**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 18 03:00:02 2017 Dec 18 08:42:21 hmm, I was expecting that, three hours before it happened. Shame infobot isn't clever enough to +q "people" that highlight it over and over. Dec 18 08:43:02 ~botsnack Dec 18 08:43:02 sixwheeledbeast: :) Dec 18 10:21:18 hmm, this is strange Dec 18 10:21:48 trying a reflash, detects and 'boots it into flash mode'.. once that's triggered, it doesn't register anything else via USB (and thus the flasher hangs) Dec 18 10:23:40 ahh, was trying for emmc & had to flash combined first Dec 18 11:44:52 cssu is now on; if i try a dist-upgrade, it still tries to uninstall everything Dec 18 11:45:09 otherwise, for the time being, The following packages have been kept back: Dec 18 11:45:09 libgcc1 libsdl-mixer1.2 libstdc++6 Dec 18 11:46:02 procedure was loading on RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM, updating the repo locations to the mirror, doing an update & upgrade, then loading cssu Dec 18 12:45:56 You shouldn't use apt in maemo. especially not dist-upgrade Dec 18 12:46:10 ~ham Dec 18 12:46:10 somebody said ham was Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham Dec 18 12:48:34 ~speedyham Dec 18 12:48:34 i guess speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU. Dec 18 12:48:56 so cssu-stable includes it by default? Dec 18 12:51:48 testing does Dec 18 12:52:07 hmmm.. can i change from one to the other without reflashing? Dec 18 12:52:11 I believe some fixes are in stable but not all Dec 18 12:52:34 You can go to testing but not back again without reflashing Dec 18 12:52:44 sweet Dec 18 12:52:54 also if your starting fresh check out bm Dec 18 12:52:57 ~bm Dec 18 12:52:57 from memory, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install Dec 18 12:55:08 ahh, looks like i had installed testing to boot Dec 18 12:56:15 ~getversion Dec 18 12:56:16 i guess getversion is input the following in a terminal: osso-product-info | grep OSSO_VERSION | cut -d "'" -f 2; dpkg-query -W -f='${Version} ' mp-fremantle-community-pr; uname -r Dec 18 12:57:22 RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0 Dec 18 12:57:22 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12 2.6.28.10-power53 Dec 18 13:06:45 PR.1.3.1, CSSU Testing and KP. Simples Dec 18 13:06:58 yeah, should be the latest Dec 18 13:07:28 so you have ~speedyham Dec 18 13:07:36 \o/ Dec 18 13:39:59 hey guys, I've always been wondering Dec 18 13:40:06 a linux question Dec 18 13:40:11 maemo unrelated Dec 18 13:40:40 say I do monthly backups of multi-partition disk Dec 18 13:40:56 via fancy script and good ol 'dd' Dec 18 13:42:16 how would I safely put it back without upsetting the other partitions? Dec 18 13:42:27 I think of two scenarios Dec 18 13:42:42 1. overwriting an existing partition Dec 18 13:42:53 2. writing to unpartitioned space Dec 18 13:45:58 by backing up each partition individually and restoring it as such as well? Dec 18 13:46:36 well, they are individually backed up Dec 18 13:47:10 dd if=/dev/sda1 of=backup.lol && dd if=backup.lol of=/dev/sda1 sort of thing Dec 18 13:47:35 varu: maemo isnt debian, dont try apt magic Dec 18 13:47:45 especially if you have weird repos on Dec 18 13:47:59 noted, i've reached stability now Dec 18 13:48:23 oscp installed, all the FM transmitter stuff (76-107.9 in .1 increments, increased txpower) Dec 18 13:48:32 now just syncing & playlists and i should be good Dec 18 13:48:53 I figure ways to break things all the time! Dec 18 13:49:18 breaking things is useful when you want to reach some otherwise unreachable result Dec 18 13:49:33 otherwise it's better not to complicate one's life more than necessary Dec 18 14:00:33 varu: in oscp you can have 10 shortcuts for files/dirs/playlists reachable via 0-9 Dec 18 14:00:51 and lots of other functionality, just ask Dec 18 17:27:18 mmm, varu, what is the FM transmitter stuff .. package name. i know it exists, but have never used it before. however i have this car radio from Japan, and it means i could get perfect transmission if i transmit at <88MHz Dec 18 17:27:37 my area uses 88-108 Dec 18 17:27:54 it's not legal if your country has that freq for other purposes Dec 18 17:28:27 you're right .. but mine doesnn't use the range :) Dec 18 17:28:40 and you still can get perfect transmission in 88-108 because it's fm not am Dec 18 17:29:37 have you used the FM transmitter in a moving car? Dec 18 17:29:41 yes Dec 18 17:30:07 trick is to put the n900 where it can propagate signal to car's antenna Dec 18 17:30:33 in many places, i find i have to occassionally change the freq as a 'free' freq in one place may not be free in another Dec 18 17:30:43 ahm, that problem Dec 18 17:30:58 i've found 107.9 to be unused almost everywhere Dec 18 17:31:35 here there's a station at that frequency :) Dec 18 17:31:40 hehe Dec 18 17:31:51 pirate station? Dec 18 17:32:32 it looks like they chose the extremes so that it could be easy for people to find it.just swing the dial to either end, voiala! Dec 18 17:32:38 typo Dec 18 17:33:52 anyway, this car radio uses the japan range and of course, does not pickup most of the stations here except 1 or 2 Dec 18 17:34:11 over here 107.9 is used a lot for local community radios but it depends on the area. the best place is between two of these "lower distance" services. Dec 18 17:34:25 sicelo, have you tried to use command line to set <88 ? Dec 18 17:34:44 not since i've had this car. will test. Dec 18 17:35:01 so it's not a matter of 'enabling' something then? Dec 18 17:35:20 dont know, migth be hardcoded limit in the exe Dec 18 17:35:39 .exe :p Dec 18 17:35:49 lol Dec 18 17:36:01 exe being short for executable, dont go anal :P Dec 18 17:36:22 so yes, it cannot be set to 80MHz for example. just tried Dec 18 17:36:29 the elf is hardheaded! Dec 18 17:36:33 88100 is the limit in fmtx_client Dec 18 17:37:02 you need fmtx-faker & the fmtxd from the fm transmitter page on the forums Dec 18 17:37:16 thanks varu Dec 18 17:37:17 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=585212&postcount=34 Dec 18 17:37:25 you rename your existing fmtxd to fmtxd-old or whatever after you killall fmtxd Dec 18 17:37:30 then swap it in (/usr/sbin) Dec 18 17:37:36 then "viola" Dec 18 17:37:46 . works fine. no hidden gotchas? Dec 18 17:37:50 nope Dec 18 17:37:56 txpwr is 120 too Dec 18 17:38:32 you'll also want the fm rds thing so you can see the tracks you're playing on your radio screen Dec 18 17:38:38 it's in extras-devel Dec 18 17:38:53 varu: does it support anything more than few letters? ie full rds? Dec 18 17:39:18 it scrolls artist & title (customizable) Dec 18 17:39:31 ahm, so kludge, oh well Dec 18 17:39:33 but if you mean type messages & whatever else is in the RDS standard... probably not Dec 18 17:39:54 won't be long until things go the way of norway anyway and it'll all be moot Dec 18 17:40:07 sicelo, can you try: /usr/share/lfocus/v4l2-ctl -d /dev/radio0 -f 80.0 etc? Dec 18 17:40:32 complete with 2-3-second delay in changing channels and complete dropoffs instead of 'graceful' degradation Dec 18 17:40:41 sometimes analog is better. Dec 18 17:41:08 KotCzarny: i don't have lfocus Dec 18 17:41:17 see the post i've pasted Dec 18 17:42:24 I thought FM Boost thing was depreciated by some update ages ago Dec 18 17:42:40 basically is, built into the fmtxd available on the forum Dec 18 17:43:11 no something like cssu or kp, IIRC Dec 18 17:43:24 ahh, that might play a role. i had both already installed Dec 18 17:43:36 then just replaced fmtxd and that was that Dec 18 17:43:46 some suggest 87.5 as being best for 'nothing transmits there' Dec 18 17:43:46 (oh and fmtx-faker to get 76-107.9 in .1 increments) Dec 18 17:43:47 Was a long while ago I remember something like that. Dec 18 17:44:16 sixwheeledbeast: i have that recollection too Dec 18 17:47:32 just checked, yes power level is set to 120 already (due to some CSSU tweaks) Dec 18 17:48:47 KotCzarny: i don't understand the point of that post .. he's setting 87.5, which the default configuration already supports :-/ Dec 18 17:49:11 18:27 #maemo sicelo > my area uses 88-108 Dec 18 17:49:14 see? Dec 18 17:50:07 it's just an example that it can be solution without faking anything Dec 18 17:50:14 heh. you aren'tgetting one point - i have a radio that supports 77-90 (or wherever the Japan band stops) Dec 18 17:50:30 i know, you say you want way below 88 Dec 18 17:50:41 yes, so i never get interference Dec 18 17:50:52 but there is a chance that setting to 87.5 might be enough to get reception without breaking the law Dec 18 17:53:34 & watch out for those pesky compliance enforcement vans if you do ;) Dec 18 17:53:59 :-) Dec 18 17:54:34 76-88 is pretty far off from any ham bands so you won't make them mad.. unless the N900's transmitter goes 'ham' on the harmonics at out-of-spec freqs (not sure if it was designed to spit out 76-88) Dec 18 17:55:29 here those laws exists, but there are no means to enforce them. heck we even do not have fixed speed cameras on our roads! the only time you will be caught speeding is if there are police on the road (not that i speed) Dec 18 17:55:43 :) Dec 18 17:56:16 heh, up here there was a kid blasting an illegal FM transmitter for i think over a month Dec 18 17:56:28 completely drowned out a legit station Dec 18 17:56:30 played good music too Dec 18 17:56:45 i think you could get away with that here easily Dec 18 17:56:47 but that's how long it took'em to shut him down Dec 18 17:57:02 i think you and your puny-milliwatt n900 will be just fine Dec 18 17:57:13 you practically have to glue the thing to the radio to get reasonable quality anyway Dec 18 17:57:16 ho hum, i suspect if he chose some free band it might took longer Dec 18 17:57:42 unless his setup was so noisy it got over everything Dec 18 18:18:28 fyi, KotCzarny, the method in your link works for up to 87.5, which helps a bit. pity you can only run it while the fm_tx is active, and it resets each time. useful nonetheless Dec 18 18:41:17 i used fmtxd from post #1 in https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60567 + fmtx-faker Dec 18 20:46:25 cleanup Dec 18 20:46:31 bleh **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 19 03:00:01 2017