**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 05 03:00:01 2017 Aug 05 08:34:43 TheKit: I mean, if you take out compositing it's probably not too hard to make h-d not use opengl, but let's not worry about that now specifically Aug 05 08:34:50 TheKit: for now llvmpipe can probably be OK for testing too Aug 05 08:36:21 yes, I tried with llvmpipe in chroot on top of SFOS Aug 05 08:36:35 it's slow, but works for testing Aug 05 08:36:45 yes. Aug 05 08:36:51 also you can test/develop on intel Aug 05 08:37:02 I'm going to fly to HK now, but I'll be taking my n900, two more, and the droid4 :) Aug 05 08:37:13 let's see if we can get things moving Aug 05 08:37:34 right now I'm waiting for parazyd to come back, and then we can connect the devuan infra with the maemo machine we have Aug 05 08:37:37 and then get started :) Aug 05 08:58:29 Hi all! Aug 05 13:35:42 Anyone use portable speakers? Are MD-7W ('08) or MD-12 ('14) good quality (each new for $20)? Aug 05 13:37:02 non-propreitry battery sounds better. Quality = still functioning in 10years Aug 05 13:40:12 Not really N900 has half decent stereo speakers so never bothered for the minimal time I would use. Aug 05 15:26:09 seems a-gps non-working again .. not sure why. openssl estblishes connection to supl Aug 05 16:03:35 seems to WFM Aug 05 16:07:11 :-) Aug 05 16:07:23 instant fix? Aug 05 16:16:50 yep but it may still have valid data Aug 05 18:24:20 surprisingly, if I use Android phone, ported hildon-desktop with Xwayland/libhybris hack and rootfs from real N900 in chroot most stock apps actually start (address book, notes, calendar, file manager and so on) Aug 05 18:24:25 even with virtual keyboard Aug 05 18:25:00 this could be somewhat usable if there are wrappers to start apps within chroot outside of it Aug 05 18:26:56 does rtcom-call-ui talk to telepathy-ring? Aug 05 22:39:32 ((does rtcom-call-ui talk to telepathy-ring?)) I'd guess that yes **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 06 03:00:00 2017