sub forum" the fptf sub might fit as well May 06 15:03:06 http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=58 May 06 15:04:28 but not really, I think http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36 fits fine. Once admins decide to make a Devuan subforum under http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36, they will move threads accordingly May 06 15:05:09 Ok, I will first create the wiki. Then we'll see, ok? May 06 15:07:10 I created a thread for you ;-) May 06 15:07:40 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1527744#post1527744 May 06 15:08:32 Thank you! May 06 15:09:07 yw, thanks for doing the howto May 06 15:11:10 a hint: save frequently when editing wiki pages. You'll frown when 'save' fails and nukes all your edits done since last save May 06 15:12:19 sometimes browser back-button can recover the edits in such case, but not always May 06 15:13:29 Enrico_Menotti: ^^^ May 06 15:14:01 Ok. May 06 15:21:53 non-obvious trick: to make evvective linebreaks, add a few space to end of line, before CR May 06 15:22:05 effective* May 06 15:22:35 iirc May 06 15:22:52 * DocScrutinizer05 hopes that wasn't another wiki markup language May 06 15:24:24 damn, no, doesn't work on wmo May 06 15:26:09 http://wiki.maemo.org/Help:Editing and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting May 06 15:29:22 MediaWiki ignores single line breaks. To start a new paragraph, leave an empty line. You can force a line break within a paragraph with the HTML tag
. May 06 16:06:24 DocScrutinizer05 Did it. Thank you! May 06 16:06:35 yw May 06 16:06:40 parazyd sicelo ^^^ May 06 16:06:47 great page! May 06 16:06:59 (And anyone else.) May 06 16:07:04 Thank you! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 07 03:00:00 2017