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Aug 27 06:37:26 <Wikiwide> What hostname is irreco looking for? Because cannot resolve it.
Aug 27 06:40:41 <KotCzarny> use pierogi
Aug 27 06:40:46 <KotCzarny> much etter applicatio
Aug 27 06:40:57 <KotCzarny> (sorry for missig letters, my keyoard dies)
Aug 27 06:52:26 <Wikiwide> Trying it out. Does it include database of remotes, instead of Internet-loading it?
Aug 27 06:52:43 <Wikiwide> Neither neoniq nor onyx tvs are in the list
Aug 27 06:58:01 <KotCzarny> yes
Aug 27 06:58:12 <KotCzarny> ut you ca write author if you get the codes
Aug 27 06:58:18 <KotCzarny> he is active ad resposive
Aug 27 06:58:46 <KotCzarny> ad gettig codes is easy (ad you ca sed the lircd cofig to him too ad he will iclude the codes)
Aug 27 07:02:01 <KotCzarny> also, e sure to use versio from extras-devel
Aug 27 07:02:09 <KotCzarny> it's more curret
Aug 27 09:01:53 <DocScrutinizer05> irreco works fine for me
Aug 27 09:02:35 <DocScrutinizer05> you can add codes for new TVs
Aug 27 09:03:29 <DocScrutinizer05> the lirc server is a config item in irreco
Aug 27 09:51:46 <DocScrutinizer05> when irreco doesn't find the host, it probably means lircd isn't started
Aug 27 10:06:01 <rhn> DocScrutinizer05: my n900 boots! I owe you a beer
Aug 27 10:06:40 <DocScrutinizer05> Wikiwide: iirc irreco/lircd is originally configured to start lircd via /etc/init.d/lirc during boot time. Ideally this should get changed in a way so starting irreco does a "sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start" and something similar in a `trap "sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop" exit` in irreco (wapper script)
Aug 27 10:07:43 <DocScrutinizer05> rhn: it booting doesn't mean it's ok already. There might still be water causing electrolytic corrosion - if you want to be sure the device coniniues to work, make absolutely sure all water is gone
Aug 27 10:08:23 <rhn> DocScrutinizer05: that still gives hope though. but you're right, I'll leave it out to dry for a week, since I'm away anyway
Aug 27 10:09:59 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)
Aug 27 10:10:13 <rhn> DocScrutinizer05: I still consider myself in debt of a beer! if you're in Köln, let me know
Aug 27 10:11:02 <rhn> I'm also ready to hear about OpenMoko from an insider (proud owner of a dead GTA02)
Aug 27 10:14:57 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, why it's dead?
Aug 27 10:16:03 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm really eager to learn about long term endurance of all components and manufacturing involved. I've been in charge of that aspect :-)
Aug 27 10:16:35 <rhn> DocScrutinizer05: drowned, like all my other dead devices
Aug 27 10:26:52 <DocScrutinizer05> rhn: in case you missed:
Aug 27 10:26:55 <DocScrutinizer05> ~joerg
Aug 27 10:27:06 <DocScrutinizer05> damn bot!!!
Aug 27 10:29:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ~joerg
Aug 27 10:29:30 <infobot> methinks joerg is a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko. Usually known as DocScrutinizer. Initiator of http://neo900.org
Aug 27 10:31:08 <rhn> aha, I was wondering why there's multiple Joergs :)
Aug 27 10:31:33 <rhn> oh, the last bit I actually didn't realize!
Aug 27 11:02:44 <sicelo> jonwil: lwhat exactly was wrong with my /etc/certs & secure? i'm again getting verify_result=19.
Aug 27 11:03:33 <sicelo> i'll need to track what changes my cert store
Aug 27 11:17:52 <jonwil> Weird
Aug 27 11:39:25 <jonwil> I do have an idea to try that might help further.
Aug 27 11:45:57 <DocScrutinizer05> ~DocScrutinizer
Aug 27 11:45:58 <infobot> i heard docscrutinizer is Joerg (signature: 'jOERG'), a HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko. See ~joerg  and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JOERG
Aug 27 11:51:44 <sicelo> jonwil: sure. i'm up for anything
Aug 27 11:52:31 <jonwil> Ok do you have the maemosec-certman-common-ca_0.2.9_all.deb file on your N900?
Aug 27 11:52:48 <sicelo> yes
Aug 27 11:53:37 <jonwil> Ok so you connect to your phone and run commands via SSH? Or do you use terminal?
Aug 27 11:56:14 <DocScrutinizer05> I hope the former ;^)
Aug 27 11:56:39 <DocScrutinizer05> though I guess for sicelo that fails with lack of PC to run the ssh client on
Aug 27 11:56:48 <sicelo> i'm on terminal right now.
Aug 27 11:56:48 <sicelo> no laptop at hand :-)
Aug 27 11:56:55 <DocScrutinizer05> :-D
Aug 27 11:57:33 <jonwil> Ok so open terminal and switch to root.
Aug 27 11:57:58 <DocScrutinizer05> did you consider using H-E-N and a usb fullsize keyboard, plus CA-4711 TV cable?
Aug 27 11:58:13 <jonwil> then change to the directory containing the .deb file
Aug 27 11:58:38 <jonwil> sicelo: done that yet?
Aug 27 11:58:43 <DocScrutinizer05> ~hen
Aug 27 11:58:43 <infobot> somebody said hen was hostmode-easy-now, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232, or see ~hostmode
Aug 27 11:58:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ~hostmode
Aug 27 11:58:51 <infobot> hmm... hostmode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=652330, or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCDyUO0sKQ, or see ~hostmode-powered
Aug 27 11:59:10 <DocScrutinizer05> that YT vid
Aug 27 11:59:45 <sicelo> DocScrutinizer05: i have stowaway (SU-8W lookalike)
Aug 27 11:59:53 <DocScrutinizer05> :-D
Aug 27 12:00:19 <jonwil> You got terminal open?
Aug 27 12:01:16 <sicelo> jonwil: yes.
Aug 27 12:01:30 <jonwil> Ok, now run this command
Aug 27 12:01:31 <jonwil> dpkg --force-depends -P maemosec-certman-common-ca
Aug 27 12:01:42 <jonwil> It will remove maemosec-certman-common-ca including all the certificates
Aug 27 12:01:51 <jonwil> You will be reinstalling it in a sec, dont worry
Aug 27 12:02:05 <jonwil> Done that?
Aug 27 12:02:55 <sicelo> yes
Aug 27 12:03:18 <jonwil> Now do ls /etc/certs and tell me what you see
Aug 27 12:03:49 <sicelo> the 3 directories
Aug 27 12:03:54 <jonwil> what 3 directories?
Aug 27 12:03:58 <jonwil> what names
Aug 27 12:04:09 <sicelo> blacklist, common-ca, trusted
Aug 27 12:04:27 <jonwil> ok, do rm /etc/certs/blacklist/* then rm /etc/certs/common-ca/*
Aug 27 12:04:31 <jonwil> leave trusted alone
Aug 27 12:04:44 <jonwil> That will remove any left over certificate crap on your system
Aug 27 12:05:07 <jonwil> Then do ls /etc/secure/s and tell me if you see any files listed
Aug 27 12:05:54 <DocScrutinizer05> for reference:  certman.blacklist  certman.common-ca
Aug 27 12:06:39 <jonwil> you should see no files in /etc/secure/s at all
Aug 27 12:06:45 <sicelo> donenothing is there
Aug 27 12:06:47 <jonwil> since you just removed maemosec-certman-common-ca
Aug 27 12:06:52 <jonwil> Ok, great
Aug 27 12:07:07 <jonwil> Now that you have nothing in /etc/certs/blacklist, /etc/certs/common-ca and /etc/secure/s you can do dpkg -i maemosec-certman-common-ca_0.2.9_all.deb and reinstall the package
Aug 27 12:07:21 <jonwil> That will give you a 100% clean set of certificates matching the latest version.
Aug 27 12:07:36 <sicelo> installing
Aug 27 12:09:39 <sicelo> going to need a reboot, i guess :-/
Aug 27 12:09:43 <DocScrutinizer05> ~#maemo clean certs is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2017-08-27.log.html#t2017-08-27T15:00:19
Aug 27 12:09:43 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: okay
Aug 27 12:10:36 <DocScrutinizer05> ~clean certs
Aug 27 12:10:36 * infobot nukes certs's room and says to certs: Und zie problem is solved
Aug 27 12:10:45 <DocScrutinizer05> ~fu
Aug 27 12:10:45 <infobot> FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Aug 27 12:11:16 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget #maemo clean certs
Aug 27 12:11:16 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i forgot #maemo clean certs
Aug 27 12:11:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ~#maemo clean-certs is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2017-08-27.log.html#t2017-08-27T15:00:19
Aug 27 12:11:27 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: okay
Aug 27 12:11:35 <DocScrutinizer05> ~clean-certs
Aug 27 12:11:35 <infobot> hmm... clean-certs is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2017-08-27.log.html#t2017-08-27T15:00:19
Aug 27 12:16:35 <jonwil> If this still doesn't work or if it stops working again, I am all out of ideas.
Aug 27 12:17:00 <jonwil> Short of cloning location-proxy (not easy) and adding a bunch of debugs to it to see whats going on.
Aug 27 12:19:33 <jonwil> and no I am not going to clone location-proxy :P
Aug 27 12:24:05 <sicelo> no gps lock yet :-/
Aug 27 12:24:31 <sicelo> let me t me check something
Aug 27 12:45:46 <sicelo> ok my N900 is sick .. i'll investigate a little later
Aug 27 15:04:01 <sicelo> a-gps working again. hope it lasts
Aug 27 17:04:04 <luke-jr> Pali: poke, you still maintain kdepim-noakonadi?
Aug 27 17:04:25 <Pali> luke-jr: probably yes
Aug 27 17:08:08 <luke-jr> Pali: I got latest kdepimlibs 4 to build without akonadi. It breaks kalarm from noakonadi though.
Aug 27 17:08:46 <luke-jr> also apparently some gpgme stuff in https://github.com/a17r/kdepim/commits/noakonadi
Aug 27 17:12:17 <Pali> it is rebased my branch on top of the last kdepim?
Aug 27 17:12:28 <Pali> or what does it mean latest kdepim 4?
Aug 27 17:15:36 <luke-jr> kdepimlibs 4.14.10_p20160611 as in Gentoo
Aug 27 17:15:55 <Pali> kdepim or kdepimlibs?
Aug 27 17:15:59 <luke-jr> the latter
Aug 27 17:16:20 <luke-jr> based on https://github.com/a17r/kdepimlibs/tree/KDE/4.14
Aug 27 17:16:42 <luke-jr> my branch is https://github.com/luke-jr/kdepimlibs/tree/noakonadi
Aug 27 17:17:01 <Pali> ok, I have not modified kdepimlibs, just kdepim
Aug 27 17:17:11 <Pali> as kdepimlibs worked without akonadi server...
Aug 27 17:17:35 <luke-jr> it required akonadi to build
Aug 27 17:17:41 <luke-jr> which conflicted with KDE 5 stuff :/
Aug 27 17:17:49 <Pali> yes, client libraries were required
Aug 27 17:22:50 <luke-jr> anyhow, got rid of that
Aug 27 19:41:32 <TheKit> I updated libplayback pull request after Pali comments earlier, not sure if there were notifications
Aug 27 19:42:00 <Pali> github does not send any notification after git's force push
Aug 27 19:45:15 <Pali> I do not see any obvious error, deb package is successfuly created in scratchbox and contains all needed files (like original nokia package), then no problem from my side
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