**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 16 03:00:01 2017 Sep 16 08:56:09 what do you think of Librem 5 phone? Will it success and be as open as it advertises? Sep 16 09:27:35 thanks for bringing it to my attention Sep 16 09:29:23 Vajb: do you know why they aren't using mer, sfos, etc? Sep 16 09:32:57 sfos has enough closed-source parts, such as UI Sep 16 09:33:18 seriously? Sep 16 09:35:34 yes, they long promised to open it eventually, but it's still not Sep 16 09:36:05 though big part of it is written in QML which is keept in plain text and so interface itself can be modified Sep 16 09:36:35 are they lazy or fear copycats? Sep 16 09:37:06 something to do with inverstors Sep 16 09:43:02 blap: i know only what i have read from their page. Sep 16 09:44:33 but from the table they compare it to apple and android, would N900 got some yes answers also? Sep 16 09:44:55 i like to think that i control this device at least Sep 16 09:45:38 don't have any trackers that i know of. Though they are not disabled by default Sep 16 10:06:06 i don't like the idea of too much ecosystem fragmentation Sep 16 10:06:40 couldn't they use mer/fremantle? Sep 16 10:09:31 maybe they didn't know it excists Sep 16 10:09:48 or because it is used alreay Sep 16 10:10:08 gtg bbl **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 17 03:00:01 2017