**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 23 03:00:02 2017 Nov 23 05:10:49 hmmmm Nov 23 05:11:55 could I, on maemo, have a program that creates a window configured in specific way Nov 23 05:12:09 and makes a target program use it on launch? Nov 23 05:13:02 post-launch wmctrl has failed Nov 23 05:13:42 wmctrl -r :SELECT: -b toggle,fullscreen Nov 23 05:14:07 the program becomes fullscreen, but misbehaves with old dimensions Nov 23 05:14:24 maybe I could force it before window init Nov 23 05:14:33 programatically Nov 23 05:17:23 ohmy. you know how X11 works? youp process defines a data structure with values for X, Y, Pos etc and then cals X11 or the mangers in between to create such a window. And - as I said - hildon doesn't support non-fullscreen windows Nov 23 05:22:26 I am new to the land of the Linux Nov 23 05:22:35 very new Nov 23 05:23:39 well, I don't want non-fullscreen windows Nov 23 05:24:01 I want to reliably force an application to not have the damned bar at the top Nov 23 05:24:48 which might not be possible from inside with non-fullscreen apps Nov 23 05:24:51 errrr Nov 23 05:24:58 with precompiled apps Nov 23 05:40:19 yes, that might get tricky Nov 23 20:46:21 new hacky translator. Wordlist and custom shell script :) Nov 23 21:03:35 http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/screenshot01.png Nov 23 21:03:48 I know running stuff from sudo is a sin Nov 23 21:04:03 but this is at least usable :P Nov 23 21:04:43 the theme changes drastically under sudo Nov 23 21:05:01 I am looking at you, KeePassX **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 24 03:00:02 2017