**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 03 03:00:01 2017 Dec 03 05:41:52 Highly annoyed. Insert memory card into N900, Bluetooth some files from it to laptop, battery goes down, "soft" shutdown with "Recharge battery" notification and LED pattern... After changing the battery and booting, fsck is going on, apparently delaying mounting of both MyDocs and memory card. Dec 03 05:43:30 Or else it's just not noticing the memory card yet. Dec 03 05:44:31 One classical bug is how many things keyboard-related start working only after MyDocs is mounted. Dec 03 05:51:55 How does one shoot 1.23 GB video with 640x320 resolution onto 2GB memory card? Possible but takes patience. Dec 03 05:53:22 Transferring it is slow, even over WiFi. Dec 03 05:57:46 Test Dec 03 05:59:43 Sftp is stalled despite presence of Internet. Dec 03 13:16:41 eh :) Dec 03 13:16:52 its a removable memory card, why not remove it :P lol Dec 03 16:54:02 how do I go about changing file associations on the n900? Dec 03 16:55:18 I'm mucking around in /usr/share/applications, but with little results Dec 03 17:06:17 i think i saw /usr/share/applications/defaults.list , or /usr/share/applications/hildon/defaults.list (which i think was a symbolic link) Dec 03 17:06:55 MaemoButts: ^ Dec 03 17:25:19 the first Dec 03 17:41:56 wait Dec 03 17:42:19 * MaemoButts waits Dec 03 17:43:18 http://wiki.maemo.org/Mime_Types#Using_hildon-mime-open might help Dec 03 17:45:03 actually whole page http://wiki.maemo.org/Mime_Types Dec 03 17:48:31 there's also a command update-mimetypes or the like, which might need to run to update some cache or whatever. Please read the manpages etc, I have no clue Dec 03 17:49:23 http://paste.opensuse.org/58754165 Dec 03 17:50:52 man update-mime-database Dec 03 17:51:49 this is going to be fun Dec 03 17:55:12 on an unrelated note, I don't think n900's keypad is well suited for gaming Dec 03 17:55:28 s/gaming/supaplex Dec 03 17:56:05 N900 is no gaming console Dec 03 17:56:31 get a N-Gage ;-P Dec 03 17:57:06 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nokia-NGage-LL.jpg Dec 03 17:57:25 it can be quite close to it though :> Dec 03 17:57:28 nintendo ds Dec 03 17:57:53 if only those rubber "gamepads" were still available Dec 03 17:58:27 I am having pisspoor reaction speed in boulderdash style game Dec 03 17:59:10 wait, what? Dec 03 18:00:55 rocks n diamonds for n900 Dec 03 18:36:39 yeah n900 keyboard is no good for gaming Dec 03 18:59:37 it never been meant for that Dec 03 19:06:53 and i couldn't make my game pad to work with it either :/ Dec 03 19:07:28 or well it is actually problem with the emulator Dec 03 19:10:17 * Maxdamantus has been able to play PS1 games on it using a PS3 controller (Bluetooth) Dec 03 19:11:38 i think problem is that the emulator i wanted to play with gets input by othermeans than x window Dec 03 19:12:05 i can type in terminal and also in few apps with my current settings Dec 03 19:12:26 i mean type as with gamepad buttons Dec 03 19:22:13 Are you sure the input you generate for the emulator is not going to another window? (because of the WM_HINTS issue) Dec 03 19:29:14 pretty certain. It creates three windows while rom is running and either of those works. I tried all Dec 03 19:29:45 one thing to try would be sending keystrokes to those windows via xdo or similar app Dec 03 19:29:57 to see if it reacts to x events Dec 03 19:31:48 btw. you also heave vcc/gnd header near uart Dec 03 19:31:57 you can check with multimeter what voltage it is Dec 03 19:32:00 oops Dec 03 19:35:21 Vajb: lsof is your friend Dec 03 19:36:12 if it's a game it likely will interface to /dev/input/*whatever* directly Dec 03 19:37:58 i got controller as js0. I can map it to key presses via joy2key, but problem is that not all programs see it Dec 03 19:39:24 /dev/input/js0 to be precise Dec 03 19:39:58 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646564 Dec 03 19:40:02 quite nice tutorial Dec 03 19:43:29 that's what i used as a base ;) Dec 03 19:45:13 whats weird is it works fine when using -rawconsole or -terminal Dec 03 19:45:13 but not when using -X Dec 03 19:45:22 you might play with those options too Dec 03 19:47:06 but, the most important clue is that you can run it with -X switch (which should work) Dec 03 19:47:51 and -rawconsole is for apps that dont use x for key input Dec 03 19:49:46 firefox from a Cent OS was hyperslow on N900 when run over ssh -X . Maybe, just a troublesome site? Dec 03 19:51:45 Wikiwide: uh, oh, over wifi? Dec 03 19:52:18 you should try any accelerator for x protocol, or un vnc server in that centos and vnc client on n900 Dec 03 19:52:28 it's much more bandwidth/cpu effective Dec 03 19:56:52 run a game over ssh? wut? Dec 03 19:57:27 What game? firefox, web browser Dec 03 19:57:45 what else would Vajb need controllers for? Dec 03 19:58:05 Ah, lol. Dec 03 19:58:12 to play snes games on a go Dec 03 19:58:21 like in a buss Dec 03 19:58:30 For the record, I intend to use Pyra as tiny laptop, not for games. Dec 03 19:59:04 how does pyra come in here? Dec 03 19:59:09 but im starting to lean on a side of just playing home Dec 03 19:59:58 apropos, are they shipping? Dec 03 20:00:48 what makes the pyra worth atleast 600 Euros? Dec 03 20:02:28 i feel like my problem is related to that keyboardfocus thing which bugged bluemaemo program aswell Dec 03 20:10:16 Just mentioning that gaming hardware might be useful for something other than games. Dec 03 20:15:21 Pyra has resistive touchscreen, high-resolution display, hardware keyboard, fast CPU, maybe two batteries (don't remember exactly), maybe stylus... CPU+RAM are in replaceable module for upgradeability? Dec 03 20:15:35 Two slots for memory cards. Dec 03 20:16:37 It's like Neo900 in many things, just larger, less sensors, using more power (for LCD, CPU, and the like). Dec 03 20:19:14 and much heavier Dec 03 20:21:02 vajb: i have no bt joystick here, that's why i'm a bit unhelpful Dec 03 20:21:16 otherwise i would just hack it here Dec 03 20:22:47 well, I wouldn't hold my breath regarding CPU upgrades for Pyra Dec 03 20:23:42 the CPU module been chosen for other reasons -primarily there was no OMAP5 bare bones chip available when they started development of pyra Dec 03 20:24:53 TI thought only certified partners could successfully solder OMAP5 SoC, with the help of TI field engineers and much support by TI Dec 03 20:25:48 so for a while it wasn't clear if small projects like Pyra could _ever_ get OMAP5 SoC Dec 03 20:26:19 modules made by TI partners were announced to become available though Dec 03 20:29:21 then, you also get a better yield in production when a single failed solder joint only turns 50% of your electronics in the device into a paperweight. Plus a smaller CPU PCB is simpler to reflow-solder than a "huge" all-in-one PCB Dec 03 20:31:24 so yes, CPU+RAM module is fine for "repair" but don't hope for any significant upgrade to appear that has same interface and formfactor Dec 03 20:32:29 mind you, OMAP5 is a dead end anyway. TI won't make any OMAP6 ever, they wrapped up their embedded segment afaik Dec 03 20:33:47 which is a pity since now we are restricted to allwinner and snapdragon and shite, that all comes with severe issues either regarding open documentation or availability Dec 03 20:34:50 hehe, allwinner isnt that bad, but it's far from good battery time or performance Dec 03 20:35:32 still i suspect because it's all in one solution, prototyping could be speedy Dec 03 20:39:59 https://web.archive.org/web/20150109223408/http://pandoralive.info/?p=2808 Dec 03 20:46:00 https://web.archive.org/web/20150109223408/http://pandoralive.info/?p=2808#comment-5981 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 04 03:00:01 2017