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Oct 28 03:59:55 <Maxdamantus> Oh, I think I realised something regarding the issues I have with escape closing the terminal.
Oct 28 04:01:07 <Maxdamantus> Last time I was discussing it here someone else said they didn't seem to experience the terminal closing while holding escape .. but the default layout doesn't have an escape key, so that person was presumably just holding the "Esc" button in osso-xterm.
Oct 28 04:01:35 <Maxdamantus> at least, I don't think it normally has an escape key.
Oct 28 04:03:09 <Maxdamantus> Anyway, pretty sure it's hildon's fault, since it doesn't happen when running a different WM (but still running osso-xterm)
Oct 28 04:04:28 <Maxdamantus> ah, it was bencoh, who said he had mapped something to be escape.
Oct 28 08:18:13 <Vajb> is there a difference between escape key and button?
Oct 28 08:18:40 <Vajb> i have Esc in terminal by default
Oct 28 08:18:52 <Vajb> but i guess that is the button then
Oct 28 08:19:14 <Vajb> it works as alt in irssi...
Oct 28 08:19:48 <Vajb> and just tested. I can't close xterm with it.
Oct 28 08:46:08 <Maxdamantus> Well, the issue I have is that holding escape closes the osso-xterm window.
Oct 28 08:46:18 <Maxdamantus> It also applies to some other applications, like qmpc.
Oct 28 08:47:11 <Maxdamantus> It's not necessarily a matter of holding it though .. it's extremely easy to trigger it to close osso-xterm when using vim.
Oct 28 08:47:37 <Maxdamantus> So whenever I use vim I have to consciously slow down my input.
Oct 28 08:47:49 <Maxdamantus> The problem doesn't arise when using urxvt though.
Oct 28 08:48:02 <Maxdamantus> or when using gvim.
Oct 28 11:14:23 <sunshavi> what about busybox vi. does it happens too?
Oct 28 11:58:06 <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/community/2017-October/001714.html
Oct 28 12:14:20 <Maxdamantus> sunshavi: sure, it doesn't really have to do with vi, it's just very easy to trigger while using vi.
Oct 28 12:14:33 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: yeah, I am aware of img opening their assembly language, though there is nothing I can do in that regard :)
Oct 28 12:14:45 <Maxdamantus> It happens if I just run `cat` and hold escape, or press it quickly.
Oct 28 12:17:27 <jonwil> I have seen enough inside the PowerVR blobs on the N900 to know that we shouldn't try and reverse engineer most of them.
Oct 28 12:18:26 <freemangordon> jonwil: why? too complicated I guess
Oct 28 12:18:40 <freemangordon> esp the shader compiler
Oct 28 12:19:08 <jonwil> The microcode is one of the biggest problems.
Oct 28 12:20:28 <jonwil> After you did that one blob, there is nothing left in the PowerVR drivers that holds us back in any way except possibly if we wanted to move to another ABI (i.e. go from armel to something else) and even then we could probably write some shim libraries if we really wanted to
Oct 28 13:41:42 <sunshavi> Maxdamantus: which key have you map to esc? my n900 kbd does not have ESC
Oct 28 13:42:46 <Maxdamantus> sunshavi: sym + enter, though the behaviour also occurs if I map a letter key to be escape.
Oct 28 13:43:27 <Maxdamantus> (that is, a letter key, without any modifier)
Oct 28 18:52:01 <sicelo> fg/cleanup
Oct 28 21:10:26 <DocScrutinizer51> ,/query DocScrutinizer05 
Oct 28 21:59:09 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry ^^^ - just IRC is also a convenient "sharing media" between different clients
Oct 28 22:06:43 <KotCzarny> firefox has ability to view tabs on other devices
Oct 28 22:16:16 <KotCzarny> wow, finally
Oct 28 22:53:30 <sixwheeledbeast> thats been a feature for a while
Oct 28 23:07:34 <sicelo> finally?
Oct 28 23:09:13 <KotCzarny> that 'finally' was directed to different channel
Oct 28 23:09:14 <KotCzarny> ;)
Oct 28 23:13:43 <sicelo> :-)
Oct 28 23:13:46 <sicelo> g'nite
Oct 28 23:25:50 <sixwheeledbeast> oh
Oct 28 23:25:55 <sixwheeledbeast> nvm
Oct 28 23:26:46 <KotCzarny> still, it's a very nice feature
Oct 28 23:52:44 <DocScrutinizer05> ACL updated
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