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Aug 20 05:08:04 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast^: I lost context
Aug 20 05:08:38 <DocScrutinizer05> sicelo: congrats
Aug 20 05:16:05 <DocScrutinizer05> ((<bencoh> sicelo: looks like it has something muxed on usb)) that's the normal canonical way to have serial console. Other stuff like serial over headset jack is a terrible botch and an abomination. USB has specs for doing serial via D+/D-
Aug 20 05:16:50 <DocScrutinizer05> iirc it's supported on hw level at least in MG MUSB core
Aug 20 05:17:43 <DocScrutinizer05> so it's not exactly muxed, it's rather a genuine alternative operation mode of USB hardware 
Aug 20 05:18:25 <DocScrutinizer05> that's probably why a lot of Android phones do exactly that
Aug 20 06:19:03 <brolin_empey> Writing of Android phones, should I be concerned that the internal removable battery of my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N900W8, the variant for Canada) seems to be bulging?  Is the battery supposed to be bulging?  I have been using this battery for over 2 years by now because this battery was included with the computer when I bought the computer on eBay in 2015, around May.  The computer still seems to work fine.
Aug 20 06:19:22 <KotCzarny> yup, bulging == bad
Aug 20 06:20:38 <KotCzarny> while it may work more or less fine, it's like having time bomb
Aug 20 06:22:02 <brolin_empey> KotCzarny: What is the risk of using a bulging battery?  That the battery will explode or catch fire?  Why is the battery bulging in the first place?
Aug 20 06:22:13 <KotCzarny> in extreme cases, yes
Aug 20 06:23:36 <KotCzarny> When lithium-ion batteries are over heated, over charged, or simply failing due to old age, it's possible for the inner cells of the battery to outgas a flammable electrolyte mixture. This is where the swollen battery effect comes from: the batteries are designed to contain, as a fail safe measure, that out gassing so that it doesn't cause a catastrophic fire.
Aug 20 06:24:10 <KotCzarny> https://www.howtogeek.com/244846/what-to-do-when-your-phone-or-laptop-has-a-swollen-battery/
Aug 20 06:27:06 <brolin_empey> Is 2 years considered old age for this type of battery?  I do not know for how long the battery was used before I bought it as part of the computer.  The Galaxy Note 3 was originally released in late 2013, though, so I guess the battery will not be from before 2013 even if the battery is the original battery.
Aug 20 06:27:24 <KotCzarny> my n900's battery is 8 years old
Aug 20 06:27:42 <KotCzarny> but it was treated gently, so it's aging with grace
Aug 20 06:27:52 <KotCzarny> still use it in my main phone
Aug 20 06:28:11 <KotCzarny> if you buy noname battery/cells, it can start aging in few months
Aug 20 06:28:56 <KotCzarny> all it takes is leaving battery empty for a few weeks, then things starting to crystallize inside
Aug 20 06:29:17 <KotCzarny> and then it doesnt matter if it was month old, or few years
Aug 20 06:29:25 <KotCzarny> overheating is similar story
Aug 20 06:34:12 <brolin_empey> Well, in any case, I am glad that I still have an easily removable battery.  It sucks that the battery of the BlackBerry Priv and BlackBerry KEYone is non-removable because those are still, as far as I know, the only models of smartphones officially running Android OS version 5 or higher with an integrated hardware keyboard and integrated LTE connectivity.
Aug 20 06:34:59 <KotCzarny> that's what you get for being treated as a product, not a customer
Aug 20 07:02:27 <brolin_empey> BlackBerry (company) used to use removable batteries, at least before the BlackBerry 10 era.
Aug 20 07:31:49 <sixwheeledbeast^> {{"anyone having issues with SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP on some pages in MicroB?"}} which pages for others to try.
Aug 20 07:52:46 <merlin1991> sixwheeledbeast^: that sounds like the ssl lib in microb is so out of date that servers are phasing out support for the ciphers available in it
Aug 20 08:13:37 <vahe[m]> hi all, http://spek.cc/  how can I install it?
Aug 20 08:14:21 <vahe[m]> I tried git download and autogen.sh but it did not
Aug 20 08:14:45 <vahe[m]> https://bpaste.net/show/9f9ca75f282a
Aug 20 08:22:29 <Vajb> it seems to me that page https://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power#Uninstalling_kernel-power gives wrong info
Aug 20 08:23:12 <Vajb> i uninstalled power kernel by the instructions there and now device wont boot. I guess it doesn't have kernel
Aug 20 08:23:29 <Vajb> or proper kernel or something
Aug 20 08:24:31 <Vajb> screen lights up shows white background and nokia text then shuts down. White led in down left corner stays on maybe 10 seconds and turns off too
Aug 20 08:25:25 <Vajb> so i guess there is nothing else to do than flash it again? Or just flash kernel i guess.
Aug 20 08:26:22 <bencoh> you could try rescueOS first, and/or reflash kernel using flasher, assuming you know which kernel you're supposed to flash atm
Aug 20 08:27:01 <Vajb> i was going back o stock to get u-boot and have multiple os
Aug 20 08:27:07 <Vajb> to*
Aug 20 08:27:40 <Vajb> guess i'll just use flasher to flash stock kernel then
Aug 20 08:28:14 <sixwheeledbeast> Using thumb?
Aug 20 08:28:17 <Vajb> but that is not too relevant here. More relevant here is that our wiki page gives non-working instructions.
Aug 20 08:28:27 <Vajb> cssu-t not thumb
Aug 20 08:29:51 <sixwheeledbeast> I thought the best way was to click the "stock Kernel" icon in the menu?
Aug 20 08:31:27 <Vajb> dunno. I followed wiki for a change ;)
Aug 20 08:31:30 <sixwheeledbeast> It's called "Nokia Kernel" this will remove KP and reinstall the stock kernel. The method on the wiki I assume is if you want to remove manually
Aug 20 08:33:01 <Vajb> hmm now if i vere adventurous i would try to get power-kernel to device again and check if this approach works
Aug 20 08:34:23 <DocScrutinizer05> the wiki instructions seem fine
Aug 20 08:34:38 <DocScrutinizer05> and they were not placed there without testing them
Aug 20 08:34:48 <bencoh> well, apparently... :p
Aug 20 08:34:56 <DocScrutinizer05> 99.9% are PEBKAC
Aug 20 08:35:52 <DocScrutinizer05> though admittedly sometimes wili lacks to cover fringe cases
Aug 20 08:36:00 <DocScrutinizer05> wiki*
Aug 20 08:37:12 <DocScrutinizer05> but a quite obvious failure mode would be to not check closely for the reply of install command as suggested in wiki, and just continue despite the procedure failed
Aug 20 08:37:42 <DocScrutinizer05> >>5. Should it complete successfully (with "SIGTERM received" and "Image flashed successfully" messages),<<
Aug 20 08:38:16 <Vajb> well i could claim that procedure went through perfectly, but i can't provide any logs of the thing so there is no point.
Aug 20 08:38:54 <DocScrutinizer05> did you check the `ls -l /lib/modules/current` ?
Aug 20 08:39:21 <Vajb> i did and it reported back exactly what was told in wiki
Aug 20 08:39:34 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, strange
Aug 20 08:40:22 <Vajb> indeed
Aug 20 08:40:30 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh's advice to use rescueOS should allow to investigate the issue
Aug 20 08:40:46 <sixwheeledbeast> Do flash only kernel with flasher?
Aug 20 08:41:43 <DocScrutinizer05> did you by any chance "clean up" the kernel modules while you used KP?
Aug 20 08:42:59 <DocScrutinizer05> I mean a "/lib/modules/current -> 2.6.28-omap1" is only 0.1% of the whole thing, there obviously also needs to be a real dir 2.6.28-omap1/ with all the kernel modules for stock kernel
Aug 20 08:43:26 <Vajb> i didn't
Aug 20 08:43:41 <Vajb> unless power-kernel install does that automaticly?
Aug 20 08:44:05 <DocScrutinizer05> when you deleted that to free some space (assuming it's not needed with powerkernel) and the install-flashing of stock kernel didn't restore it, then your stock kernel won't work even when you flash it via flasher now
Aug 20 08:44:17 <Vajb> but would those missing modules result to not succesfull flash of kernel as well?
Aug 20 08:44:27 <DocScrutinizer05> yes
Aug 20 08:44:42 <DocScrutinizer05> flashing kernel does just that
Aug 20 08:45:10 <DocScrutinizer05> while kernel modules are normal files in root-fs
Aug 20 08:45:18 <Vajb> i meant "wouldn't it produce some errors for user to see?"
Aug 20 08:45:31 <DocScrutinizer05> no
Aug 20 08:46:11 <DocScrutinizer05> at least I don't think so
Aug 20 08:46:14 <Vajb> hmm i c
Aug 20 08:46:50 <Vajb> well that is one possibility then, but i never needed to free any space
Aug 20 08:47:42 <Vajb> this device barely had anything, but conky, ssh and bunch of things to resolve crashesh
Aug 20 08:48:43 <DocScrutinizer05> you could analyze your last BM-backup of root-fs, it's just a tarball
Aug 20 08:48:44 <Vajb> it was maybe a month ago, when i flashed this with lazyflash. Then installed css-t and power-kernel and started solving unstability issues
Aug 20 08:49:11 <Vajb> don't have backups of this device :/
Aug 20 08:49:25 <DocScrutinizer05> that's pretty unfortunate
Aug 20 08:50:24 <Vajb> yes. I'll take it as "all life is learning, but there are still some mysteries left"
Aug 20 08:51:34 <Vajb> now if there were one voluntee to test the procedure as well. To confirm my result or to pinpoint i made a mistake.
Aug 20 09:14:18 <KotCzarny> can n900's fm transmitter be used below 88mhz?
Aug 20 09:15:13 <bencoh> KotCzarny: https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_FM_radio_transmitter
Aug 20 09:16:59 <DocScrutinizer05> 76 - 108MHz
Aug 20 09:17:22 <DocScrutinizer05> say "Hello Japan"
Aug 20 09:17:31 <KotCzarny> so no way to make it 27mhz, heh
Aug 20 09:17:38 <DocScrutinizer05> LOL no
Aug 20 09:18:12 <bencoh> KotCzarny: what are you trying to achieve? :)
Aug 20 09:18:26 <KotCzarny> me? nothing.. *scuttersaway*
Aug 20 09:18:30 <bencoh> riiight
Aug 20 09:18:35 <KotCzarny> also, this is nice: https://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/video4linux/si4713.txt
Aug 20 09:18:46 <KotCzarny> apparently radio quality can be tuned a bit
Aug 20 09:22:20 <KotCzarny> and if v4l2 interface works on n900 it's a nice alternative 
Aug 20 09:22:31 <bencoh> it does
Aug 20 09:22:40 <bencoh> well, iirc it does
Aug 20 09:23:59 <brolin_empey> Vajb: Some of life is teaching, not learning. ;-)
Aug 20 09:24:32 <KotCzarny> did you dispose of that battery already? or waiting for a life's lesson? ;)
Aug 20 09:26:04 <Vajb> brolin_empey: i haven't reach teaching phase yet :p
Aug 20 09:26:57 <brolin_empey> KotCzarny: Not yet but I will try to source a replacement battery.  I do not have a spare battery and do not want to stop using my handheld computer until I receive a new battery.
Aug 20 09:27:25 <KotCzarny> :>
Aug 20 09:28:43 <brolin_empey> It is around 02:30 on Sunday here.  I should be asleep but I slept during the day on Saturday because I have a weak will and am depressed because my life has no direction.
Aug 20 09:29:31 <KotCzarny> have you tried tinkering/creating? helps that part
Aug 20 09:33:39 <DocScrutinizer05> how's that FMTX driver sourcecode relevant for "improve quality"
Aug 20 09:36:16 <brolin_empey> I should try to write a personal advertisement to market myself to young women as a friend inclusive-or romantic partner but I procrastinate because I find writing such a thing very frustrating because I spend a long time trying to decide how to express my thoughts in writing and I do not know what to say nor how to describe myself.
Aug 20 09:38:49 <DocScrutinizer05> you're aware this is just the docs for the driver used in N900?
Aug 20 09:39:04 <brolin_empey> I am an engineer (of some type), not a marketer.
Aug 20 09:40:20 <DocScrutinizer05> modinfo fmtx_si4713  #-> author:         Eduardo Valentin <eduardo.valentin@indt.org.br>
Aug 20 09:40:55 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/video4linux/si4713.txt  ->> Contact: Eduardo Valentin <eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
Aug 20 09:40:58 <KotCzarny> i'm talking about using standard interface instead of using shell binaries
Aug 20 09:41:19 <DocScrutinizer05> err wut?
Aug 20 09:41:42 <DocScrutinizer05> nah, i', out. This starts again
Aug 20 10:36:21 <Vajb> i have question about irssi. When on desktop i can change channel window by pressing alt+number. Is this somehow achievable in maemo?
Aug 20 10:37:01 <Vajb> i mean directly to jump from say 2 to 9
Aug 20 10:37:05 <bencoh> you'll notice it works with meta
Aug 20 10:37:22 <bencoh> meaning pressing/releasing ESC before pressing any digit works as alt+digit
Aug 20 10:37:56 <bencoh> I remapped a key combination to act as ESC in rx-51 so that works for me
Aug 20 10:37:59 <Vajb> cool, thx bencoh 
Aug 20 10:38:18 <Vajb> bencoh: today u made the difference :)
Aug 20 10:43:33 <bencoh> glad to help
Aug 20 10:57:14 <brolin_empey> KotCzarny: This looks like a good deal: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Original-OEM-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-III-Battery-NFC-N9000-B800BU-E-3200mAh-/252678365710?hash=item3ad4cde20e:g:hBwAAOSwiDFYN8dA
Aug 20 10:57:14 <brolin_empey> My current battery says B800BU .  I wonder what the difference is between the B800BU and B800BE?
Aug 20 10:57:58 <KotCzarny> maybe e is for extended
Aug 20 10:58:31 <brolin_empey> Or U for USA and E for Europe?  I am just guessing.
Aug 20 11:11:24 <brolin_empey> Well, I bought two of these batteries, will continue using my current bulging battery until the new batteries arrive.
Aug 20 11:53:33 <Wikiwide> Hooray! The Conversations program might be working, again. But I have a tiny suspicion that it's tied up with rootfs somehow, aka sqlite3 opening a 60MB database requires 60MB of free space on rootfs. Which is not good, if it is so.
Aug 20 11:55:13 <KotCzarny> iisnt rootfs on nand?
Aug 20 11:58:39 <Wikiwide> Rootfs is internal memory, yes.
Aug 20 11:58:57 <Wikiwide> And Conversations database is officially home partition, not rootfs.
Aug 20 11:59:02 <KotCzarny> does it mean it will write 60MB to nand quite often?
Aug 20 12:00:33 <Wikiwide> No idea how sqlite3 works.
Aug 20 12:01:02 <Wikiwide> That's why I think it would make sense to have logs as many tiny files.
Aug 20 12:01:03 <KotCzarny> but if you say it needs that amount of storage on rootfs..
Aug 20 12:01:30 <KotCzarny> btw. you can trace what files are accessed/written to, assuming kernel has fs trace enabled
Aug 20 12:05:48 <Wikiwide> Hmm, interesting idea...
Aug 20 12:07:57 <Wikiwide> I just know that when I was trying to vacuum the database, it was giving "database disk image malformed" or something error, which may be caused by lack of space on a partition (amongst other reasons). And homefs had more than enough free space (100MB or so?), while rootfs had "only" 50MB free. Database is 60MB.
Aug 20 12:09:05 <Wikiwide> But it's all quite unreliable data and fragile hypothesis. More statistics from people with huge el-v1.db would be nice.
Aug 20 12:11:14 <Wikiwide> And "disk I/O error" once, when trying to vacuum.
Aug 20 12:12:00 <Wikiwide> But in the end, I managed to vacuum without any errors.
Aug 20 12:12:17 <Wikiwide> And more than 60MB free on rootfs.
Aug 20 12:12:46 <Wikiwide> Which was difficult ^ uninstalled cherry, ncurses...
Aug 20 12:13:07 <KotCzarny> i'm curious, how did your db got so big?
Aug 20 12:13:09 <KotCzarny> irc logs?
Aug 20 12:13:27 <Wikiwide> Yes
Aug 20 12:13:46 <KotCzarny> then irc plugin should stop doing that
Aug 20 12:13:55 <KotCzarny> maybe apart from real priv msgs
Aug 20 12:14:54 <Wikiwide> I am currently thinking about moving irc logs out of el-v1.db and into some other place, like irssi backlogs.
Aug 20 12:15:11 <Wikiwide> And using irssi or something, instead of telepathy-idle
Aug 20 12:16:03 <Wikiwide> Which is, quite annoying, given how irssi is likely not fully integrated with contacts, notifications and such
Aug 20 12:16:43 <Wikiwide> Other approach could be figuring out a better way to store logs than one huge sqlite3 database. 
Aug 20 12:17:05 <KotCzarny> imo, channel logs dont belong to conversations db
Aug 20 12:18:22 <Wikiwide> Imagine somebody using the same device for 10 years. Lots of SMS, lots of phone calls. Could still amount to a large database file. Maybe not 60MB, but...
Aug 20 12:18:48 <KotCzarny> imagine someone using the same cellphone for 10 years
Aug 20 12:18:50 <KotCzarny> :P
Aug 20 12:19:55 <KotCzarny> and phone calls are removed after 6 months or something
Aug 20 12:20:17 <Wikiwide> Well, I am using Nokia N900 for 7+ years, don't remember exactly. It's not exactly same device, but only because of accidents (like full rootfs on one, multiboot+kernelupgrade on another )
Aug 20 12:20:50 <KotCzarny> yup, minimal way it would go without reflashing at least once or twice
Aug 20 12:21:01 <KotCzarny> s/way/chance/
Aug 20 12:21:01 <infobot> KotCzarny meant: yup, minimal chance it would go without reflashing at least once or twice
Aug 20 12:21:52 <Wikiwide> As stubborn as I am, I mean to merge all databases of the three devices into one, once I get to fixing them.
Aug 20 12:22:16 <Wikiwide> And ideally, get a way to sync IRC logs between phone and computer.
Aug 20 12:22:18 <KotCzarny> write a plugin and integrate with google cloud
Aug 20 12:22:18 <KotCzarny> ;)
Aug 20 12:22:59 <Wikiwide> So, yes, it makes sense to move IRC logs (very talkative) into something else (instead of el-v1.db)
Aug 20 12:23:43 <sixwheeledbeast> why cloud if devices are on the same lan? I assume irc logs are only there due to using conversation plugin for irc?
Aug 20 12:24:13 <Wikiwide> Like, create a major telepathy-idle upgrade which identifies contacts by NickServ registration and writes logs to a different place.
Aug 20 12:24:57 <Wikiwide> Sixwheeledbeast : not necessarily on same lan, I irc from both home and workplace
Aug 20 12:26:37 <sixwheeledbeast> bouncer?
Aug 20 12:29:22 <Wikiwide> Would need to establish an immortal server for that
Aug 20 12:30:15 <sixwheeledbeast> :nod:
Aug 20 12:37:23 <brolin_empey> I have had a “mobile telephone” only since 2008, not yet ten years ago.
Aug 20 14:35:22 <brolin_empey> Heh, I was unaware of the solar eclipse occuring tomorrow (Monday) until today (Sunday).
Aug 20 15:51:13 <DocScrutinizer05> Wikiwide: opening a 60MB database requires huge amounts of RAM, which gives your system swap hell
Aug 20 15:53:01 <DocScrutinizer05> Wikiwide: again, it's confirmed knowledge that anything maybe >2MB in events db will bring your system down
Aug 20 15:53:46 <DocScrutinizer05> there's no real good rationale for keeping this insane amount of conversations in history either
Aug 20 15:56:56 <DocScrutinizer05> Wikiwide: if you want a bouncer, please query me
Aug 20 16:04:33 <DocScrutinizer05> and regarding irc logs: I don't log at all on my phone. I got a bouncer where I could log (I don't) and I got logs on my PC which is 24/7/366 online and logging
Aug 20 16:04:54 <DocScrutinizer05> wouldn't know what for I need logs on phone anyway
Aug 20 16:05:14 <DocScrutinizer05> usually you got channel logbots for that
Aug 20 16:06:02 <DocScrutinizer05> so even while xchat could log, I disabled it on phone. And I'd hope same option exists in telepathy crap
Aug 20 16:07:04 <DocScrutinizer05> when I had logging, there was this nasty string that killed xchat X-P
Aug 20 16:12:51 <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.cloud-7.de/clean-N900xchat-scrollback-from-rogue-string.sh
Aug 20 16:15:33 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh sorry, that's just scrollback, a mini-log 
Aug 20 16:20:22 <sixwheeledbeast> the with the conversations plugin I would expect to be stored in message db until you clear it.
Aug 20 16:21:07 <sixwheeledbeast> sicelo: I have same output as your TMO post but still no issues with GPS lock AFAIK.
Aug 20 16:22:45 <sicelo> A-GPS?
Aug 20 16:30:53 <sixwheeledbeast> Yeah I have no GPS lock via sat as I'm indoors.
Aug 20 16:32:10 <DocScrutinizer05> btw there's that clear-AGPS-cache binary, just ran nto that on my server
Aug 20 16:34:12 <sicelo> okay. no idea what's up then .. i've not had a-gps for a bit of time now
Aug 20 16:34:58 <DocScrutinizer05> tmo regression :-(  https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90651&goto=newpost ignores the &goto=newpost part despite me being logged in
Aug 20 16:36:04 <DocScrutinizer05> or actually, now it works. strange
Aug 20 16:37:46 <sicelo> sixwheeledbeast: what's your supl.nokia.com IP?
Aug 20 16:39:03 <sixwheeledbeast> the one from the thread  -  52.22.201.16
Aug 20 16:43:06 <sicelo> same i have (and that has been working consistently well)
Aug 20 17:07:35 <freemangordon> Wizzup: (re block on it) - yeah, there is plenty of debian/changelog work still to be done :)
Aug 20 17:10:56 <Wizzup> acknowledged
Aug 20 17:46:06 <DocScrutinizer05> ~fptf
Aug 20 17:46:07 <infobot> fptf is, like, the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308
Aug 20 18:41:13 <freemangordon> in the meanwhile: /me has REed 41711 of 64840 bytes from libhildon-plugins-notify-sv.so and nsv-decoder-service is 100% REed
Aug 20 18:43:56 <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: would you please /join #devuan-dev and explain the concept of maemo-devuan infra
Aug 20 18:44:40 <bencoh> freemangordon: yay :)
Aug 20 18:45:41 <DocScrutinizer05> s/concept/plans/
Aug 20 18:45:42 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: freemangordon: would you please /join #devuan-dev and explain the plans of maemo-devuan infra
Aug 20 18:45:48 <bencoh> ohright, I wanted to try building fremantle-gtk2
Aug 20 18:48:04 <DocScrutinizer05> parazyd: ^^^
Aug 20 18:50:47 <DocScrutinizer05> the guys over there decide about hosting and CI, you want to join in to explain your needs
Aug 20 18:53:38 <DocScrutinizer05> [2017-08-18 Fri 14:03:16] <freemangordon_> parazyd: do I get it right that we're waiting now for the documentation of build system to be completed?
Aug 20 18:53:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ^^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!°°°
Aug 20 18:55:28 <DocScrutinizer05> xes: could you help out with info about what the new VM on maemo infra was meant for, and what's the URL of that VM?
Aug 20 20:05:45 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: it is not about "us", but about how they're goint to implement devuan build system in general
Aug 20 20:06:36 <freemangordon> *going
Aug 20 20:36:13 <DocScrutinizer05> aha
Aug 20 20:37:09 <DocScrutinizer05> [2017-08-20 Sun 20:15:00] <Evilham> the quintessence is still that the maemo packages on https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2 are to be hosted and built under devuan-infra, right?
Aug 20 20:48:38 <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: how you're going to use "their" build system when your hosting is in devuan.maemo.org machine xes has set up on your request? Or was that VM meant for pther purposes aor even not needed at all?
Aug 20 20:50:53 <DocScrutinizer05> or are you not planning to use devuan CI? then what's all the gassle all about?
Aug 20 20:51:04 <DocScrutinizer05> s/ g/ h/
Aug 20 20:51:05 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: or are you not planning to use devuan CI? then what's all the hassle all about?
Aug 20 20:58:14 <TheKit> freemangordon, how do you count bytes reversed? :)
Aug 20 20:58:21 <Wikiwide> About 52.22.201.16 : is it to be added to /etc/hosts for supl.nokia.com ? Swap: it uses nand to extend ram? /Do not know much about swap/ c
Aug 20 20:58:58 <bencoh> Wikiwide: yes, and emmc instead of nand
Aug 20 20:59:08 <bencoh> (or sd, depending on your setup)
Aug 20 21:00:29 <Wikiwide> No sd card here. Emmc is like, MyDocs? Should not be a problem, it has plenty of free space (just makes everything slow-slow-slow, because emmc is slower than ram)
Aug 20 21:21:29 <bencoh> Wikiwide: it's a distinct partition in emmc
Aug 20 21:46:49 <sixwheeledbeast> I would only change it if you are having a-gps issues, seems to be working in some locations
Aug 21 02:12:27 <Juesto> how should i configure encryption on linphone to communicate with maemo sip?
Aug 21 02:37:53 <Vajb> it seems that purple-telegram has vibrations enabled even when device is silent and vibrations turned off. Is there any possibility to turn vibrations of for it too?
Aug 21 02:41:35 <Juesto> guess it's not respecting the system
Aug 21 02:41:47 <Juesto> doesn't have a setting?
Aug 21 02:46:13 <Vajb> not that i could find one. It has setting for sound volume, but not for vibration i Think.
Aug 21 02:47:22 <Juesto> hmm
Aug 21 02:51:56 <Vajb> there r settigs enable sound "always, when available, when not available"
Aug 21 02:52:09 <Vajb> then sound volume
Aug 21 02:53:26 <Vajb> and method "automatic, console beep, esd, alsa, command, no sounds"
Aug 21 02:54:08 <Vajb> and that's it
Aug 21 02:54:38 <Vajb> dunno if there is some plugin for it...
Aug 21 02:54:44 <Juesto> try some file somewhere?
Aug 21 02:55:05 <Juesto> it's a discontinued app?
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