**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 01 03:00:01 2017
Sep 01 03:43:58 <paijo> Helloo
Sep 01 03:44:03 <paijo> Need help
Sep 01 03:44:17 <paijo> How to update NTP server?
Sep 01 03:44:33 <paijo> My datetime not autommatically update
Sep 01 04:50:46 <Oksana> paijo : Go to Settings -> Date and Time -> Update automatically, then it will be able to get datetime from cellular tower (if your operator supports that)
Sep 01 07:11:22 <freemangordon> it is ready :) https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-plugins-notify-sv
Sep 01 07:28:21 <bencoh> yay :)
Sep 01 07:30:37 <Wizzup> freemangordon: since we're waiting on devuan for awhile parazyd and I will just set up the stuff for CI and builds on our machines until they (Devuan) are ready
Sep 01 07:30:58 <Wizzup> did you see my msg from a few days ago on how to continue in an organised manner even if the CI is not ready? that's been difficult for me
Sep 01 08:16:03 <DocScrutinizer05> paijo left, anyway maemo5 per default doesn't use NTP, it's using datetime from cellular like Oksana already implied
Sep 01 08:38:25 <sicelo> did N810 have ntp? (default, that is)
Sep 01 09:10:17 <DocScrutinizer05> nfc
Sep 01 09:10:25 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly not
Sep 01 13:11:04 <ShadowJK> It did not have ntp by default.
Sep 01 13:13:33 <freemangordon_> Wizzup: yep, setting up local builds make sense, after all there is lots of work to be done packaging wise
Sep 01 13:13:58 <freemangordon_> Wizzup: sorry, seems I've missed your message from few days ago
Sep 01 13:16:51 <freemangordon_> Wizzup: I can't find anything from you in the logs for the last 7 days
Sep 01 13:39:50 <Wizzup> 11:30 < Wizzup> freemangordon: can you summarise what things I can do for the .deb packages while the build infra is being worked on. I wanted the build infra in place because I figured that would provide a more organised grounds than just fetching and locally building+packaging the maemo pkgs
Sep 01 15:59:48 <freemangordon> Wizzup: well, first of all is package release management, read debian/changelog and debian/control
Sep 01 16:00:17 <freemangordon> and pushing to autobuilder
Sep 01 16:00:57 <freemangordon> ofc, package porting, if you feel you have will and spare time :)
Sep 01 16:01:12 <Wizzup> OK
Sep 01 16:01:13 <freemangordon> I don;t think anything else is needed atm
Sep 01 16:01:14 <Wizzup> Do we keep a list?
Sep 01 16:01:23 <freemangordon> list of?
Sep 01 16:01:39 <freemangordon> packages to be build?
Sep 01 16:02:07 <Wizzup> Yeah, for example
Sep 01 16:02:11 <Wizzup> So I can just pick a few and work on it
Sep 01 16:02:56 <freemangordon> no. My idea is - start with gtk, release it and push it to .. CI?
Sep 01 16:03:10 <freemangordon> I am still not get used to devuan terms :)
Sep 01 16:04:28 <freemangordon> then, try to build hildon-desktop on an "empty" devuan VM console only, that has devuan-maemo repos added in /etc/apt/sources
Sep 01 16:04:49 <freemangordon> you'll get all the needed dependencies
Sep 01 16:05:13 <freemangordon> then, release and put to CI those dependencies, etc, etc
Sep 01 16:05:31 <freemangordon> if you have better idea, please share
Sep 01 16:06:23 <freemangordon> Wizzup: also, we need -mr0 packages in the repo as well
Sep 01 16:06:47 <freemangordon> and at least one theme, not sure what license have alpha and beta
Sep 01 16:09:12 <freemangordon> Wizzup: most, if not all of the packages on https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2 have gtk2 branch, that branch is what you need
Sep 01 16:13:18 <Wizzup> Ok!
Sep 01 16:14:53 <freemangordon> Wizzup: if you need CPU power, I guess I can share some VM with 4 I5 cores/4GB RAM on my PC
Sep 01 16:15:05 <Wizzup> Should be fine
Sep 01 16:15:57 <freemangordon> BTW, where do you plan to put the build packages? on maemo infra?
Sep 01 16:20:35 <Wizzup> *shrug* I have plenty of infra, don't care about it
Sep 01 16:20:43 <Wizzup> depends on Pali 
Sep 01 16:20:45 <Wizzup> er..
Sep 01 16:20:46 <Wizzup> depends on parazyd 
Sep 01 16:22:44 <freemangordon> Wizzup: what os you want on the VM?
Sep 01 16:23:06 <freemangordon> ubuntu? devuan?
Sep 01 16:23:26 <freemangordon> and how much disk space?
Sep 01 16:25:13 <Wizzup> I don't need a vm on maemo infra at this point
Sep 01 16:25:17 <Wizzup> Let's not do that just yet
Sep 01 16:30:19 <freemangordon> Wizzup: oh, I meant on my PC
Sep 01 17:17:59 <freemangordon> Wizzup: oh, and please share repo url once it is setup :)
Sep 01 18:23:52 <Wizzup> definitely.
Sep 01 19:04:23 <freemangordon> parazyd: there is devuan jessie sunxi image?
Sep 01 19:06:30 <freemangordon> Pali: hi! are you still short on maemo porting time?
Sep 01 19:07:46 <Pali> hi! what do you mean?
Sep 01 19:09:12 <freemangordon> I mean bringing maemo to de**an. It will be nice if there is at least one more dev :)
Sep 01 19:10:38 <Pali> right... but currently I do not have free time :-(
Sep 01 19:11:15 <freemangordon> yeah, thus my question "still short ..."
Sep 01 19:12:29 <freemangordon> did you see I finished hildon-plugins-notify-sv? It actually works on amd64, besides on n900
Sep 01 19:13:01 <freemangordon> it is weird to hear "Incomming mail" notification comming from a VM :)
Sep 01 19:14:33 <freemangordon> Wizzup: BTW, one note - I think we'll need at least 2 separate repos - one for base system and one for applications
Sep 01 19:15:03 <freemangordon> like xterm, modest, dunno what else
Sep 01 19:16:02 <Pali> yes, I saw hildon-plugins-notify
Sep 01 19:18:19 <Wizzup> freemangordon: agreed
Sep 01 19:23:53 <parazyd> freemangordon: there is, yes
Sep 01 19:24:17 <parazyd> freemangordon: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/embedded/
Sep 01 19:24:32 <freemangordon> parazyd: any instruction on how to be used? as I wrote it to uSD card, but nothing happens on reboot, it just boot to android
Sep 01 19:25:17 <parazyd> the readme is there. the images themselves don't have u-boot on them. you can either use a precompiled one offered there, or compile your own
Sep 01 19:25:28 <parazyd> i'm not sure what device you're trying to boot on
Sep 01 19:25:37 <freemangordon> allwinner a30
Sep 01 19:26:12 <freemangordon> yeah, I guess the problem is that image does not follow the needed layout
Sep 01 19:26:33 <parazyd> partition layout you mean?
Sep 01 19:26:49 <parazyd> there is /boot on p1 (vfat), and / on p2 (ext4)
Sep 01 19:27:06 <parazyd> zImage and dtbs are in /boot
Sep 01 19:27:09 <freemangordon> but see here http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SD_card
Sep 01 19:27:27 <freemangordon> it needs spl and u-boot
Sep 01 19:27:48 <parazyd> is that A30 specific? because this image booted for me on a couple of A20 boards
Sep 01 19:28:26 <parazyd> the u-boots are board-specific
Sep 01 19:28:39 <freemangordon> I doubt it is specific to A30
Sep 01 19:28:40 <parazyd> so you need to compile one for yourself and dd it
Sep 01 19:29:17 <parazyd>  dd if=u-boot-sunxi-with-spl.bin of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1024 seek=8 && sync
Sep 01 19:29:24 <parazyd> ^ in this manner
Sep 01 19:29:33 <freemangordon> in android?
Sep 01 19:29:44 <parazyd> the sd card
Sep 01 19:29:56 <freemangordon> but there is image on it already
Sep 01 19:30:08 <freemangordon> I mean devuan image
Sep 01 19:30:13 <parazyd> yes, and now you dd the bootloader in front of it
Sep 01 19:30:21 <freemangordon> ah, ok
Sep 01 19:30:24 <freemangordon> thanks
Sep 01 19:30:45 <parazyd> np. let me know if you get stuck.
Sep 01 19:30:56 <freemangordon> ok
Sep 01 19:31:07 <parazyd> the image has a mainline kernel, and a mainline u-boot config (take a look at the first partition of the image)
Sep 01 19:31:34 <freemangordon> hmm, seems I have q8_a33_tablet_1024x600_defconfig :)
Sep 01 19:31:48 <freemangordon> this is what I used to build kernel
Sep 01 19:32:10 <parazyd> yeah i think those dtbs are in the image already
Sep 01 19:32:17 <parazyd> u-boot however, no
Sep 01 19:33:06 <parazyd> i didn't figure out how to trigger uSD boot on that tablet though (not that i tried much though)
Sep 01 19:34:03 <freemangordon> It should boot by itself once it finds the correct stuff there iiuc
Sep 01 19:35:11 <parazyd> alright
Sep 01 19:37:20 <freemangordon> parazyd: YEAH, IT BOOTED. I have devuan login :)
Sep 01 19:37:28 <parazyd> ah awesome 
Sep 01 19:37:38 <parazyd> which u-boot have you compiled?
Sep 01 19:37:44 <freemangordon> what is the password? toor?
Sep 01 19:37:47 <parazyd> root:toor
Sep 01 19:37:50 <parazyd> yes
Sep 01 19:37:52 <freemangordon> can't remember
Sep 01 19:37:57 * freemangordon chacks
Sep 01 19:38:01 <freemangordon> *checks
Sep 01 19:38:37 <freemangordon> parazyd: 
Sep 01 19:38:39 <freemangordon> [remote "origin"]
Sep 01 19:38:39 <freemangordon> 	url = git://git.denx.de/u-boot.git
Sep 01 19:38:44 <freemangordon> upstream
Sep 01 19:38:54 <parazyd> great! thanks
Sep 01 19:39:18 <parazyd> i can host those bins too on files.devuan.org then :)
Sep 01 19:39:29 <freemangordon> hmm, usb doesn't seem to work with that kernel
Sep 01 19:39:36 <parazyd> O.o
Sep 01 19:39:39 <freemangordon> it worked with mine
Sep 01 19:39:53 <freemangordon> I can share that defconfig
Sep 01 19:39:58 <parazyd> please do
Sep 01 19:40:05 <parazyd> this is a slightly modded sunxi_defconfig
Sep 01 19:40:14 <DocScrutinizer05> ~#devuan raspi login
Sep 01 19:40:14 <infobot> methinks #devuan raspi login is pw toor https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-03/?msg=65351755&page=3
Sep 01 19:42:05 <parazyd> https://git.devuan.org/sdk/arm-sdk/raw/next/boards/kernel-configs/sunxi.config
Sep 01 19:42:07 <freemangordon> hmm, actually this is defconfig for u-boot
Sep 01 19:42:19 <freemangordon> I need to find kernel confg
Sep 01 19:48:56 <freemangordon> dammit. cannot find which kernel tree I used :(
Sep 01 20:01:14 <freemangordon> ok, found it
Sep 01 20:03:29 <freemangordon> parazyd: I have .config for 4.9.0-rc6
Sep 01 20:03:46 <parazyd> i'll take that :)
Sep 01 20:05:19 <freemangordon> parazyd: http://46.249.74.23/allwinner/kernel/
Sep 01 20:05:28 <freemangordon> lemme share dts as well
Sep 01 20:06:22 <parazyd> fantastic, thank you!
Sep 01 20:06:32 <freemangordon> it is there
Sep 01 20:07:39 <parazyd> ack
Sep 01 20:07:51 <freemangordon> parazyd: with that dts and kernel I have 3d accelleration with mali driver
Sep 01 20:08:38 <parazyd> :))
Sep 01 20:09:16 <parazyd> i'll give it a shot when i'm back in town and have the tablet at hand
Sep 01 20:09:25 <freemangordon> this is where I get touchscreen firmware (extractor?!?) from https://github.com/jabjoe/sunxi-gslx680
Sep 01 20:09:38 <freemangordon> it's been a while and my memory is aging :)
Sep 01 20:10:35 <parazyd> oh this is pretty useful
Sep 01 20:11:22 <freemangordon> the mali driver I built on the tablet itself iirc
Sep 01 20:11:36 <freemangordon> the same for the X driver
Sep 01 20:11:49 <parazyd> in android?
Sep 01 20:14:21 <freemangordon> no, in devuan
Sep 01 20:15:38 * freemangordon is afk
Sep 01 20:29:31 <parazyd> oh ok
Sep 01 20:29:43 <parazyd> good to know
Sep 01 21:07:54 <Wikiwide> Not sure exactly what was the change, maybe switch fromactivesync mail to imap mail, but uptime is 2 days again (well, almost: 1 day 23 hours 21 minutes; but it's possible it will stay switched on for 40 more minutes).
Sep 01 21:20:03 <Wikiwide> Some time ago, uptime used to be around 1 day.
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