**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 11 03:00:02 2017 Nov 11 05:17:54 opt1mus: All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? Nov 11 09:01:12 Under what conditions does Camera app duplicate itself, freeze (to the point that Ctrl+Backspace command shows image being cropped, instead of resized, in camera's viewfinder), and generally become unresponsive? Nov 11 09:02:08 I experienced it today after changing battery. I haven't encountered this problem in a while. It was made worse by general slowness of response of software. Nov 11 09:15:38 Wikiwide: ime it gets worse with a larger DCIM directory. Nov 11 09:15:52 but I think it can happen regardless. Nov 11 10:35:02 Wikiwide: I *think* this is related to an unknown bug in DSP. IIRC Pali or freemangordon know more details Nov 11 10:36:21 I witnessed similar symptoms especially while shooting movies Nov 11 11:00:42 Yes, I was trying to shoot a movie when this happened. And my DCIM directory is quite large, with a "never delete, unless this image is boring _and_ was already emailed somewhen" policy Nov 11 11:06:22 I suspect moving things out of the DCIM directory would have a massive improvement. Nov 11 11:07:16 Hmm, so it's not a tracker issue, it may be a strictly DCIM issue? Nov 11 11:07:28 * Maxdamantus wrote a small script that moves things into separate directories based on month. Nov 11 11:08:11 Dunno if tracker contributes to it, but I don't use tracker and I remember having that issue pretty badly until I cleaned out DCIM. Nov 11 11:10:13 (and by "cleaned out", I just mean moving the files to another directory) Nov 11 11:10:44 Presumably so camera-ui doesn't have to scan over them or something, dunno. Nov 11 11:12:33 as for viewing the images again, I use QImageViewer from the repository, which seems to be a lot nicer at dealing with changing directories than the normal "Photos" application. Nov 11 11:41:24 it might be tracker as well. I'm not sure. But a scenario of swap hell is plausible, when the camera process allocates buffers for the data pending to get written, and the system swaps out stuff to make space for those buffers, but the buffers can only get flushed when the storage bandwidth isn't hogged by the swap process anymore --> deadlock Nov 11 11:43:04 this is a quite common scenario when a process constantly tries to write data at a rate not available from the system in current state. Swap kicks in and aggravates the situation Nov 11 11:44:43 a system may run for hours at a IO write rate close to the bandwith limit, and occasionally one other process add a tiny additional load to IO and that makes the whole system going over the top Nov 11 16:01:59 is anyone else unable to rotate the screen using xrandr in an alternate distro? Nov 11 17:55:57 Hi on my n900 sms messages just get showed after restart. Seems the service (daemon) rtcom-messaging (whatever) is not running. Any idea how to start the service? Nov 11 17:57:23 starting manually won't solve any problems Nov 11 17:58:07 there's a reason (called "problem") why any service isn't running though it usually should Nov 11 17:58:15 mmm. this package seems close sourced. So no any pkg for reinstalling it Nov 11 17:58:37 flashing my only option? Nov 11 17:58:57 given the root cause of the problem is completely unclear, yes Nov 11 17:59:14 thanks Docscrutinizer05 Nov 11 17:59:33 though I'd recommend a few other approaches first Nov 11 17:59:43 i am all ears Nov 11 17:59:57 it's not unheard of that weird SMS content made services segfault Nov 11 17:59:58 btw i have 2 n900s Nov 11 18:00:22 rtcom-messaging-ui dissapeared from the phone root partition Nov 11 18:00:36 i have cp'd files from the second n900 Nov 11 18:01:19 this rt-messaging-ui is web based. would be nice a gtk one Nov 11 18:02:45 those messages that r not showed (they are stored on my phone) (or the cellular provider has them stored)? Nov 11 18:02:55 also a "ls -l /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db" might be worth it Nov 11 18:03:54 database is present but not updated Nov 11 18:04:19 delete it Nov 11 18:05:56 done Nov 11 18:07:52 should i restart or send an sms to the phone from another phone? Nov 11 18:09:39 el-v1.db gets restored pristine during next boot Nov 11 18:09:47 http://paste.opensuse.org/17050890 Nov 11 18:09:53 ^^^ for reference Nov 11 18:10:24 so reboot, then send test SMS Nov 11 18:11:48 I guess /home/user/.rtcom-messaging-ui/draft.db might be the template for el-v1.db Nov 11 18:11:51 i do not have locate installed. should i install it? Nov 11 18:12:28 nah, a find / -name '*rtcom-messaging-ui*' -ls will do Nov 11 18:12:46 will take ages though Nov 11 18:13:59 and actually it doesn't provide much relevant info to you that is not already in http://paste.opensuse.org/17050890 Nov 11 18:14:13 ~pkg Nov 11 18:14:13 i guess pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ Nov 11 18:17:03 http://termbin.com/18sq Nov 11 18:17:31 going to restart the phone Nov 11 18:18:04 http://paste.opensuse.org/42629188 Nov 11 18:18:29 you got /usr/bin/rtcom-messaging-ui and /usr/bin/rtcom-messaging-ui.launch Nov 11 18:19:38 this looks suspicious: /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/rtcom-messaging-ui.tgz Nov 11 18:21:12 that is the one i brought from my other n900 phone Nov 11 18:21:18 http://termbin.com/wmlh Nov 11 18:21:45 do you have the deb pkg? Nov 11 18:22:05 it's in repo Nov 11 18:22:53 seems sth messed up your system thoroughly, though Nov 11 18:23:30 no idea how it can be "not installed" on your N900 Nov 11 18:23:43 mmm. the repo urls are in /etc/...? Nov 11 18:23:57 the repo urls are in HAM Nov 11 18:24:02 ~jrrepos Nov 11 18:24:03 jrrepos is, like, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ Nov 11 18:31:30 you're not, by any mishap, using fapman? Nov 11 18:31:45 * CatButts perks ears Nov 11 18:32:15 ...or decided to answer "yes" when apt.get suggested to uninstall a 23 dozen packages? Nov 11 18:32:49 probably yes, my root partition was full Nov 11 18:33:05 this n900 has a broken screen Nov 11 18:33:21 looking for the command for opening an url from cli on my notes Nov 11 18:34:17 hmm ouch. Than won't help since HAM will ask you to nod off, after you clicked the URL Nov 11 18:34:27 Taht* Nov 11 18:34:30 meh Nov 11 18:34:52 found it Nov 11 18:36:01 ~fapman Nov 11 18:36:01 i guess fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam Nov 11 18:36:41 ~hamvsfam Nov 11 18:36:42 well, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 Nov 11 19:00:59 thanks DocScrutinizer05 Nov 11 19:01:40 i have another question. which is the file i should replace from command line for changing the selected ring tone? Nov 11 19:31:18 sunshavi: that's a very tricy one Nov 11 19:31:31 needs edits in at least 3 places Nov 11 19:32:37 sunshavi: what's wrong with your display? Nov 11 19:39:48 says it's broken. maybe physically :-/ Nov 11 19:40:29 not broken. But I can not extract one of the bolts Nov 11 19:40:44 ah Nov 11 19:41:44 so removing the bolt not possible (what is the word one you can not remove the bolt cos the tool has not grip on the bolt?) Nov 11 19:43:16 DocScrutinizer05: replacing the file in three places looks nice to me. as everything is going to be done with just one touch Nov 11 19:43:57 and also for having custom sounds for the alarm. i could have a cron changing the sound before the alarm fires Nov 11 22:07:51 sunshavi: why don't you use the UI for all that? Nov 11 22:08:57 >>have a cron changing the sound before the alarm fires<< is so terribly wrong, it's not how maemo works Nov 11 22:11:16 http://paste.opensuse.org/10012587 Nov 11 22:52:37 DocScrutinizer05: But. There is no way of changing a different mp3 file for every alarm Nov 11 22:58:05 sunshavi: alarmed -t "17:30" --exec "playsound some.wav" Nov 12 00:00:58 DocScrutinizer05: which is the pkg that gives alarmed? Nov 12 00:29:25 sunshavi : alarmed? A 'cron-like' GUI scheduling and automation app for many common and custom actions Nov 12 00:33:50 ~pkg Nov 12 00:33:50 i guess pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ Nov 12 00:34:37 courtesy shapeshifter Nov 12 00:34:56 iirc Nov 12 00:37:24 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/alarmed/0.3.0-1/ could use promotion to extras-testing Nov 12 00:37:55 alarmed weight 20 Mb Nov 12 00:38:12 root partition is going to be hurted Nov 12 00:38:22 cron seems a light solution Nov 12 00:39:51 is alarmed optified? Nov 12 00:47:22 IroN900:~# ls -l `which alarmed` Nov 12 00:47:24 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2014-12-06 12:41 /usr/bin/alarmed -> /opt/alarmed/alarmed.py Nov 12 00:47:40 this link might be the only missing part in alarmed Nov 12 00:48:50 mayve you might want to wait for promotion to testing trickling down Nov 12 00:49:01 then give it a vote, after testing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Nov 12 03:00:02 2017