**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 08 03:00:02 2017 Dec 08 03:38:44 how do i reset maemo wiki password? Dec 08 03:44:19 ask maintainer Dec 08 03:44:33 ~wmo Dec 08 03:44:34 hmm... wmo is http://wiki.maemo.org Dec 08 03:45:26 Sveta: user name? Dec 08 03:47:16 DocScrutinizer05: Gryllida Dec 08 03:47:19 umm sorry, "passowrds must not get edited" Dec 08 03:47:41 Can passwords be emailed? Dec 08 03:47:48 you can enable emailing of password resets Dec 08 03:48:10 there's http://susepaste.org/62540065 Dec 08 03:48:22 Or alternatively, can old account be merged with new account? Dec 08 03:48:51 this is runnign 2009 version of mediawiki Dec 08 03:50:55 yes, merge old account to new account, old account gets deleted AIUI. Then do same once more, to original username Dec 08 03:51:18 see ^^^ Dec 08 03:52:14 http://susepaste.org/22763230 Dec 08 03:56:16 Oksana: http://susepaste.org/20199248 Dec 08 03:56:21 cheers o/ Dec 08 06:18:58 what av sw do you use? Both win and linux Dec 08 06:19:50 found clamav and thinking if it is good replacement for my current avast av... Dec 08 06:32:30 None. Dec 08 06:32:53 Has always seemed like it would be ineffective to me. Dec 08 06:33:12 * Maxdamantus only uses Linux-based systems. Dec 08 06:34:31 If OSes did security the right way, they would tend to work somewhat like a web browser does. Dec 08 06:35:10 Where an application you run doesn't just get to look through all of the files visible to the person running it. Dec 08 06:50:25 maybe there is a point for virtualization too Dec 08 06:51:10 I don't think that's really necessary. Dec 08 06:51:58 Linux is perfectly capable of supporting OSes that work that way. Dec 08 06:52:45 The usual platforms just don't make use of it. Dec 08 07:15:56 yup, what maxd said Dec 08 07:16:10 if you use sw hygiene, you dont really need av Dec 08 07:16:38 wont help of course if your lan isnt safe and you use windows though Dec 08 07:16:50 lots of remote sploits Dec 08 07:17:20 but personally, i dont use av at all, if i need to check new software i use online scanners (virustotal.com) befor installing Dec 08 07:19:27 oksana: my wake up switch just worn out of the few years of use, i'm not waking it up every few minutes Dec 08 07:20:26 there is alternative to press power button then slide on screen, but i prefer to keep my power button as virgin as i can ;) Dec 08 07:32:29 Epoxy solution: https://maxdamantus.eu.org/wus.jpg Dec 08 07:33:21 you should either host on imgur or make smaller images Dec 08 07:33:22 :) Dec 08 07:33:31 Yeah, probably. Dec 08 07:33:37 nice job tho Dec 08 07:34:04 virustotal for windows programs KotCzarny? Dec 08 07:34:10 sicelo: yes Dec 08 07:34:24 it can even scan links directly, if your uplink is slow Dec 08 07:34:35 imgur solution of epoxy solution: https://i.imgur.com/2lXngDp.jpg Dec 08 07:35:22 i haven't had a windows installation (except a vm) for a while, but i think i like that solution :-) Dec 08 07:35:24 and if the file hash is already known, it wont upload at all, so works quite well Dec 08 07:36:35 it can give some false positives, because use plethora of av scanners, but it's up to you to decide which ones are trustworthy Dec 08 07:37:11 And false negatives. Dec 08 07:37:32 maxd: sure, but isnt it the same with installed av? Dec 08 07:37:41 Yes. Dec 08 07:37:53 So the proper way is to restrict what the program can do. Dec 08 07:37:56 not to mention it wont block the ones that download real threats Dec 08 07:38:56 https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/8e5ad140812edd53e5430ebeddb07a9f9643503bdfe1994896a03be3b4b21e0e/detection Dec 08 07:39:11 Hm .. so I guess none of those things actually try to run it. Dec 08 07:40:11 stilmight be also it only checks for domain karma Dec 08 07:40:18 (that program is something I wrote ( https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/959967 ), which is completely harmless, but does involve intercepting all key presses) Dec 08 07:41:29 also remember that av has settable heuristics. and yeah, best would be to just provide what program can do Dec 08 07:41:36 ie. analyze functions used Dec 08 07:41:44 and report that instead Dec 08 07:42:40 but then again, you can obfuscate program with compression, internal encryption etc Dec 08 07:45:11 Oh, if I go into the "Downloaded file" thing, it shows 4 things with exclamation marks next to them. Dec 08 07:46:29 hmmm Dec 08 07:48:10 https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/6169809e4909da9938cca76cf2de9fcf9b834ecff069ac9efb862d8b2b7870d7/detection Dec 08 07:48:12 lol Dec 08 07:48:53 I don't think pitting sourcecode against virustotal's url scanner means anything Dec 08 07:49:28 I have a feeling its intended purpose is site-scanning Dec 08 07:49:45 not convenient input-by-url Dec 08 07:50:26 it might be some string from heuristics, hehe Dec 08 07:50:34 that triggers some viree Dec 08 07:50:43 kinda similar to startkeylogger Dec 08 07:50:44 ;) Dec 08 07:51:08 it was fun few years ago when saying that on irc resulted in plenty of people getting disconnected by norton ;) Dec 08 07:54:04 I am amused by this scenario Dec 08 08:06:01 * xCA7BABE5 goes around spamming EICAR string on IRC Dec 08 08:06:54 Probably get my ass banned :P Dec 08 08:13:32 https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/9ce06e3557a0785a6d49f56069a3c7416f5a0a1b5efd569183bf7a80add45fcd/detection Dec 08 08:15:51 that's specific string unrelated to software Dec 08 09:46:48 hm, time to vote, or so it seems Dec 08 11:56:10 yes, it is :-) Dec 08 11:58:37 ubt at 23:59:59 UTC Dec 08 14:34:34 hola from Madrid Dec 08 14:40:44 ok so there is a char limit :( Dec 08 14:43:09 hola doc Dec 08 15:01:18 s/ubt/but/ Dec 08 15:01:50 s/but/butt Dec 08 22:22:12 Annoyed. Modest says "Message not available on server". Why? Dec 08 22:23:23 already deleted ? Dec 08 22:23:38 Also, it says "Last updated 05/12/2017", even though it does have messages newer than that in Inbox. Dec 08 22:23:52 KotCzarny : No, for every message. Dec 08 22:24:00 imap/pop3 ? Dec 08 22:24:18 Imap, I think... Dec 08 22:24:34 also, some spam fake dates, so they would always show on top Dec 08 22:24:48 No, not spam. Dec 08 22:25:24 And yes, these messages are open-able in web browser Dec 08 22:25:29 i don't know about modest innards though, did you try rebooting? Dec 08 22:26:09 Will try it, today or tomorrow, as battery discharges. Dec 08 22:41:27 vajb: i've found in my old scripts another way to use js0 as a kb input: kbstick **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 09 03:00:00 2017