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Jun 23 06:36:47 <sicelo> i can't send gmail on my N900, using modest *or* mutt. mutt   shows a message that 'no authenticators available'
Jun 23 06:53:15 <sicelo> ah, working now
Jun 23 06:56:05 <sicelo> not mutt though
Jun 23 09:58:46 <jonwil> hi
Jun 23 15:50:04 <freemangordon> Enrico_Menotti: gtk build should be fixed, please pull and retry
Jun 23 17:15:23 <Enrico_Menotti> freemangordon Ok, thanks. I plan to do that tomorrow in the afternoon (or in the evening, due to the very hot days.) Will let you know.
Jun 23 20:18:21 <kolp> hi. got a new battery for my n900. is there a way to reset the 'full charge' (shown by e.g. bnf)? have tried to calibrate the usual way (fully charged --> let die) several times to no avail
Jun 23 22:15:43 <Maxdamantus> kolp: ime, if the new one has significantly more capacity than the old one, you might need to quickly discharge it when CSOC gets to around 8%
Jun 23 22:17:53 <Maxdamantus> kolp: I suspect if you were watching CSOC you might have seen it stay at 8% (iirc if you read the spec sheet for the battery it talks about special behaviour at LMD/12.5)
Jun 23 22:20:06 <Maxdamantus> actually, 6%, LMD/16
Jun 23 23:00:33 <sixwheeledbeast^> ~bnf
Jun 23 23:00:33 <infobot> methinks bnf is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1211656
Jun 23 23:01:18 <sixwheeledbeast^> ~bq27200
Jun 23 23:01:19 <infobot> it has been said that bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2, or ~bq27
Jun 23 23:09:16 <xy2_> ~bnf
Jun 23 23:09:17 <infobot> hmm... bnf is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1211656
Jun 23 23:53:20 <DocScrutinizer05> ~bq-calibrate
Jun 23 23:53:20 <infobot> bq-calibrate is, like, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/calibrate-bq27k.sh, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1247595
Jun 23 23:54:35 <DocScrutinizer05> works reliably each time 
Jun 23 23:55:24 <DocScrutinizer05> even more reliable than lazyflashing ;-)
Jun 23 23:56:00 <DocScrutinizer05> though... also needs the bq27200.sh iirc
Jun 23 23:57:03 <DocScrutinizer05> and you need to cd `dirname $(which bq27200.sh)`
Jun 24 02:20:50 <Maxdamantus> DocScrutinizer05: I don't think that accounts for the NAC <= LMD/16 issue.
Jun 24 02:23:21 <Maxdamantus> ie, this: https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/fc0c0089eedbb5a00982
Jun 24 02:26:05 <Maxdamantus> when NAC gets to LMD/16 (I can tell by my logs that LMD = 1088 there, so 1088/16 = 68), it just sits there for a few hours.
Jun 24 02:26:45 <Maxdamantus> Don't really understand why, but the spec sheet says weird things about LMD/16, eg:
Jun 24 02:27:04 <Maxdamantus> > Self-discharge at termination of learning cycle. If self-discharge estimate causes NAC ≤ LMD/16, VDQ is cleared.
Jun 24 02:28:21 <Maxdamantus> So I'm guessing it just doesn't expect NAC to drop below LMD/16 under normal conditions and some mechanism at least gives it a chance for recalibration by keeping NAC = LMD/16 for a while, but eventually it decides something's wrong.
Jun 24 02:28:44 <Maxdamantus> Maybe it wasn't designed for systems where the battery is swapped.
Jun 24 02:30:35 <Maxdamantus> Hm .. I guess the comment produced by that script could help though, since it says to leave the backlight on to speed up discharge.
Jun 24 02:35:59 <Maxdamantus> > During a discharge with VDQ = 1, NAC is not allowed to drop below LMD/16 until EDV1 = 1.
Jun 24 02:37:19 <Maxdamantus> So something else causes VDQ = 0 during that slow discharge, allowing NAC to continue to decrease (without EDV1 = 1)
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