**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 26 03:00:03 2017 Sep 26 03:01:28 hm Sep 26 03:01:54 i wonder if my stupid telekom router can route one of my numbers to my sip client on laptop Sep 26 03:02:30 did you build Ring for maemo LjL ? Sep 26 03:03:10 no, honestly i didn't even think of that. once it's usable on Android without keeping wifi on all the time... Sep 26 03:03:39 my ISP's router uses SIP internally but there's no way to "grab" it that doesn't involve ugly stuff like arp poisoning Sep 26 03:08:59 ah Sep 26 03:09:11 i don't even know if sip traffic is visible on the lan side Sep 26 03:09:36 doubt it Sep 26 03:10:45 it lets me assign the incoming calls to physical sockets Sep 26 03:24:23 no, you usually can't access that. It's SIP but not "public". Unless your ISP/telco provides the SIP data/credentials there's hardly any chance to log in any other SIP client than the "TerminalAdapter" ModemRouter thing.your router might offer local SIP clients via (W)LAN and you *could* attach a B2BUA like asterisk to that and log in / connect to it via your regular internet access Sep 26 03:31:30 lame Sep 26 03:31:51 the cellphone could be a wlan+sip phone that rings with your regular number Sep 26 03:48:25 mine is Sep 26 03:48:44 my regular number is with sipgate.de Sep 26 03:51:09 since times of twinklephone-0.4 Sep 26 03:56:50 if you only want VoIP (without access/gateway to PSTN aka "telephone"), you also could check what https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekiga does meanwhile. Back when I wasn't happy with them, poor service not really compatible with the refernce SIP softphone implementation (twinkle ;.D ) Sep 26 03:58:23 IOW their registrar only worked with their UA software Sep 26 04:09:27 and the maemo SIP client worked even with N810 / maemo4 Sep 26 04:09:40 s/with/since/ Sep 26 04:09:40 DocScrutinizer05 meant: and the maemo SIP client worked even since N810 / maemo4 Sep 26 04:49:32 which is more likely to cause segfaults, cpu or memory issues? Sep 26 04:50:05 memory Sep 26 04:50:24 that's what i thought... Sep 26 04:50:43 though the question sounds pretty much failing the point Sep 26 04:51:12 it was not n900 related Sep 26 04:51:31 segfaults on PC are 95% PSU and/or mainboard buffer caps, and only 5% CPU&RAM Sep 26 04:51:55 i upgraded both in my desktop and segfaults started Sep 26 04:52:55 my point stands. Faster CPU/RAM is more sensitive to crappy noisy power supply Sep 26 04:53:30 yes that does stand Sep 26 04:53:54 and you wouldn't believe how often I found a sloppy RAM or CPU insertion into their sockets caused trouble Sep 26 04:54:44 you'd think that thing never could run with half of the RAM pins not inserted to the socker, but it does, just degfaults like mad Sep 26 04:55:41 socket & segfaults* Sep 26 04:56:58 my "recent" issues with constant IO errors on my HDD RAID1 turned out to be caused by the 60ct worth Y-cable in power supply Sep 26 04:57:38 run a memtest! Sep 26 04:58:12 every decent linux installer DVD has one Sep 26 05:04:25 i have case open so i was thinking just to pull each mem off and try if segfaults stops Sep 26 06:08:04 * enyc meeps Sep 26 10:23:23 hi Sep 26 11:14:38 Okay, this channel works. Sep 26 11:16:04 Anybody knows how cellular 3G Internet works? Sep 26 11:17:35 I had Optus SIM card in my N900, used its Internet. Now I have a Vodafone PennyTel SIM card in my N900. Still, N900 has Optus Internet working. Is it really Optus internet working somehow, or is it Vodafone Internet? Sep 26 13:15:57 Oksana: for sure Vodafone now Sep 26 13:18:07 though, *IF* Optus uses the same band (minutes reseller of Vodafone) then they possibly work both and your APN settings still are on Optus Sep 26 13:22:20 ask jonwil Sep 26 13:22:57 smscb which also handles carrier headline iirc Sep 26 14:47:55 what do you think about 'ring'? https://ring.cx/ Sep 26 21:22:14 okay first pics incomming https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B260T5Oj5DtQZVh4NmwtNVI4c28 Sep 26 21:22:14 hildon on nexus flo Sep 26 21:22:20 it works with freedreno Sep 27 00:48:06 DocScrutinizer05: i just wrote this command: ps xao pid,ppid|perl -ne 'next unless s/ 0$//; print'|sort -nr|xargs -n1 pstree -uap Sep 27 00:48:21 because the obvious command `pstree -uap` didn't work :o Sep 27 00:48:53 * timeless wonders if anyone can guess why the obvious command failed / why the less obvious command worked Sep 27 01:02:30 * timeless sighs Sep 27 01:02:38 linux tools are weird Sep 27 01:53:21 timeless: sorry, no idea Sep 27 01:53:34 DocScrutinizer05: lxd/lxc Sep 27 01:53:44 ooh Sep 27 01:53:50 the container has a root process (1) Sep 27 01:53:51 blame systemd ;-P Sep 27 01:53:59 nah, not actually systemd's fault Sep 27 01:54:15 but whenever one "attaches" an extra instance into the lxc, it isn't rooted to (1) Sep 27 01:54:23 it's just "poofed" into existence Sep 27 01:55:01 * timeless is trying to figure out the easiest way to get a mail system working in this lxc thing Sep 27 01:55:22 basically, i have a cron session which runs a fairly fancy script, and i want to know that the script is working Sep 27 01:55:30 normally, cron would send email for output Sep 27 01:55:55 but... this lxc doesn't have a mail system configured, and my naive attempt at configuring debian-exim failed miserably Sep 27 01:56:32 (I need /etc/passwd and /etc/group to be symlinks to elsewhere, because what I'm actually doing is rsync-backing-up another computer and i want to be able to see the usernames/groups from that other computer) Sep 27 01:56:52 (that other computer doesn't have Debian-exim, so [debian] exim4 refuses to work) Sep 27 02:50:17 turns out, setting up what i wanted for email w/ postfix was trivial :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 27 03:00:00 2017